Posted: August 5, 2004 10:24 pm
Precisely! The title of "Lord" should be saved solely for me!!!Key Lime Lee wrote:There are lessons to be learned from him, but I wouldn't annoit him lord.
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Posted: August 5, 2004 10:26 pm
Why do I feel like I'm living a Planet of the Apes TV episode?nycparrothead wrote:Precisely! The title of "Lord" should be saved solely for me!!!Key Lime Lee wrote:There are lessons to be learned from him, but I wouldn't annoit him lord.
Posted: August 5, 2004 10:28 pm
Don't know. Wanna hump?Key Lime Lee wrote:Why do I feel like I'm living a Planet of the Apes TV episode?nycparrothead wrote:Precisely! The title of "Lord" should be saved solely for me!!!Key Lime Lee wrote:There are lessons to be learned from him, but I wouldn't annoit him lord.
Posted: August 5, 2004 10:29 pm
"Get your stinkin hands off me you dirty ape"Key Lime Lee wrote:Why do I feel like I'm living a Planet of the Apes TV episode?nycparrothead wrote:Precisely! The title of "Lord" should be saved solely for me!!!Key Lime Lee wrote:There are lessons to be learned from him, but I wouldn't annoit him lord.
Posted: August 5, 2004 10:48 pm
I find it fascinating that so much logic was applied to determining the existence (or not) of God. To me, logic has nothing to do with it. It's purely a matter of faith, and faith can be quite illogical.Key Lime Lee wrote:This was at a time when every philosopher from Descartes to Aquinas to Kant was trying to establish both the existence of god and/or justification for believing in him. It's a little sad actually to see great philosophers making tenuous leaps of logic in their attempts to justify the philosophical existence of god. Descarte should have stopped with "I think therefore I am" (although I believe "I think" is the only truth) and the argument by design is positively faulty logic.
He was sure ticked off at the Pharisees.Key Lime Lee wrote:Frankly I think that if there were a god, he would reject those who believe merely to save their own ass, but then I think that if there were a god he would be dsigusted for what passes as religion these days.
(I do believe there is a God, and I think he's probably REALLY ticked off at a lot of what passes for religion these days.....
)Posted: August 5, 2004 11:58 pm
Well, what else to philosophers have to do but sit around and think...SchoolGirlHeart wrote:I find it fascinating that so much logic was applied to determining the existence (or not) of God. To me, logic has nothing to do with it. It's purely a matter of faith, and faith can be quite illogical.
Posted: August 6, 2004 12:20 am
good point!Key Lime Lee wrote:Well, what else to philosophers have to do but sit around and think...SchoolGirlHeart wrote:I find it fascinating that so much logic was applied to determining the existence (or not) of God. To me, logic has nothing to do with it. It's purely a matter of faith, and faith can be quite illogical.
Posted: August 6, 2004 1:02 am
Alright, I am going to give my take on the whole God thing. Take it as you may, as I realize that it is just my opinion. But, I believe that Jesus, Buddha, Mohammad, ect are all the same God who has found ways of communicating a belief structure to different people in different ways. I think hey he is all knowing and all powerful, maybe we are selling him short.
Posted: August 6, 2004 7:58 am
there are lessons to be learned from lots of people,it doesnt mean they should be worshippedKey Lime Lee wrote:Tom- I don't think Jesus was a cult leader - I believe he was a philosoper, much like the Buddha, or Mohammad or any number of great minds. There are lessons to be learned from him, but I wouldn't annoit him lord.
Posted: August 6, 2004 8:53 am
I do believe in a God, because there are some miracles that happen on this earth that go beyond human comprehension. Perfect example, Tom leaved that a person can also type in lower case and not just all caps. Praise the Lord!!!! Hallelujah!!!!!tommcat327 wrote:there are lessons to be learned from lots of people,it doesnt mean they should be worshipped
Posted: August 6, 2004 9:28 am
BUT NOW I'M AT WORK AND I'M BACK TO ALL CAPSzanth wrote:I do believe in a God, because there are some miracles that happen on this earth that go beyond human comprehension. Perfect example, Tom leaved that a person can also type in lower case and not just all caps. Praise the Lord!!!! Hallelujah!!!!!tommcat327 wrote:there are lessons to be learned from lots of people,it doesnt mean they should be worshipped
Posted: August 6, 2004 9:31 am
that's because they can't get a real job, and pass themselves off as singer/songwritersKey Lime Lee wrote:Well, what else to philosophers have to do but sit around and think...SchoolGirlHeart wrote:I find it fascinating that so much logic was applied to determining the existence (or not) of God. To me, logic has nothing to do with it. It's purely a matter of faith, and faith can be quite illogical.
