How would You be affected by a Goverment Shutdown?
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Re: How would You be affected by a Goverment Shutdown?
General Electric essentially pays NO taxes and yet we need to take food out of poor childrens mouths (cut WIC) and cut heating assistance to little old ladies in cold climates to save money. Years of tax breaks to big corporations have resulted in nothing but bigger bonus checks for the CEO's - not innovation, not job creation. But until the influence of lobbyists and corporate MONEY is rendered illegal, things will never be any different.
I really think it's time that those of us in the "Woodstock" generation, pull out the hippie garb and start making noise again. I agree that we need to get our finances under control but to do it on the backs of the poorest among us while the rich just keep getting break after break is ridiculous and immoral.
I don't know how any of them sleep at night.
I really think it's time that those of us in the "Woodstock" generation, pull out the hippie garb and start making noise again. I agree that we need to get our finances under control but to do it on the backs of the poorest among us while the rich just keep getting break after break is ridiculous and immoral.
I don't know how any of them sleep at night.
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Re: How would You be affected by a Goverment Shutdown?
I hate all of this..
I am in the same boat with Jen, work now get paid later..
Pam, Cuts to WIC and All other public health Items are frightening!!!
I know infrastructure as been cut to the bone as well.
I just do not know how we can have troops all over the world be fighting in 3 wars
and keep all the plates spinning.
Atleast in previous wars we had americans making the munitions, now alot are made overseas on contracts.I am very concerned about the legacy of debt we are leaving behind, but have no idea on how to cut. Personally I seem to be paying more taxes, dealt with inflation but made less due to furlough and pay freezes.
I am in the same boat with Jen, work now get paid later..
Pam, Cuts to WIC and All other public health Items are frightening!!!
I know infrastructure as been cut to the bone as well.
I just do not know how we can have troops all over the world be fighting in 3 wars
and keep all the plates spinning.
Atleast in previous wars we had americans making the munitions, now alot are made overseas on contracts.I am very concerned about the legacy of debt we are leaving behind, but have no idea on how to cut. Personally I seem to be paying more taxes, dealt with inflation but made less due to furlough and pay freezes.
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Re: How would You be affected by a Goverment Shutdown?
yep...up is down and down is up
my 18 year old son making just above minimum wage as a lifeguard paid more in taxes last year than General Electric! I guess he should be consulting with Immelt to learn how to get a bunch of BS government contracts, take Billions in taxpayer funded bailout money, export American jobs overseas - AND still manage to pay ZERO in corporate income taxes and the kicker...get a gig advising obama on job creation (of all things)
Oh and let's all give a big one finger salute to the TransOcean execs who just gave each other big bonuses for their terrific safety record last year thanks so much guys, you're the best...
my 18 year old son making just above minimum wage as a lifeguard paid more in taxes last year than General Electric! I guess he should be consulting with Immelt to learn how to get a bunch of BS government contracts, take Billions in taxpayer funded bailout money, export American jobs overseas - AND still manage to pay ZERO in corporate income taxes and the kicker...get a gig advising obama on job creation (of all things)
Oh and let's all give a big one finger salute to the TransOcean execs who just gave each other big bonuses for their terrific safety record last year thanks so much guys, you're the best...
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Re: How would You be affected by a Goverment Shutdown?
I want to know how all the people who aren't Buffett fans deal with all of this. At least we have this diversion!
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Re: How would You be affected by a Goverment Shutdown?
I would be saddened by a government shutdown, because it would mean that people are so jacked up on their own particular agendas that they can no longer work together for the sake of *all* the people.
But financially or in terms of my daily life? Nope. Not for a while.
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Re: How would You be affected by a Goverment Shutdown?
My wife works for the IRS so we would be affected. But on the bright side my mom has an RV and a trailer camper on her property.
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Re: How would You be affected by a Goverment Shutdown?
TropicalTroubador wrote:I would be saddened by a government shutdown, because it would mean that people are so jacked up on their own particular agendas that they can no longer work together for the sake of *all* the people.
But financially or in terms of my daily life? Nope. Not for a while.
That's pretty much it in a nutshell, no one cares about the country, just their own personal vendettas and agendas and keeping their wealthy backers happy.
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Re: How would You be affected by a Goverment Shutdown?
Count me inScarletB wrote:General Electric essentially pays NO taxes and yet we need to take food out of poor childrens mouths (cut WIC) and cut heating assistance to little old ladies in cold climates to save money. Years of tax breaks to big corporations have resulted in nothing but bigger bonus checks for the CEO's - not innovation, not job creation. But until the influence of lobbyists and corporate MONEY is rendered illegal, things will never be any different.
