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Rock Royalty to Join Voices Against Bush With Fall Concerts

Posted: July 25, 2004 6:09 pm
by Jahfin
HE DEMOCRATIC NATIONAL CONVENTION
Rock Royalty to Join Voices Against Bush With Fall Concerts
Musicians will perform in swing states to try to affect election. Playing for a cause is a tradition, but injecting political views can be risky.

Born in the USA
(AP)
By Geoff Boucher, Times Staff Writer

Bruce Springsteen, Neil Young, R.E.M., Pearl Jam and a deep roster of other rock stars will unite for politically minded concerts this fall that will give voice to dissatisfaction with the Bush administration.

The all-star rock shows, which are expected to begin in October and target campaign swing states, are in the planning stage but were confirmed by half a dozen music industry sources who spoke on condition of anonymity.

Insiders disagree on the unifying rhythm of the celebrity coalition. Some say it is the promise of the John F. Kerry candidacy, but at least one emphasizes the fear of President Bush's reelection. "There is a range of feeling about Kerry," the source said, "but a uniform belief that Bush must go."

The tour turns up the volume of the rock scene's role in politics, but it is not the only example of an apparent surge of commentary among artists. Rockers seem virtually unanimous in their anti-Bush stance, just as country music has seen a wave of passionate patriotism and support for the president, exemplified by the songs of Toby Keith.

MTV has been showing a video by the British dance-pop outfit Faithless that features a teen shipped off to Iraq only to return home wounded and disillusioned. Representing a different generation, Tom Waits and John Fogerty have recorded songs about Iraq. For Waits, it's the first political song of his four-decade career; for Fogerty, it's a return to his Vietnam-era songs such as "Who'll Stop the Rain."

Elsewhere, rapper Sean "P. Diddy" Combs is steering a new voter registration drive, and the usually bratty punk-pop band Green Day has said its next album will be a political concept piece. Steve Earle has a new album laced with songs about Iraq and Bush and even a mocking valentine to national security advisor Condoleezza Rice. Blues player Keb Mo has an upcoming album of peace songs, including John Lennon's "Imagine" and Buffalo Springfield's "For What It's Worth."

Introducing political commentary into music is sometimes a risky prospect — even if it's just a passing reference.

Last weekend, Linda Ronstadt was booed in Las Vegas for praising a Bush nemesis, filmmaker Michael Moore, while Ozzy Osbourne relented to critics and removed concert imagery that showed Bush and Hitler together on an overhead screen.

The countercultural mind-set and recklessness once at the core of rock music now seem relegated to the distant past, Elton John told Interview magazine. He said that protest had often given way to strict careerism in this corporate age.

"There's an atmosphere of fear in America right now, and that is deadly," John said. "Everyone is too career-conscious. They're all too scared…. Things have changed."

Tom Morello, guitarist with Rage Against the Machine and once a staffer to the late California Democratic Sen. Alan Cranston, is a veteran of politics-meets-rock. "I'm not surprised you're seeing this music being made, and I'm not surprised it's connecting with an audience," he said. "It's not just people who write songs — carpenters, teachers, everyone is ready for a regime change."

Morello was cited by some sources as a probable participant in the concert series, but he declined to confirm plans for the shows.

No album or song is likely to capture as much media attention as the concerts involving Springsteen in swing states, which are expected to take place in arenas.

Organizers have been tight-lipped since discussions of the idea caught the ears of some of the stars in April. At the end of last week, the formal announcement was scheduled for Aug. 4 in New York.

Other artists expected to join the lineup include Earle, the Dave Matthews Band, the Dixie Chicks, Bright Eyes, Ani DiFranco, Death Cab for Cutie and International Noise Conspiracy. There also are reports that Bob Dylan and James Taylor may be part of the bill.

The shows reportedly will benefit several organizations, chief among them MoveOn.org, the advocacy group that champions a liberal agenda through Web-based grass-roots efforts.

All-star concerts to raise money for philanthropic or political causes have become a tradition. The template goes back to 1971 with George Harrison's Concert for Bangladesh and the no-nukes shows of 1980 that featured Springsteen and such artists as Taylor, Jackson Browne and Carly Simon.

Organizers have tried to keep the fall shows under wraps to spotlight the official announcement. Springsteen's manager, Jon Landau, declined to discuss the shows, and Young's manager, Elliot Roberts, did not return calls. When Bertis Downs, who manages R.E.M., was asked about the band's fundraising plans, he replied, "I can't talk about that."

R.E.M became one of the first bands to criticize the war in Iraq when it posted a song on its website in March 2003, the month of the invasion.

Others now joining the critical chorus include the Beastie Boys, a Perfect Circle and Jay Farrar, the alternative-country rocker who said Saturday that he resisted political messages in the past because the topic didn't fit his sensibilities.

But now, he said, he would feel derelict if he didn't speak up. "And there will be a lot more artists doing the same thing if Bush gets reelected."

Posted: July 25, 2004 7:54 pm
by Ilph
Why are celebrities and their political opinions so important? Do they get more votes than we do? I couldn't care less how Bruce Springsteen or Toby Keith vote. Shut up and play your music.

Posted: July 25, 2004 9:04 pm
by photogal
Its not that their opionions are improtant it just gets people thinking. People might not really listen to them but read about the hoopla and get interested. There are soooooo many people out there who dont pay atention I swear!! And I think attention needs to be drawn to how bad Bush is!! (sorry I cant spell :oops: )

Posted: July 25, 2004 9:06 pm
by photogal
Jahfin you rule with the articles!!

