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Posted: August 4, 2004 4:32 pm
by CaptainP
BottleOfRum: Do you know how hard it is to read a thread about rape when your avatar pops up? :lol:

Posted: August 4, 2004 4:33 pm
by PHBeerman
CaptainP wrote:BottleOfRum: Do you know how hard it is to read a thread about rape when your avatar pops up? :lol:
Or any thread for that matter. That is disturbing dude.

Posted: August 4, 2004 4:44 pm
by LIPH
buffettbride wrote:
CaptainP wrote:
LIPH wrote:
I'm not a criminal lawyer but if the woman doesn't actually say no I'm sure the first thing the defense attorney will argue is that it was consensual.
That's their entire case! He says she consented, even says she was the aggresor.
Gray, gray, and more gray!
I'm old, I can't help it if I have gray hair. :lol:

Posted: August 4, 2004 4:46 pm
by sirgumby77
Ok.... I do not feel like reading all through this but IMHO



Send him to jail where he belongs. Make a statement out of him to all the other thugs in the NBA that this will not be tolerated. Send him to jail, or even better yet----- Let her brothers, uncles, cousins, and father beat the living crap out of Koby in some dark alley, and let him feel like it is to be abused.

Posted: August 4, 2004 4:49 pm
by ph4ever
Big Ron isn't accused of being a rapist he's a porno "star" big difference.

I see Mal's point - I've been in that situation - boyfriend brings friends home and says we're having a threesome. I actually left home on that one.

Rape is rape - no matter what thou. No means no...

Posted: August 4, 2004 4:53 pm
by LIPH
sirgumby77 wrote:Ok.... I do not feel like reading all through this but IMHO



Send him to jail where he belongs. Make a statement out of him to all the other thugs in the NBA that this will not be tolerated. Send him to jail, or even better yet----- Let her brothers, uncles, cousins, and father beat the living crap out of Koby in some dark alley, and let him feel like it is to be abused.
Can we see if he's guilty first?

Posted: August 4, 2004 4:53 pm
by 12vmanRick
I have a thought here too but I like BN and do not wish to be banned for life.

Posted: August 4, 2004 4:57 pm
by sirgumby77
LIPH wrote:
sirgumby77 wrote:Ok.... I do not feel like reading all through this but IMHO



Send him to jail where he belongs. Make a statement out of him to all the other thugs in the NBA that this will not be tolerated. Send him to jail, or even better yet----- Let her brothers, uncles, cousins, and father beat the living crap out of Koby in some dark alley, and let him feel like it is to be abused.
Can we see if he's guilty first?

I belive he is guilty. Look at what he had to do to keep his wife. If he is innocent---dont you think she woulda known that too, and not had to have that multi-million dollar piece of jewelery???


He is as Guilty as Clear Channel is Guilty of raping us on Ticket charges.



How bout that----we never all agreed to pay 10 dollar service charges for tickets... can we now sue CC????

Posted: August 4, 2004 4:58 pm
by sirgumby77
12vmanRick wrote:I have a thought here too but I like BN and do not wish to be banned for life.

That is why I didn't exactly say what I really wanted to say...

Posted: August 4, 2004 4:59 pm
by CaptainP
sirgumby77 wrote: Send him to jail where he belongs. Make a statement out of him to all the other thugs in the NBA that this will not be tolerated. Send him to jail, or even better yet----- Let her brothers, uncles, cousins, and father beat the living crap out of Koby in some dark alley, and let him feel like it is to be abused.
Gumby...don't you think we ought to have the trial first?

Point of this thread is that the girl is now thinking of dropping the charges, because it'll be easier to just sue him in civil court and get money from him, instead of sending him to jail.

Posted: August 4, 2004 4:59 pm
by buffettbride
PHBeerman wrote:
BottleofRum wrote:
PHBeerman wrote:
BottleofRum wrote:
PHBeerman wrote:Translation. The civil case will be much harder if I lose the Criminal one.
This is not true. Civil cases are far easier to prove than criminal cases. Many people have been found not guilty in a criminal case only to lose the civil case...........


Just as OJ Simpson!
Keep reading. You will get to that on page 2
Opps I was just lazy and jumped the gun and never read past page 1 ......... :oops:
I do that all the time.
Premature posting. I hate it when that happens.

Posted: August 4, 2004 4:59 pm
by buffettbride
LIPH wrote:
buffettbride wrote:
CaptainP wrote:
LIPH wrote:
I'm not a criminal lawyer but if the woman doesn't actually say no I'm sure the first thing the defense attorney will argue is that it was consensual.
That's their entire case! He says she consented, even says she was the aggresor.
Gray, gray, and more gray!
I'm old, I can't help it if I have gray hair. :lol:
Gray hair is sexy!

