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Post by msu#1 »

tryin' to reason wrote:
Tiki Bar wrote:
tryin' to reason wrote:
Tiki Bar wrote:hmmmm... is Jimmy jumping the shark?

Teaming up with Chesney... and a video with SI swimsuit models?
Careful!!
"They" will tell you you're in your "denial" phase of the phan life cycle... :roll:

:lol: 8) :pirate:
:wink: :lol: :wench:

It's not necessarily my opinion - merely asking the question!

I'm still in the Jimmy is a (tiki) God phase, and support all of his decisions, and trust he is doing what is best - for him, and for us!

I do anticipate the combination to lead to mega-airlpay of the video, and mega-airplay of the song, and mega buzz among all media outlets! I firmly believe Jimmy boarded a rocket ship with "Five O'Clock Somewhere", and his nationwide mainstream popularity is about to blast off!
If he starts jumping on the top of his limo and dancing for the video camera, I'm bailing...

:lol: :lol: 8) 8) :pirate: :pirate:
lmao!!!!!! :lol:

but I'll follow Jimmy till the end, sellout or not, (He's not selling out) and Kenny is cool!!!!!!!!!!! Dont be haters
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Post by ph4ever »

msu#1 wrote:
tryin' to reason wrote:
Tiki Bar wrote:
tryin' to reason wrote:
Tiki Bar wrote:hmmmm... is Jimmy jumping the shark?

Teaming up with Chesney... and a video with SI swimsuit models?
Careful!!
"They" will tell you you're in your "denial" phase of the phan life cycle... :roll:

:lol: 8) :pirate:
:wink: :lol: :wench:

It's not necessarily my opinion - merely asking the question!

I'm still in the Jimmy is a (tiki) God phase, and support all of his decisions, and trust he is doing what is best - for him, and for us!

I do anticipate the combination to lead to mega-airlpay of the video, and mega-airplay of the song, and mega buzz among all media outlets! I firmly believe Jimmy boarded a rocket ship with "Five O'Clock Somewhere", and his nationwide mainstream popularity is about to blast off!
If he starts jumping on the top of his limo and dancing for the video camera, I'm bailing...

:lol: :lol: 8) 8) :pirate: :pirate:
lmao!!!!!! :lol:

but I'll follow Jimmy till the end, sellout or not, (He's not selling out) and Kenny is cool!!!!!!!!!!! Dont be haters

Kenny is a purdy boy!!!!!!!!!!!!! :wink:
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Kenny is a purdy boy!!!!!!!!!!!!! :wink:

Shhhhhh!!!!

Don't tell Michael...!!!!

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Post by puckhead »

Kenny Chesney isn't bad (if you can get past the cheeze), and I have grown to really enjoy county over the past 2 years. In fact, it was Buffett who turned me onto country since most of his music (esp the early stuff) does sound a lot ike county.

So this being said I am excited about the duets and the album. However, I am little anxious becuase I know that this additional exposure will make it harder to get tickets for his concerts. How can it not make it more difficult? As more people are expossed to his lifestyle and "see" on TV (through videos) how fun the shows are, it will attract some additional fans.

Last year was the 1st year I had to buy off of a scalper and I fear that it won't be the last.

But, I have come to accept that Jimmy will do anything for the extra publicity and cash, and if I want to go to the concerts I am going to have to find new and creative (and possibly more expensive) ways to secure tickets.
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jbfins wrote:SELL-OUT! Absolutely no other way to put it. He needs to advertise his music in SI issues? I always thought the last thing he wanted was a hit song. Seems to me like he's sure trying for one now. Of course I will buy the album, and the SI issue, but don't let that fool you into thinking I support this attempt at "making music for money."
I think its great he is doing this. Ask your self why wouldnt he? If I were him i would do the same thing! After all the years of good music im glad to see him getting back on the radio!!! :D :D :D :D :D :D
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springparrot wrote:Anyone know when SI will be released?
It hits the newsstands the week of February 16...but who's counting??!!

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This reply is sure to upset a few... but Jimmy "sold out" (whatever that means) a long time ago. Margaritaville Restaurants, Cheeseburger's in Paradise, $1,000,000 for him to play a private event, Krispy Kreme donuts, trademarks and copyrights on pratically everything. The fact that MTV doesn't show him, and radio hardly plays his stuff is not his doing - He doesn't program MTV or the radio stations - record companies push the albums, etc to the radio stations. Personally, I listen to him because his music makes me happy - regardless of whether or not he is a "sell-out" - Actually, I'm happy he's getting more notice in the mainstream - The world may become a more peaceful place if more people adopted the philosophy and lifestyle - it's not just music, it's a way of life.

