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WHERE IS ABBA in the poll?

ok .. in their absence .. I have gone for The Beatles

(I think it has something to do with that they are from England and we still are attached to them by a flag and a Queen )

captainjoe wrote:
Very well said Jahfin! IMHP, the Beatles were overrated.

Can't see how anyone could say that, and I'm not even a Beatles fan. Don't even own one record, but I can't deny their influence.

captainjoe wrote:When the Beatles came out, "Rock and Roll" had been around for a while.

And... ??

No one has ever claimed that the Beatles sphere of influence was rock and roll. But the Beatles more or less defined modern songwriting and arrangement.

captainjoe wrote:You must be a big influence on music, if the music you helped create is still around 60 years later.

But Elvis didn't help CREATE rock and roll. He helped to popularize it. Significant? Yes. But more influential than folks who INNOVATED? No.

Jah, I hear you about the modern state of country music (and rock for that matter) but I'm not sure you can stick that all on Garth. Unfortunately someone is BUYING this stuff, which encourages labels to put out more.

That being said, Garth *DID* contribute a lot to music in terms of returning power to the artists and taking it from the labels. Garth called a lot of his own shots, wrote a lot of his material, and in many ways ran his own show. At that time in Nashville that was unheard of.

Admittedly that's more influencing the business dynamic (like Jimmy has) than it is a contribution to music as a whole.

The STONES have to fit in here somewhere.............as a youngster I opted for their style versus the beatles..........LOVE YOU LIVE and EXILE ON MAIN STREET..........might be two of the best albums by anyone...and I still enjoy Keith Richard.......guitar god.......anyway......later

I find something interesting here--all of us probably have friends who are puzzled by our obsession with Jimmy Buffett and his music. And yet when it comes to looking at the big picture, we seem to have a pretty clear understanding of where he fits into the bigger picture.

For me the answer here has to be the Beatles. The initial impact when they first emerged in undeniable, but you also need to consider how their music evolved, and how their music and their lives are markers serve as markers for the times. When I think of the 60s and what all went on, their music reflects that timeline. Elvis's influence on music cannot be questionned, but i do not see the same evolution with his career.

Key Lime Lee wrote:

captainjoe wrote:
Very well said Jahfin! IMHP, the Beatles were overrated.

Can't see how anyone could say that, and I'm not even a Beatles fan. Don't even own one record, but I can't deny their influence.

captainjoe wrote:When the Beatles came out, "Rock and Roll" had been around for a while.

And... ??

No one has ever claimed that the Beatles sphere of influence was rock and roll. But the Beatles more or less defined modern songwriting and arrangement.

captainjoe wrote:You must be a big influence on music, if the music you helped create is still around 60 years later.

But Elvis didn't help CREATE rock and roll. He helped to popularize it. Significant? Yes. But more influential than folks who INNOVATED? No.

You know, I thought that I wrote "IMHO", let me check, . . . I'll be damned, I did.

captainjoe wrote:
You know, I thought that I wrote "IMHO", let me check, . . . I'll be damned, I did.

Actually you wrote IMHP which I think means something entirely different...

how about the stones or the who?

all things considered the beatles were over and done with in 3 years.

Key Lime Lee wrote:Jimmy's influence may have yet to express itself... depending on the future Jimmy's legacy may be his ability to thrive outside of what is perceived as the traditional distribution channels.

Well said as always, Lee.

Having grown up in the era when Pat Boone had to cover and "white bread" an R & B song to get any of middle America to hear it, I have to say that Elvis was a tremendous influence on almost all genres of music. However, I cannot give him a break for his obsession with being a "Movie Star" even though at the time, music starts were second or third rate at best. Then his complete and utter sell-out to the Vegas/Glitter jump suit Elvis. His sphere of influence, while great, was short-lived (other than trailer parks)

Becoming a music fan around the time of the British Invasion and seeing first hand from my transistor radio what the Beatles did to the very core of the music that was available, there is no denying they were the longterm greater influence. Artists today, over 30 years after their break-up and even longer since their last public performance still list them as their greatest influence.

Whether it be with their own compositions or having the balls to cover artist from Buck Owens on up, everything they did was cutting edge at the time. When you go back and listen at what seems so innocent today, seems so "Pop" today, ok-maybe even seems a little lame today, you had to be there to know how different it was. Sitting in front of the Admiral b/w, I watching Ed Sullivan, I knew everything I had been listening to before was going to change, even at that young of an age. Knowing that I had to sneak the Beatles singles my sister and I bought into the house, because my Dad would have busted anything by "Those long haired sons of b*tches" made it exciting. My god, I never would have gotten a Stones record into my house prior to 1970. btw, I kept my Beatles singles inside of Hermans Hermits Greatest Hits (Mom and Dad didn't mind them)

Even though I also have an opinion on Garth, I have learned, anytime Jafin uses "not my cup of tea" its time to duck and cover. So, that is all I have to say about that

Milli Vinilli and Kriss Kross, with out these two acts, there would be no Beatles or Elvis Presley. (Please ignore the fact that these acts came after Presley and the Beatles.)

Cubbie Bear wrote:Even though I also have an opinion on Garth, I have learned, anytime Jafin uses "not my cup of tea" its time to duck and cover. So, that is all I have to say about that

There's no need to duck and cover, if people are fans of Garth Brooks that's all well and good, I'm just saying I'm not a fan. Waylon, Willie, Cash, Merle, Steve Earle, Emmylou, Gram Parsons and countless others, yes. Garth Brooks' music just does absolutely nothing for me.

Jahfin wrote:

Cubbie Bear wrote:Even though I also have an opinion on Garth, I have learned, anytime Jafin uses "not my cup of tea" its time to duck and cover. So, that is all I have to say about that

There's no need to duck and cover, if people are fans of Garth Brooks that's all well and good, I'm just saying I'm not a fan. Waylon, Willie, Cash, Merle, Steve Earle, Emmylou, Gram Parsons and countless others, yes. Garth Brooks' music just does absolutely nothing for me.

One of my favorite Western acts is Chris Ledoux. I have yet to see
Steve Earl whom I like but he blew off Boise twice since I have lived here
also Listen to Micheal Martin Murphy and but of course
Asleep At The Wheel all very talented acts also listen to
EARLY Toby Keith Victorias Secret is a precious song and also the first
Lonestar is as underrated as all their newer stuff is overrated.

Damn I was gonna ask if anyone but myself has ever wondered
what music would be like if Buddy Hollies Plane would have made it ,
is it just me???

Gotta agree with you on that, Ragtop... can only wonder what Buddy would have contributed if he had lived...

Buddy Holly may have only been around for a very short period of time but I thnk his music had a huge impact that is still being felt. Waylon himself pretty much went on to create a whole new genre of music that was definitely informed via Buddy's influence on him.