Posted: August 4, 2004 5:00 pm
by CaptainP
sirgumby77 wrote:
I belive he is guilty. Look at what he had to do to keep his wife. If he is innocent---dont you think she woulda known that too, and not had to have that multi-million dollar piece of jewelery???
He admits to cheating on his wife. That's why he bought her the bling.

Posted: August 4, 2004 5:02 pm
by sirgumby77
CaptainP wrote:
sirgumby77 wrote:
I belive he is guilty. Look at what he had to do to keep his wife. If he is innocent---dont you think she woulda known that too, and not had to have that multi-million dollar piece of jewelery???
He admits to sleeping on his wife. That's why he bought her the bling.

Exactly---probably slept with that girl too. Send him to trial, then lock him up.

Posted: August 4, 2004 5:02 pm
by CaptainP
sirgumby77 wrote:
I belive he is guilty. Look at what he had to do to keep his wife. If he is innocent---dont you think she woulda known that too, and not had to have that multi-million dollar piece of jewelery???
He admits to cheating on his wife. That's why he bought her the bling.

Posted: August 4, 2004 5:03 pm
by CaptainP
sirgumby77 wrote:
CaptainP wrote:
sirgumby77 wrote:
I belive he is guilty. Look at what he had to do to keep his wife. If he is innocent---dont you think she woulda known that too, and not had to have that multi-million dollar piece of jewelery???
He admits to sleeping on his wife. That's why he bought her the bling.

Exactly---probably slept with that girl too. Send him to trial, then lock him up.
I edited my OOOPS post. He admits to CHEATING on his wife.

Posted: August 4, 2004 5:04 pm
by buffettbride
CaptainP wrote:
sirgumby77 wrote:
I belive he is guilty. Look at what he had to do to keep his wife. If he is innocent---dont you think she woulda known that too, and not had to have that multi-million dollar piece of jewelery???
He admits to sleeping on his wife. That's why he bought her the bling.
I agree. I would venture to guess he has slept around before. The Bling is for getting caught in such a public manner.

Another interesting perspective on these lines is if Kobe HAS slept around before, would it or could it behove his defense to identify witnesses from previous "flings" to back Kobe up that he is non-violent? It might be a way for his sexual history to work in his favor.

Posted: August 4, 2004 5:06 pm
by CaptainP
buffettbride wrote:
CaptainP wrote:
sirgumby77 wrote:
I belive he is guilty. Look at what he had to do to keep his wife. If he is innocent---dont you think she woulda known that too, and not had to have that multi-million dollar piece of jewelery???
He admits to sleeping on his wife. That's why he bought her the bling.
I agree. I would venture to guess he has slept around before. The Bling is for getting caught in such a public manner.

Another interesting perspective on these lines is if Kobe HAS slept around before, would it or could it behove his defense to identify witnesses from previous "flings" to back Kobe up that he is non-violent? It might be a way for his sexual history to work in his favor.
Maybe he HASN'T cheated before. That's what he's telling Vanessa. (I know...what are the odds of being busted the only time he cheated, but it IS possible.)

Posted: August 4, 2004 5:06 pm
by buffettbride
sirgumby77 wrote:
CaptainP wrote:
sirgumby77 wrote:
I belive he is guilty. Look at what he had to do to keep his wife. If he is innocent---dont you think she woulda known that too, and not had to have that multi-million dollar piece of jewelery???
He admits to sleeping on his wife. That's why he bought her the bling.

Exactly---probably slept with that girl too. Send him to trial, then lock him up.
Man you are a piece of work. :wink:

Posted: August 4, 2004 5:08 pm
by ph4ever
buffettbride wrote:
CaptainP wrote:
sirgumby77 wrote:
I belive he is guilty. Look at what he had to do to keep his wife. If he is innocent---dont you think she woulda known that too, and not had to have that multi-million dollar piece of jewelery???
He admits to sleeping on his wife. That's why he bought her the bling.
I agree. I would venture to guess he has slept around before. The Bling is for getting caught in such a public manner.

Another interesting perspective on these lines is if Kobe HAS slept around before, would it or could it behove his defense to identify witnesses from previous "flings" to back Kobe up that he is non-violent? It might be a way for his sexual history to work in his favor.

I agree the Bling is for getting caught in such a public manner HOWEVER I believe it's also a tool to keep her there until after the trial at least if not to just plain ole keep her there. After all it makes such a better show if she stands by her man