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I have a question,..we do not have guns in the house, but I want to get one for myself as I am alone most of the time here. My hubby is not so fond of the idea since we have a baby. What should I do. I mean I AM getting one to keep here, but I can't see the point of having it if it is locked up in the closet. Is there an alternative to doing that....gun lock??? Any suggestions?

Early childhood education. no really I had the gun rack and shell
drawer in my bedroom from like 6 on. the issue with
99% of child related shootings is Johnny is home without
Mom or Dad. therein lays the path to danger.

longlinergirl wrote:I have a question,..we do not have guns in the house, but I want to get one for myself as I am alone most of the time here. My hubby is not so fond of the idea since we have a baby. What should I do. I mean I AM getting one to keep here, but I can't see the point of having it if it is locked up in the closet. Is there an alternative to doing that....gun lock??? Any suggestions?

That is my very same question. I know I could figger the darn things out, but what use is it if the gun is in the closet, the ammo's in the basement and some dumba$$ is breaking into my house. I have 2 kids--a 7yr old and a 5 month old. I could talk myself blue in the face about gun-safety but accidents do happen. That would be my worst nightmare.

If you find an answer...let me know.

buffettbride wrote:

longlinergirl wrote:I have a question,..we do not have guns in the house, but I want to get one for myself as I am alone most of the time here. My hubby is not so fond of the idea since we have a baby. What should I do. I mean I AM getting one to keep here, but I can't see the point of having it if it is locked up in the closet. Is there an alternative to doing that....gun lock??? Any suggestions?

That is my very same question. I know I could figger the darn things out, but what use is it if the gun is in the closet, the ammo's in the basement and some dumba$$ is breaking into my house. I have 2 kids--a 7yr old and a 5 month old. I could talk myself blue in the face about gun-safety but accidents do happen. That would be my worst nightmare.

If you find an answer...let me know.

a gun safe similar to the ones on this web site: http://www.gunvault.com/ministandard.asp

Let's you get at the gun quickly, but keeps it locked up.

SchoolGirlHeart wrote: a gun safe similar to the ones on this web site: http://www.gunvault.com/ministandard.asp

Let's you get at the gun quickly, but keeps it locked up.

Thanks Jen. That's exactly the type of thing I was thinkin'.

Never even held a gun in my whole life....until my dad came to dinner a few years ago!

My dad lived in WA State and founded a company called MagSafe Ammo(he made buwwets! )

He once rode his motorcycle all the way across the country to see me. See, I had never met the guy, I was adopted when I was 16 days old and although I finally found him, we had never met. So he drove cross country to do just that, meet me!
We sit down to dinner and he takes some kind of handgun out of his pocket and slaps it down, right in the middle of the dinner table!
All our jaws hit the floor and he couldn't understand what the big deal was.
He was like "Wha? Well you don't expect me to eat with a gun in my front pocket, do you?"
Ummm....silly us, of course not!

We all had to hold it and touch it and he wanted to take my then 4 year old out in the backyard to shoot it. Until I told him that WE didn't live on 40 acres like he did, we live in suburbia and shooting guns here will land yer ass right in jail!

Yeah, he was that kind of guy, what a nut! No more wondering who's side I took after!

ragtopW wrote:my lil has a bear gun for bedside also a 10/22 with a 25 rd clip
with crosstop hollowpoints that'l get 'er done!

I WORRY ABOUT THE RIFLE ROUNDS GOING THROUGH WALLS AND HITTING SOMEBODY UNINTENDED

longlinergirl wrote:I have a question,..we do not have guns in the house, but I want to get one for myself as I am alone most of the time here. My hubby is not so fond of the idea since we have a baby. What should I do. I mean I AM getting one to keep here, but I can't see the point of having it if it is locked up in the closet. Is there an alternative to doing that....gun lock??? Any suggestions?