Why is it when Jimmy sells the phrase "Changes in Latitudes" to a beer company it's ok - but when it's Sports Illustrated, he's a sellout? I think it's kinda cool that SI and their bikini goddesses are catching on to what's cool.
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:o

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THAT one's gonna take some digesting....
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Post by BinghamtonPH »

jbfins wrote: I always thought the last thing he wanted was a hit song. Seems to me like he's sure trying for one now.

I always thought a musician with any integrity made the music they wanted to make - regardless of if it is a hit or not.... Anyone can purposely write a song that's not a hit... I have absolutely no mucical talent and I guarantee, any song I write and perform will not be hit! It's easy! And I bet I could do it over and over again!
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tryin' to reason wrote::o

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THAT one's gonna take some digesting....
Tryin' to reason..... I guess I was just trying to say that if profiting from letting Corporate America use his image and music is what makes Jimmy a "Sell-out" - as that is the impression I get from a lot of pholks on this thread - then he did that a long time ago - Margaritaville Shrimp, Margaritaville Tequila, Margaritaville Margarita Mix, etc etc etc... I don't have a problem with it - I rather it is him than countless other people I can think of.

I spent $10.99 for a box of Margaritaville Shrimp just last night at Price Chopper - There was cheaper frozen shrimp in the store - so I guess I contributed to his selling out ..... :lol:
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BinghamtonPH wrote:
tryin' to reason wrote::o

:wink:

:pirate:

THAT one's gonna take some digesting....
Tryin' to reason..... I guess I was just trying to say that if profiting from letting Corporate America use his image and music is what makes Jimmy a "Sell-out" - as that is the impression I get from a lot of pholks on this thread - then he did that a long time ago - Margaritaville Shrimp, Margaritaville Tequila, Margaritaville Margarita Mix, etc etc etc... I don't have a problem with it - I rather it is him than countless other people I can think of.

I spent $10.99 for a box of Margaritaville Shrimp just last night at Price Chopper - There was cheaper frozen shrimp in the store - so I guess I contributed to his selling out ..... :lol:
I can see how some people would think he was selling out but i dont blame him for success (not saying that you do)
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Post by TropicalTroubador »

I was one of the privledged masses to see the new "License to Chill" video in San Jose on Tuesday night.

I read with interest the discussion as to whether Jimmy is "selling out" or not. My personal perception is that perhaps the consciousness of the American consumer may finally be converging on Parrothead madness, at least in some ways. And not a moment too soon! :pirate:

I was reading an article online this morning, probably on CNN.com, that postulated an increasing popularity for singer/songwriters with good, heartfelt lyrics over the likes of Britney and Christina. This is heartening to me, not just because I make music like that, but because it may lead the public to musicians I like, particularly musicians like Jimmy, who can help people feel good in times of insane cattle and Orange Alerts. And anything that helps people not be wound too tight is, IMO, a good thing.

As for the video itself, I have a confession to make: I made my first pilgrimage to Key West last Halloween for MOTM, and I've gotten "That Key West Habit." 8) I saw that video, and found the location footage of Key West to easily be as appealing to me as all of the lovely eye-candy in (sometimes barely in, pun intended) that skimpy swimwear.

I suppose that means I oughta buy SI too. :)

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Folks I hate to break it to you but Jimmy has been selling out for years. Anyone remember the Miller Beer Commerical (okay, so I'm dating myself) from the 70's? And how about the Corona sponsorship of his tours? And of course all the merchandise that is sold through the various Margaritavilles. Or the various foods and drinks that are marketed under Margaritaville's name? CS teeshirts, towels, etc. are all commerializing Jimmy Buffett's name and music.

Just because Jimmy is returning to country or is it that country is moving closer to Jimmy, doesn't mean he's selling out. And if you really want to get down to it I've been seeing Jimmy since he was playing small (500 seat venues) and I haven't complained too loudly about all you new comers making it tougher on me to get seats and having to pay more. Actually I have done my best to get more people to see Jimmy and to discover what I had found way back when so I don't worry that Jimmy's "going country" or "selling out". I worry that Jimmy will stop touring and making music.

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Post by Ceol na Mara »

I am so happy for Jimmy! "Selling out"? I don't think it's selling out to do what you like to do and get paid for doing it. If you compromise your values and/or your talent and only do what will make the big bucks, without really liking or believing in your end product - whether it's music or videos or donuts - that is selling out.

Jimmy has had a link to Krispy Kremes almost since childhood - why wouldn't he want a franchise? He certainly used to drink enough rum, tequila, etc. and eat enough shrimp - why shouldn't he want a brand of his own? I just wonder why he hasn't bought a vineyard and started producing wine, like Francis Ford Coppola, since he loves wine so much!

And videos - well, he certainly made a bunch of them! (Get "Margaritavision" if you never saw them.) I love them, but they just weren't very playable for MTV or I guess anywhere else at that time. But let's see the reasoning here - should Jimmy say, "Oh, my God! "It's Five O'Clock Somewhere" was a big hit! And SI loves "License to Chill"! Oh, God, I'd better not do anything like that again and MAKE MONEY!! What will my fans think!!"

