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Major League Baseball was investigating the Houston Astros for illegally stealing signs during games. Jeff Luhnow, the general manager, and AJ Hinch, the manager, were just suspended for one year. After the announcement about the suspensions was made, the Astros owner fired both of them.

The Red Sox are also being investigated for stealing signs. I wonder if Alex Cora and whoever their general manager is might be next?
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Scuttlebutt making the rounds.....sounds like indeed Cora is gonna get hammered too.
This morning, my girlfriend heard about the "stealing of signs" controversy on the news.
She thought Astros were stealing actual display signs of other teams.. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Cora did get the heave-ho.
Alex Cora, who in 2018 led the Boston Red Sox to a World Series championship and on Monday was found by Major League Baseball to have played an integral part in the Houston Astros sign-stealing scandal as their bench coach, on Tuesday was let go by the Red Sox.

The team announced the parting as a mutual agreement.  Cora was under contract through 2021.

“We agreed today that parting ways was the best thing for the organization,” Cora said in a statement.  “I do not want to be a distraction to the Red Sox as they move forward.”

The club said, “This is a sad day for us.  Alex is a special person and a beloved member of the Red Sox.  We are grateful for his impact on our franchise.  We will miss his passion, his energy and his significant contributions to the communities of New England and Puerto Rico.”

The decision comes as MLB initiates an investigation into alleged illegal sign-stealing by the Red Sox during the 2018 season, under Cora’s watch.  Any discipline would amount to a second strike against the Red Sox, who in 2017 were fined for stealing signs by using an Apple Watch.  Commissioner Rob Manfred warned teams then that further technology-driven incidents would bring severe penalties.
Let's see — teams are already using videos and computer programming for frame-by-frame analysis of these videos to correct flaws in batting or pitching (or to detect 'tells' in opposing pitchers).  And literally every ballgame that is televised today has a camera out in straight-away center field focused in on the batter (and catcher), so the signs the catcher passes between himself and the pitcher are already out there in the open for anyone with a TV set to see them.  Sorry, commissioner, but the technological genie is already out of the bottle, and it ain't gonna be easy to put him back.
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I wonder if Carlos Beltran will be the next one to be fired? The Mets hired him as their manager in November. He played for the Astros in 2017 and is the only player mentioned in the MLB report about the cheating. That isn't a good look, especially for a guy with no previous managerial experience. It's not like they hired someone with a track record of winning.
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LIPH wrote:
January 13, 2020 3:46 pm
The Red Sox are also being investigated for stealing signs. I wonder if Alex Cora and whoever their general manager is might be next?
I sure hope the 2018 allegations do not turn out to be true (but expecting the worst)....it would be a shame to see such a magical season (where Buffett playing at Fenway helped us win the WS) forever have an asterisk next to it because of something like this. It would be so disappointing.

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MLB did state that they won't be punishing Carlos Beltran, so he is most likely safe.

However, the Red Sox did fire their GM earlier in the off-season. I wonder if the owners had some intel on this and wanted to try and keep it on the down low
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Beltran is out as Mets manager.
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Looking back on and listening to the show from 8/9/2018 will never feel quite the same again now that we can be almost certain that so many of those grand slams and clutch hits (or at least the ones in regular season home games) happened not because of a combination of real skill and good fortune, but because they knew or at least had a very good idea of what pitch was coming in those situations (and received that information during the game itself, not in between games). It all seemed too good to be true, and now we just about know that it was.

Even though I don't really like the Houston Astros, I was also rooting for them in the 2017 WS because and only because of what the city went through that year during the aftermath of Hurricane Harvey- and now we officially know their whole story is tainted as well. It is all such a shame.

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Congratulations to Derek Jeter and Larry Walker, the 2 newest members of the Hall of Fame. Jeter missed being voted in unanimously by 1 vote. Walker is the second Canadian player voted in, after Ferguson Jenkins.
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LIPH wrote:
January 21, 2020 6:29 pm
Congratulations to Derek Jeter and Larry Walker, the 2 newest members of the Hall of Fame. Jeter missed being voted in unanimously by 1 vote. Walker is the second Canadian player voted in, after Ferguson Jenkins.
Please explain....ANYONE......Please???
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LIPH wrote:
January 21, 2020 6:29 pm
Congratulations to Derek Jeter and Larry Walker, the 2 newest members of the Hall of Fame. Jeter missed being voted in unanimously by 1 vote. Walker is the second Canadian player voted in, after Ferguson Jenkins.
And Barry Bonds & Roger Clemens once again come up short & pay for their scandalous cheating ways.
Oh the horror........... :wink:
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I'm beside myself with happiness for Larry Walker!!! :) I'm so pleased he's going to be inducted as a Rockies player (he played with the Expos and Cardinals, and is Canadian). :D :D

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Dr.Corona wrote:
January 21, 2020 8:44 pm
LIPH wrote:
January 21, 2020 6:29 pm
Congratulations to Derek Jeter and Larry Walker, the 2 newest members of the Hall of Fame. Jeter missed being voted in unanimously by 1 vote. Walker is the second Canadian player voted in, after Ferguson Jenkins.
Please explain....ANYONE......Please???
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Three people didn't vote for Kid Griffey and 23 didn't vote Willie Mays... 28 didn't vote for Joe DiMaggio and 43 idiots didn't vote for Mickey Mantle! They should review the votes every year and pull the voting rights of some of those fools.
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