ALOT OF THE NEW HANDGUNS LIKE ANYTHING FROM SMITH&WESSON CANT FIRE WITH THE MAGAZINE REMOVED,EVEN WITH A ROUND CHAMBERED.SO GET ONE OF THOSE,CHAMBER A ROUND AND THEN REMOVE AND HIDE THE MAG.THEN IT DOESNT NEED A GUN SAFE OR LOCK TO BE SAFE.IF ANYTHING HAPPENS YOU JUST GET THE MAG,POP IT IN AND SQUEEZE THE TRIGGER

buffettbride wrote:

longlinergirl wrote:I have a question,..we do not have guns in the house, but I want to get one for myself as I am alone most of the time here. My hubby is not so fond of the idea since we have a baby. What should I do. I mean I AM getting one to keep here, but I can't see the point of having it if it is locked up in the closet. Is there an alternative to doing that....gun lock??? Any suggestions?

That is my very same question. I know I could figger the darn things out, but what use is it if the gun is in the closet, the ammo's in the basement and some dumba$$ is breaking into my house. I have 2 kids--a 7yr old and a 5 month old. I could talk myself blue in the face about gun-safety but accidents do happen. That would be my worst nightmare.

If you find an answer...let me know.

If you teach children to respect guns they will. If you let them run free and do not take responsibility as a parent you may end up as one of those parents where one sibling shot the other.

I said that to say this. There is not a perfect gun lock available. If you lock the trigger you may not get it unlocked when it's truly needed. I was around loaded guns in my parents house all my life. My sister and I survived just fine because we were taught they aren't toys.

Thanks guys (and gals) for all the thought! I am going to talk to a guy today about what gun I am getting! I like the idea of the gun that doesn't fire without the magazine...will have to check into those. I didn't get a chance to look at the gunvault website, but I will be checking into that as well.

Oh and NJPhin....was he hunting wabbits???

Well I just looked at he gunvault and that is pretty cool. I think the hubby will like that.

buffettbride wrote:

longlinergirl wrote:I have a question,..we do not have guns in the house, but I want to get one for myself as I am alone most of the time here. My hubby is not so fond of the idea since we have a baby. What should I do. I mean I AM getting one to keep here, but I can't see the point of having it if it is locked up in the closet. Is there an alternative to doing that....gun lock??? Any suggestions?

That is my very same question. I know I could figger the darn things out, but what use is it if the gun is in the closet, the ammo's in the basement and some dumba$$ is breaking into my house. I have 2 kids--a 7yr old and a 5 month old. I could talk myself blue in the face about gun-safety but accidents do happen. That would be my worst nightmare.

If you find an answer...let me know.

My experience:
I have 3 daughters. I have had firearms around them their whole life. (They are 19,17,17). I never ever had a problem with them regarding firearms because at a very early age, I taught them gun safety and let them handle them (properly). Thus, they had no reason to want to sneak a look at them because I would let them whenever they wanted under supervision. Now this may be slightly different with boys, I wouldn't know.

All of my firearms are under lock and key except for my S&W .357 and my home defense 20 gauge pump gun. When the kids were younger, I only had the pump gun out. I keep in in it's sheath on my bed post, loaded. Everyone in my house knows how chamber a shell and handle this weapon. It is my opinion that a 20 gauge riot gun (18 inch barrel, pistol grip) is the best home defense gun for your average person. All you have to do is chamber a shell (which that sound alone may send a home invader out the door), aim in the general direction and fire. The large pattern will make up for poor shooting and it will not go through walls and hurt those you are trying to protect or your neighbor. The 20 gauge is powerful enough to stop the intruder but is manageble for women and older children. Keeping it loaded means it can be retrieved quickly, pumped once and it's ready. No fumbling for keys or ammo when you may only have seconds. Loaded but with no shell in the chamber keeps little ones from being able to get the shotgun out and pulling the trigger. You have to be strong enough and know how to chamber the shell, take the safety off and then fire.

And btw, I am not a member of the NRA (for no particular reason) and am very pro gun. They do not go hand in hand. I think every home should have at least a home defense weapon but only if those who will be using it are trained and comfortable with it. If not, it becomes a liability.