I really think it's time that those of us in the "Woodstock" generation, pull out the hippie garb and start making noise again. I agree that we need to get our finances under control but to do it on the backs of the poorest among us while the rich just keep getting break after break is ridiculous and immoral.
I don't know how any of them sleep at night.
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Re: How would You be affected by a Goverment Shutdown?
Amen! The rich DO keep getting richer and most of the people in this country either don't get it or just don't care. But, at some point, everyone will care.ScarletB wrote:TropicalTroubador wrote:I would be saddened by a government shutdown, because it would mean that people are so jacked up on their own particular agendas that they can no longer work together for the sake of *all* the people.
But financially or in terms of my daily life? Nope. Not for a while.
That's pretty much it in a nutshell, no one cares about the country, just their own personal vendettas and agendas and keeping their wealthy backers happy.
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Re: How would You be affected by a Goverment Shutdown?
Um, not all of us have a diversion.... Furlough = No money for Buffett......ScarletB wrote:I want to know how all the people who aren't Buffett fans deal with all of this. At least we have this diversion!
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Re: How would You be affected by a Goverment Shutdown?
SchoolGirlHeart wrote:Um, not all of us have a diversion.... Furlough = No money for Buffett......ScarletB wrote:I want to know how all the people who aren't Buffett fans deal with all of this. At least we have this diversion!
Actually I even consider posting and reading here to be a worthy diversion from the insanity.
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True dat!ScarletB wrote:Actually I even consider posting and reading here to be a worthy diversion from the insanity.SchoolGirlHeart wrote:Um, not all of us have a diversion.... Furlough = No money for Buffett......ScarletB wrote:I want to know how all the people who aren't Buffett fans deal with all of this. At least we have this diversion!
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Re: How would You be affected by a Goverment Shutdown?
The only effect on me is I will have to listen to the "class warfare" propaganda. Gobermint workers might see their paychecks delayed, but in past shutdowns, all workers have been paid their salaries during the shutdown period, so I expect all the SEIU workers to be taken care of. Its funny there hasn't been a federal budget for 18 months. It sure would have been nice if last years congress had passed a budget when it was their responsibility. All the crazy spending the democrats support could have passed easily when they had control of the house, senate and presidency.
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Re: How would You be affected by a Goverment Shutdown?
An awful lot of people, GOVERNMENT employees included, live pay check to pay check. A missed paycheck means a missed car payment or a missed mortgage/rent payment. Or worse.Skibo wrote:The only effect on me is I will have to listen to the "class warfare" propaganda. Gobermint workers might see their paychecks delayed, but in past shutdowns, all workers have been paid their salaries during the shutdown period, so I expect all the SEIU workers to be taken care of. Its funny there hasn't been a federal budget for 18 months. It sure would have been nice if last years congress had passed a budget when it was their responsibility. All the crazy spending the democrats support could have passed easily when they had control of the house, senate and presidency.
CONGRESS shouldn't get paid after September 30th unless a budget is in place.
People who think they're not affected might be surprised. Expect your tax rebate check on time? You probably won't get it if there's a shutdown unless you already have it; a shutdown includes the IRS.
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Re: How would You be affected by a Goverment Shutdown?
Rather that give the gobermint an interest free loan, my withholding is adjusted so I have to send a check on Apr. 15. I wonder if the people that accept and deposit my tax payment are considered "essential" or 'non-essential' ?SchoolGirlHeart wrote:Expect your tax rebate check on time? You probably won't get it if there's a shutdown unless you already have it; a shutdown includes the IRS.
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Re: How would You be affected by a Goverment Shutdown?
If someone is in the process of getting a mortgage loan of any kind, one of our requirements is a copy of their last tax transcript - it's slow enough as it is but with fewer people available to send out the transcripts it could get ugly when sales contracts and interest rate locks start to expire - again, will cost the average guy money and not affect the jerks who are causing the problem. Add to that I don't get PAID until a loan closes. So yeah, I'll be affected too.SchoolGirlHeart wrote:An awful lot of people, GOVERNMENT employees included, live pay check to pay check. A missed paycheck means a missed car payment or a missed mortgage/rent payment. Or worse.Skibo wrote:The only effect on me is I will have to listen to the "class warfare" propaganda. Gobermint workers might see their paychecks delayed, but in past shutdowns, all workers have been paid their salaries during the shutdown period, so I expect all the SEIU workers to be taken care of. Its funny there hasn't been a federal budget for 18 months. It sure would have been nice if last years congress had passed a budget when it was their responsibility. All the crazy spending the democrats support could have passed easily when they had control of the house, senate and presidency.