Posted: August 6, 2004 9:34 am
either way...the pay sucks ass...hahaAlbatrossFlyer wrote:that's because they can't get a real job, and pass themselves off as singer/songwritersKey Lime Lee wrote:Well, what else to philosophers have to do but sit around and think...SchoolGirlHeart wrote:I find it fascinating that so much logic was applied to determining the existence (or not) of God. To me, logic has nothing to do with it. It's purely a matter of faith, and faith can be quite illogical.
Posted: August 6, 2004 9:38 am
AlbatrossFlyer wrote:that's because they can't get a real job, and pass themselves off as singer/songwritersKey Lime Lee wrote:Well, what else to philosophers have to do but sit around and think...SchoolGirlHeart wrote:I find it fascinating that so much logic was applied to determining the existence (or not) of God. To me, logic has nothing to do with it. It's purely a matter of faith, and faith can be quite illogical.
Posted: August 6, 2004 9:38 am
Proof there is a devil as welltommcat327 wrote:BUT NOW I'M AT WORK AND I'M BACK TO ALL CAPSzanth wrote: I do believe in a God, because there are some miracles that happen on this earth that go beyond human comprehension. Perfect example, Tom leaved that a person can also type in lower case and not just all caps. Praise the Lord!!!! Hallelujah!!!!!
Posted: August 6, 2004 9:48 am
Well said, Lee...Key Lime Lee wrote:Pascal's Wager. Pascal was a p^%%y.desert parrot wrote: There was this French philosopher back in some early century who basically said something to the effect that when calculating the odds that there is a god, wouldn't it be better to take the bet that there is rather than there is not? This way, if there is, you made the right bet. If there is no god than it don't matter nohow anyway!!!
He reasoned that there was one of four possible outcomes:
He believes in god and god exists - he goes to heaven.
He believes in god and god doesn't exist - nothing happens.
He doesn't believe and god exists - he goes to hell.
He doesn't believe and god doesn't exist - nothing happens.
Considering those outcomes, he figured his odds would be best if he believed.
This was at a time when every philosopher from Descartes to Aquinas to Kant was trying to establish both the existence of god and/or justification for believing in him. It's a little sad actually to see great philosophers making tenuous leaps of logic in their attempts to justify the philosophical existence of god. Descarte should have stopped with "I think therefore I am" (although I believe "I think" is the only truth) and the argument by design is positively faulty logic.
Frankly I think that if there were a god, he would reject those who believe merely to save their own ass, but then I think that if there were a god he would be dsigusted for what passes as religion these days.
Tom- I don't think Jesus was a cult leader - I believe he was a philosoper, much like the Buddha, or Mohammad or any number of great minds. There are lessons to be learned from him, but I wouldn't annoit him lord.
Posted: August 6, 2004 9:49 am
If they can't get a real job they could always go into politics.AlbatrossFlyer wrote:that's because they can't get a real job, and pass themselves off as singer/songwritersKey Lime Lee wrote:Well, what else to philosophers have to do but sit around and think...SchoolGirlHeart wrote:I find it fascinating that so much logic was applied to determining the existence (or not) of God. To me, logic has nothing to do with it. It's purely a matter of faith, and faith can be quite illogical.
Posted: August 6, 2004 9:51 am
Kinda like Frank...LIPH wrote: If they can't get a real job they could always go into politics.
Posted: August 6, 2004 9:51 am
And if there is a god why is he/she letting the world go all to $h!t?
Posted: August 6, 2004 9:52 am
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