Those with children should preach and practice gun safety but the bottom line is: You have to KNOW YOUR CHILD. If your child seems to be too interested in the gun and you fear he/she may try to handle it when your not looking, it's time to keep it or the ammo or both locked up.

JUST A SIDE NOTE,CHECK YOUR LOCAL LAWS BEFORE DECIDING TO LEAVE A GUN OUT FOR PERSONAL PROTECTION.HERE IN MA IT IS ILLEGAL FOR ANY GUN TO BE LEFT OUT IF NOT SECURED IN A SAFE OR HAVE A TRIGGER LOCK ON IT.A GUN HAS TO BE UNDER YOUR DIRECT CONTROL AT ALL TIMES.EVEN IN YOUR HOUSE OR CAR.
I'M NOT SAYING I DONT HAVE THEM OUT FOR PROTECTION,I JUST KNOW THE LAWS AND TRY TO AVOID JAIL TIME.

Thanks again!!! My son is only 16 months so he is safe for now I'll let you know what my decision is on which gun to get.

I have to say that the key to the gun safety / kids issue starts with early education. I grew up in a town where half the vehicles in the High School parking lot were pick-ups and most of them had a deer rifle in the back. Not to say it was a "country" or dare I say "redneck" town or school, it was actually a college town. No one would EVER have even thought of bringing one into school for ANY reason. We knew how to safely handle guns and respected what they were capable of; only used them for hunting and target shooting. My dad always had sporting firearms in the house and I wouldn't have touched them without him being there because I just knew that was the way it was. Unfortunately, you have a very few disfunctional people who do stupid things and those are the stories that get so much attention.

tommcat327 wrote:

ragtopW wrote:my lil has a bear gun for bedside also a 10/22 with a 25 rd clip
with crosstop hollowpoints that'l get 'er done!

I WORRY ABOUT THE RIFLE ROUNDS GOING THROUGH WALLS AND HITTING SOMEBODY UNINTENDED

Tomm when you cross top hollow point .22s they don't go through
even 2 layers of sheet rock they just hit mushroom and expand and stop
and lil sis lives in a plaster and lath building I'm not sure a .38 would make it through.

OK well I am wimping out on the big gun that I want and getting a .22, I am not sure which one yet..there are quite a few options...any ideas? I am however going to get the aforementioned gun vault...hubby loved that idea...well as much as he could given his feelings on guns in the house

ragtopW wrote:

tommcat327 wrote:

ragtopW wrote:my lil has a bear gun for bedside also a 10/22 with a 25 rd clip
with crosstop hollowpoints that'l get 'er done!

I WORRY ABOUT THE RIFLE ROUNDS GOING THROUGH WALLS AND HITTING SOMEBODY UNINTENDED

Tomm when you cross top hollow point .22s they don't go through
even 2 layers of sheet rock they just hit mushroom and expand and stop
and lil sis lives in a plaster and lath building I'm not sure a .38 would make it through.

i havent shot my .22 at sheetrock,i know the CCI hollowpoints rip right through plywood easily

Don't own any guns but I am a powerful speller I hear..............


Thanks Mac

I own a .40 S&W which I keep loaded with Hydrashoks for home protection. i do have 'keets, which means I must have it locked up. I can probably have it in battery in about a minute (conservative estimate figuring middle of the night dead asleep), so I hope the b@st@rd gives me enough time to get to it. Although this arrangement isn't as preferable to keeping a shotgun loaded and ready by my bedside, I prefer this to not having any weapons at all.

I have shot a variety of weapons including a .22, 9mm, .357 Mag, .40, 10mm, .44 Mag, .45, and a .475 Wildey.
Rifles include a .22, 4/10 gauge, 12 gauge, 30-30, .308, .223,
and a .460 Weatherby Mag.
The Wildey is the most powerful handgun I have ever shot, but I think that .50 would prolly put my hand to sleep.

Coconuts wrote:My grandfather was a butcher, and he had a rifle that he used every day. I do want that gun.

Butchers don't normally have to shoot their own cows, do they?