CONGRESS shouldn't get paid after September 30th unless a budget is in place.
People who think they're not affected might be surprised. Expect your tax rebate check on time? You probably won't get it if there's a shutdown unless you already have it; a shutdown includes the IRS.
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Re: How would You be affected by a Goverment Shutdown?
Considering that my entire agency, including the director, has been told we're 'non-essential' I doubt there will be anyone available to make tax transcripts available.ScarletB wrote:If someone is in the process of getting a mortgage loan of any kind, one of our requirements is a copy of their last tax transcript - it's slow enough as it is but with fewer people available to send out the transcripts it could get ugly when sales contracts and interest rate locks start to expire - again, will cost the average guy money and not affect the jerks who are causing the problem. Add to that I don't get PAID until a loan closes. So yeah, I'll be affected too.SchoolGirlHeart wrote:An awful lot of people, GOVERNMENT employees included, live pay check to pay check. A missed paycheck means a missed car payment or a missed mortgage/rent payment. Or worse.Skibo wrote:The only effect on me is I will have to listen to the "class warfare" propaganda. Gobermint workers might see their paychecks delayed, but in past shutdowns, all workers have been paid their salaries during the shutdown period, so I expect all the SEIU workers to be taken care of. Its funny there hasn't been a federal budget for 18 months. It sure would have been nice if last years congress had passed a budget when it was their responsibility. All the crazy spending the democrats support could have passed easily when they had control of the house, senate and presidency.
CONGRESS shouldn't get paid after September 30th unless a budget is in place.
People who think they're not affected might be surprised. Expect your tax rebate check on time? You probably won't get it if there's a shutdown unless you already have it; a shutdown includes the IRS.
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Re: How would You be affected by a Goverment Shutdown?
Yes, all that started happening after Obama took office.TommyBahama wrote:it has effected me already....in that , they have been off since Obama took office, and everyone is cutting back on spending and companies cutting employees..
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Unemployment was already at 9% or so before the end of W's term.spartan1979 wrote:Yes, all that started happening after Obama took office.TommyBahama wrote:it has effected me already....in that , they have been off since Obama took office, and everyone is cutting back on spending and companies cutting employees..
I'm always amazed that the same people in Washington who are screaming about rampant spending are the same people who voted for wars that were fought with 1. Bad intelligence - there were no WMD 2. No exit strategy and 3. Absolutely no idea how to fund them. But lets make cuts in services that are vital to a lot of elderly and poor to plug the gap that is in a fairly great measure due to these wars. D*mn those little old ladies who need heat in the winter anyway.
I can't believe what I read in the news, reminds me of the exchange below. I don't see how you can avoid calling it class warfare when GE pays no taxes and yet the kinds of cuts are being considered that will hugely impact the lives of many who have little. I really wish this was being melodramatic but every time I read another quote from some high ranking DC crank this is really what it seems to be coming to.
Ebenezer: Are there no prisons?
First Collector: Plenty of prisons.
Ebenezer: And the union workhouses - are they still in operation?
First Collector: They are. I wish I could say they were not.
Ebenezer: Oh, from what you said at first I was afraid that something had happened to stop them in their useful course. I'm very glad to hear it.
First Collector: I don't think you quite understand us, sir. A few of us are endeavoring to buy the poor some meat and drink, and means of warmth.
Ebenezer: Why?
First Collector: Because it is at Christmastime that want is most keenly felt, and abundance rejoices. Now what can I put you down for?
Ebenezer: Huh! Nothing!
Second Collector: You wish to be anonymous?
Ebenezer: [firmly, but calmly] I wish to be left alone. Since you ask me what I wish sir, that is my answer. I help to support the establishments I have named; those who are badly off must go there.
First Collector: Many can't go there.
Second Collector: And some would rather die.
I believe after this Scrooge said something like they best hurry up and die then and decrease the surplus population.
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Re: How would You be affected by a Goverment Shutdown?
No it wasn't. When the woefully misnamed "stimulus bill" was passed in February, 2009, after Obama took office, the big O said we had to pass it because it was the only way to keep the unemployment rate below 8%. Didn't quite work out the way he planned.ScarletB wrote:Unemployment was already at 9% or so before the end of W's term.spartan1979 wrote:Yes, all that started happening after Obama took office.TommyBahama wrote:it has effected me already....in that , they have been off since Obama took office, and everyone is cutting back on spending and companies cutting employees..
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