This fan thinks it's great and more power to you, Jimmy. It's just as much of a sell out to do only what you think your fan base wants to hear (and wants to pay to hear). Do what makes you happy and if you make money doing it - if you make oodles and oodles of money doing it - that's fantastic!
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Post by msu#1 »

Does selling a tshirt with your name on it at your concerts mean your selling out? No so why should selling your own brand of alcohol or beach towels or cafe's?

To me selling out is when you change everything you believe in for one purpose to make money. Jimmy has plenty, this new more mainstream Jimmy is still the same music just package to more people. I think the best example of selling out is Stone temple Pilots, their first album sounded exactly like Pearl Jam, their next was a Nirvana rip off, that is cashing in, but you know I still think Stp was a good band.

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Post by Ceol na Mara »

Just a P.S. to my last post.
Jimmy's Margaritaville-type merchandise is being sold to fans. It's fun stuff. Again, if he makes money doing it, that's fine with me. Nobody is forcing me to buy it. I would hate to think we are living in a society where someone is criticized for being smart enough to supply a need/want.

And, Jimmy, if you're reading this, I'm still waiting for you to sell tropical design guitar straps!
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Ceol na Mara wrote:I am so happy for Jimmy! "Selling out"? I don't think it's selling out to do what you like to do and get paid for doing it. If you compromise your values and/or your talent and only do what will make the big bucks, without really liking or believing in your end product - whether it's music or videos or donuts - that is selling out.

Jimmy has had a link to Krispy Kremes almost since childhood - why wouldn't he want a franchise? He certainly used to drink enough rum, tequila, etc. and eat enough shrimp - why shouldn't he want a brand of his own? I just wonder why he hasn't bought a vineyard and started producing wine, like Francis Ford Coppola, since he loves wine so much!

And videos - well, he certainly made a bunch of them! (Get "Margaritavision" if you never saw them.) I love them, but they just weren't very playable for MTV or I guess anywhere else at that time. But let's see the reasoning here - should Jimmy say, "Oh, my God! "It's Five O'Clock Somewhere" was a big hit! And SI loves "License to Chill"! Oh, God, I'd better not do anything like that again and MAKE MONEY!! What will my fans think!!"

This fan thinks it's great and more power to you, Jimmy. It's just as much of a sell out to do only what you think your fan base wants to hear (and wants to pay to hear). Do what makes you happy and if you make money doing it - if you make oodles and oodles of money doing it - that's fantastic!
I totaly agree with you!!!!
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BinghamtonPH wrote:
tryin' to reason wrote::o

:wink:

:pirate:

THAT one's gonna take some digesting....
Tryin' to reason..... I guess I was just trying to say that if profiting from letting Corporate America use his image and music is what makes Jimmy a "Sell-out" - as that is the impression I get from a lot of pholks on this thread - then he did that a long time ago - Margaritaville Shrimp, Margaritaville Tequila, Margaritaville Margarita Mix, etc etc etc... I don't have a problem with it - I rather it is him than countless other people I can think of.

I spent $10.99 for a box of Margaritaville Shrimp just last night at Price Chopper - There was cheaper frozen shrimp in the store - so I guess I contributed to his selling out ..... :lol:
You misunderstood my response...

I share your concern wuth Jimmy's business ventures.
He certainly doesn't need to "invest" in all these passive ventures.
I'm concerned they distract him from making music and having fun!!

I was buying time to reflect on your post because the second part was nearly 180 from the first point at first glance, but certainly the stronger message.
Jimmy's music DOES make us all happy, so perhaps we don't need to agonize so much over his business ventures. However, I wish they were more geared toward his phans than tourist spots. Three MV's in Jamaica??!! H*ll, those folks have Red Stripe and jerk chicken...they don't need cheeseburgers!! He invests there because lots of tourists flow through and they're willing to drop big bucks on just about anything for a manufactured experience.

Also wonder why he "sells" his name for dollars to tequila, shrimp, corporate food chains and the like. He certainly didn't build factories to make the stuff, he just grabbed the chance for a quick buck. Sometimes the business practices run totally counter to the messages in the music. Which do I believe...?

Love Jimmy, love his music, love his phans...maybe that's all we need worry about.

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photogal wrote:Hello, my first time posting, I read you guys converstions all the time. I just thought I'd put my two cents in about this new album. Its strating to look like Jimmy might be ditching us for country folk. What one song charts the country and off he goes? Is it all about the money (I started to think that when the gross shrip came out)? I think I'm goin need to hear clips of this album before I buy it. I hate country, dont mean to panic.........but it's not looking good.
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Did anyone else notice that there is another CD by that name? Check out http://2350.org/pk136/
Just happened to find it when I did a search for the title.
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