Posted: July 25, 2004 9:12 pm
by Ilph
photogal wrote:Its not that their opionions are improtant it just gets people thinking. People might not really listen to them but read about the hoopla and get interested. There are soooooo many people out there who dont pay atention I swear!! And I think attention needs to be drawn to how bad Bush is!! (sorry I cant spell :oops: )
It would be much easier to get people thinking by showing them facts in black and white instead of putting up with the rock star ego trip that you have to hear when people get up there and speak. Michael Moore, at the Oscars? C'mon, that's a little much.

Posted: July 25, 2004 10:33 pm
by ragtopW
Ilph wrote:Why are celebrities and their political opinions so important? Do they get more votes than we do? I couldn't care less how Bruce Springsteen or Toby Keith vote. Shut up and play your music.
Can we add talk show hosts to the list????????
I'm talking the radio know it alls

Posted: July 25, 2004 11:28 pm
by Lightning Bolt
Now wait a damn minute here!
I'm not going to any show that doesn't have Linda Ronstadt on the bill!! :wink:

Posted: July 26, 2004 6:44 am
by Ilph
ragtopW wrote:
Ilph wrote:Why are celebrities and their political opinions so important? Do they get more votes than we do? I couldn't care less how Bruce Springsteen or Toby Keith vote. Shut up and play your music.
Can we add talk show hosts to the list????????
I'm talking the radio know it alls
Feel free!!! Bill O'Reilly, Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Al Franken. All of 'em!

Posted: July 26, 2004 7:26 am
by nycparrothead
I think I've pretty much decided that I almost want to see Kerry beat Bush. Then when people see that Kerry is no better than Bush is, I can say, I told you so! :P

Posted: July 26, 2004 8:15 am
by RhumChum
Sounds like any monkey can do the job . . .

Monkey Boy for Prez!!

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Posted: July 26, 2004 9:22 am
by lovin_jimmy
Ilph wrote:Why are celebrities and their political opinions so important? Do they get more votes than we do? I couldn't care less how Bruce Springsteen or Toby Keith vote. Shut up and play your music.
well said. i prefer to form my own oppinions. would we listen to politicians if they told us what music to listen to?

Posted: July 26, 2004 11:00 am
by tommcat327
SO DOES "ROCK ROYALTY" MEAN "OLD PEOPLE WHOSE MUSIC SUCKS SO THEY'LL TALK ABOUT POLITICS TO GET MEDIA ATTENTION" ? :roll:

Posted: July 26, 2004 11:34 am
by Key Lime Lee
tommcat327 wrote:SO DOES "ROCK ROYALTY" MEAN "OLD PEOPLE WHOSE MUSIC SUCKS SO THEY'LL TALK ABOUT POLITICS TO GET MEDIA ATTENTION" ? :roll:
Apparently not, if they're talking about Springstee, REM, Pearl Jam and Neil Young...

But then none of them is NEW to politics.

Posted: July 26, 2004 11:37 am
by tommcat327
Key Lime Lee wrote:
tommcat327 wrote:SO DOES "ROCK ROYALTY" MEAN "OLD PEOPLE WHOSE MUSIC SUCKS SO THEY'LL TALK ABOUT POLITICS TO GET MEDIA ATTENTION" ? :roll:
Apparently not, if they're talking about Springstee, REM, Pearl Jam and Neil Young...

But then none of them is NEW to politics.
THOSE WERE THE EXACT "ARTISTS" I WAS REFERRING TO.

Posted: July 26, 2004 12:26 pm
by a1aara
Tommcat327,

They have to get the older artists. If they went for the newer pop and rock singers, no one would show up.

Posted: July 26, 2004 12:27 pm
by tommcat327
a1aara wrote:Tommcat327,

They have to get the older artists. If they went for the newer pop and rock singers, no one would show up.
NONE OF THEM SHOULD TALK ABOUT POLITICS.I DONT WANT TO HEAR THEIR OPINIONS ON IT ANYMORE THAN I WANT TO HEAR A POLITICIAN SING

Posted: July 26, 2004 12:38 pm
by nycparrothead
Tom, who DO you like if you don't like REM, Pearl Jam OR Neil Young?!?!?! :-? :P :P

Posted: July 26, 2004 12:47 pm
by a1aara
Tommcat327,

This is a free country. Artists have just as much right to speak thier opinons as you and I do. Why is it any different for them? Ronald Reagan was an entertainer. I guess in your world he could have never been president?

Posted: July 26, 2004 1:19 pm
by tommcat327
nycparrothead wrote:Tom, who DO you like if you don't like REM, Pearl Jam OR Neil Young?!?!?! :-? :P :P
ALMOST EVERYTHING EXCEPT THOSE IDIOTS

Posted: July 26, 2004 1:23 pm
by tommcat327
a1aara wrote:Tommcat327,

This is a free country. Artists have just as much right to speak thier opinons as you and I do. Why is it any different for them? Ronald Reagan was an entertainer. I guess in your world he could have never been president?
IT'S DIFFERENT BECAUSE THEY RUN AROUND IN PUBLIC SPOUTING OFF AT THE MOUTH WITH THE MOST IDIOTIC STATEMENTS WHICH ARE USUALLY SO UNINFORMED IT'S UNREAL,YET WHAT THEY SAY IS TAKEN TO HEART BY THOUSANDS OF MINDLESS CITIZENS WHO WILL VOTE FOR WHOEVER A STUPID RAPPER WITH NO EDUCATION PAST 5TH GRADE TELLS THEM TO.THATS WHY IT'S NOT OK.YOU OR I TALKING ABOUT THIS CRAP IN PUBLIC WILL HAVE NO IMPACT ON HOW PEOPLE VOTE UNLIKE THE MORONS WE ARE DISCUSSING