RAGTOP wrote:Nobody is saying that he doesn't have the potential to be a great QB (actually BOR is but he is a Pats fan so what does he know) I'm just saying that every year there is some quarterback that comes out and plays some good games against mediocre teams and all of a sudden the Marino/Montanna comparisons pop up It's just silly to me.
And I can see someone who is not familiar with Ben saying that. It's understandible because there have been many NFL QB "flashes in the pan". If you only watched him for the first time this weekend, you might think so appropriately. But after you watch him a couple more times, you'll see for yourself. He's for real. He's no Marino or Montana... he will have his very own reputation and recognition soon enough.
what about all the people who were familiar with Leaf, Couch, A Smith, ( the list could go one forever) who all said the same thing. This guy is the next big thing trust me I watched all his college games... I'm pretty sure that if I watched a couple of Miami of Ohio games I would have the same opinion. I just don't jump to these conclusions after 5 games. By the way what he did in college can be thrown out the window... doesn't matter anymore.
LIPH wrote:And Partriots fans should thank the Jets because it was Mo Lewis who knocked Bledsoe out of the game.
Almost every Patriots game I say at least once "Thank God....and Mo Lewis"!
Brady didn't become a phenom until the Patriots beat the Rams in SB36 i.e. a big game! Let's see how well Ben Roth----berger does in a meaningful game on the road in December (@Jax, @ NYG)
Fact is he has only thrown for over 200 yards once this season, sooner or later he will have to pick up his team and win a game on his own, something Brady is a master at, can Ben do it?????
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LIPH wrote:And Partriots fans should thank the Jets because it was Mo Lewis who knocked Bledsoe out of the game.
Almost every Patriots game I say at least once "Thank God....and Mo Lewis"!
Brady didn't become a phenom until the Patriots beat the Rams in SB36 i.e. a big game! Let's see how well Ben Roth----berger does in a meaningful game on the road in December (@Jax, @ NYG)
Fact is he has only thrown for over 200 yards once this season, sooner or later he will have to pick up his team and win a game on his own, something Brady is a master at, can Ben do it?????
LIPH wrote:And Partriots fans should thank the Jets because it was Mo Lewis who knocked Bledsoe out of the game.
Almost every Patriots game I say at least once "Thank God....and Mo Lewis"!
Brady didn't become a phenom until the Patriots beat the Rams in SB36 i.e. a big game! Let's see how well Ben Roth----berger does in a meaningful game on the road in December (@Jax, @ NYG)
Fact is he has only thrown for over 200 yards once this season, sooner or later he will have to pick up his team and win a game on his own, something Brady is a master at, can Ben do it?????
time will tell
exactly time will tell, but the time isn't after 5 games.
RAGTOP wrote:Nobody is saying that he doesn't have the potential to be a great QB (actually BOR is but he is a Pats fan so what does he know) I'm just saying that every year there is some quarterback that comes out and plays some good games against mediocre teams and all of a sudden the Marino/Montanna comparisons pop up It's just silly to me.
And I can see someone who is not familiar with Ben saying that. It's understandible because there have been many NFL QB "flashes in the pan". If you only watched him for the first time this weekend, you might think so appropriately. But after you watch him a couple more times, you'll see for yourself. He's for real. He's no Marino or Montana... he will have his very own reputation and recognition soon enough.
what about all the people who were familiar with Leaf, Couch, A Smith, ( the list could go one forever) who all said the same thing. This guy is the next big thing trust me I watched all his college games... I'm pretty sure that if I watched a couple of Miami of Ohio games I would have the same opinion. I just don't jump to these conclusions after 5 games. By the way what he did in college can be thrown out the window... doesn't matter anymore.
True. I understand your point and it's valid. Maybe I can't give you a more tangible reason other than "I just know"...
One thing you cannot do though is minimize the competition of the MAC, especially not the Miami team Ben played on last year. There is a good reason they got the national television exposure they did last year. And they soundly beat Louisville in the GMAC bowl.
I'm never one to say "He's the next big thing" about anybody. I never would have said it about Leaf and Couch... they were jokes. Hell, there were tons of Brett Favre comparisons for Rex Grossman. I don't believe them for a second. Do I wish they were legit? Hell yeah! I watched Rex play a lot too, but I didn't see half the things in him that I have seen watching Ben play.
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The Steelers are not in the AFC East so I wish him the best, as long as he plays his worst games against my Fins (although he already beat them this year... who hasn't )
RAGTOP wrote:Nobody is saying that he doesn't have the potential to be a great QB (actually BOR is but he is a Pats fan so what does he know) I'm just saying that every year there is some quarterback that comes out and plays some good games against mediocre teams and all of a sudden the Marino/Montanna comparisons pop up It's just silly to me.
The last 2 times I said it, it was Byron Leftwich and Chad Pennington. And I think Ben will make it for the same reasons.
I have mixed feelings about Pennington. Maybe it's the play calling by the offensive coordinator but when you have a receiver like Santana Moss you shouldn't be throwing 6 yard passes.
LIPH wrote:I have mixed feelings about Pennington. Maybe it's the play calling by the offensive coordinator but when you have a receiver like Santana Moss you shouldn't be throwing 6 yard passes.
I think it's the playcalling. Pennington is accurate and makes good reads.
LIPH wrote:I have mixed feelings about Pennington. Maybe it's the play calling by the offensive coordinator but when you have a receiver like Santana Moss you shouldn't be throwing 6 yard passes.
Chad Pennington hasn't been the same since he got hurt. Prior to that most National Football 'experts' had him ahead of Brady!
I think Chad Pennington is a good QB but not at the level he was before getting hurt!
Having Paul Hacket calling the plays doesn't help either.
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Yeah, maybe in a parallel universe... 41-7 Jets in the middle of the 4th... OUCH!!
it was wishful thinking By the way is there anyone in this world more annoying than the JETS JETS JETS guy? Does he have a contract with ABC that states his face must be shown at least 30 times a game. We get it he leads the chant
Yeah, maybe in a parallel universe... 41-7 Jets in the middle of the 4th... OUCH!!
it was wishful thinking By the way is there anyone in this world more annoying than the JETS JETS JETS guy? Does he have a contract with ABC that states his face must be shown at least 30 times a game. We get it he leads the chant
He's right there with the idiots that dress in spikes for Raida's games
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RAGTOP wrote: By the way is there anyone in this world more annoying than the JETS JETS JETS guy? Does he have a contract with ABC that states his face must be shown at least 30 times a game. We get it he leads the chant
Spoken like someone that lost TWICE to the JETS this year, with one being a HUMILIATING squash on national TV. (Feels good to say that)
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It's just silly to me.
games I would have the same opinion. I just don't jump to these conclusions after 5 games. By the way what he did in college can be thrown out the window... doesn't matter anymore.
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