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Posted: March 18, 2005 1:39 pm
by Lightning Bolt
Just happened to be watching Wed a.m. Today show when she was introduced.
Impressive young woman, likeable song :P

Posted: March 18, 2005 2:31 pm
by conched
I caught the Today Show appearance and appreciated her comment that she would not be up there dancing around in a halter top...

..then I saw the new album cover on Kerosene.

Image

Sony has its way again. I hope she gets to record her stuff if that's what she wants.

It was good to hear Heather Little mentioned and Matt Lauer even pointed out that she was getting a mention.

Thanks for the video link.

Posted: March 18, 2005 5:29 pm
by Mr Play
USA Today has a feature article on Miranda, with some good insight into how the industry works;
http://www.usatoday.com/life/music/news ... bert_x.htm

Posted: March 18, 2005 9:20 pm
by ragtopW
BTW the CD Rocks.. :D









OK maybe it countrys.. :)

Posted: March 23, 2005 12:08 pm
by Mr Play
Kerosene was the #1 Country Album last week!
Billboard wrote: Miranda Lambert comes in at No. 18 with her Epic debut "Kerosene," with sales of 40,000. The set also tops the Billboard Top Country Albums chart, making the 2003 "Nashville Star" finalist the fourth debut female country artist in history to bow in that chart's top slot after Gretchen Wilson, LeAnn Rimes and Wynonna Judd.
http://www.billboard.com/bb/daily/artic ... 1000853179

Posted: March 23, 2005 6:44 pm
by Mr Play
Here are the actual numbers reported by Soundscan (Thank you meisinger!) :)
# 18 on Billboard Top 200.
# 1 on the Billboard Country Chart.
39,739 scans with another 651 the previous week.

Posted: March 23, 2005 7:24 pm
by ragtopW
8) 8) :pirate:

Posted: March 23, 2005 8:28 pm
by Ilph
The song's getting some airplay on St. Louis (finally!) Which is a good sign, because St. Louis is one of the last major markets to pick up new singles. So if we're playing it, then there's a good chance everyone else is playing it more. 8)

Posted: March 23, 2005 8:53 pm
by Ilph
Does the Today show have video up on the internet of Miranda's segment? I'm getting her's and Trace Adkin's CDs this week.

Posted: March 23, 2005 9:27 pm
by Mr Play
Ilph wrote:Does the Today show have video up on the internet of Miranda's segment? I'm getting her's and Trace Adkin's CDs this week.
LIPH found this; http://www.criticalmention.net/vg/sony/

Posted: March 23, 2005 9:49 pm
by Ilph
Thanks, that was great!

Posted: March 23, 2005 10:49 pm
by ragtopW
I love the CD.. Just one thing be careful where you play it



you might get caught dancing while doing housework..

by the hot neighbor :oops: :oops: yeah the Co-ed :oops:

Posted: March 23, 2005 11:03 pm
by Key Lime Lee
Sell more copies! Sell more copies!

FourPlay needs a family vacation, so this thing better go platinum....

Oh - and the business sucks.

What the article doesn't point out very clearly is that if it costs $500,000 for the record and the video, Miranda has to pay that out of her $1 per record. Meanwhile the label is making $4 (or so) per record profit. So after 500,000 records sell, Miranda has no money (because the $500,000 is recouped by the label for expenses) and the label has 2.5 mil ($4 x 500,000 plus the $500,000 Miranda paid them back).

It's indentured servitude at best, but it's still the only path to the big time.

Posted: March 23, 2005 11:18 pm
by Ilph
Key Lime Lee wrote:Sell more copies! Sell more copies!

FourPlay needs a family vacation, so this thing better go platinum....

Oh - and the business sucks.

What the article doesn't point out very clearly is that if it costs $500,000 for the record and the video, Miranda has to pay that out of her $1 per record. Meanwhile the label is making $4 (or so) per record profit. So after 500,000 records sell, Miranda has no money (because the $500,000 is recouped by the label for expenses) and the label has 2.5 mil ($4 x 500,000 plus the $500,000 Miranda paid them back).

It's indentured servitude at best, but it's still the only path to the big time.
But the artists understand this coming in, and are willing to pay that price. So while things might be tough at the beginning, they understand what they're getting into going in. But I agree, it is a crappy way to be treated by a business that they make money for.

Posted: March 23, 2005 11:20 pm
by Ilph
ragtopW wrote:I love the CD.. Just one thing be careful where you play it



you might get caught dancing while doing housework..

by the hot neighbor :oops: :oops: yeah the Co-ed :oops:
Maybe you should invite her over for a little bump and grind :pirate:

Posted: March 23, 2005 11:20 pm
by Key Lime Lee
Ilph wrote:
Key Lime Lee wrote:Sell more copies! Sell more copies!

FourPlay needs a family vacation, so this thing better go platinum....

Oh - and the business sucks.

What the article doesn't point out very clearly is that if it costs $500,000 for the record and the video, Miranda has to pay that out of her $1 per record. Meanwhile the label is making $4 (or so) per record profit. So after 500,000 records sell, Miranda has no money (because the $500,000 is recouped by the label for expenses) and the label has 2.5 mil ($4 x 500,000 plus the $500,000 Miranda paid them back).

It's indentured servitude at best, but it's still the only path to the big time.
But the artists understand this coming in, and are willing to pay that price. So while things might be tough at the beginning, they understand what they're getting into going in. But I agree, it is a crappy way to be treated by a business that they make money for.
Well, put more frankly, its the only game in town. If you don't like how its run there's no other option.

Posted: March 23, 2005 11:25 pm
by Ilph
Key Lime Lee wrote:
Ilph wrote:
Key Lime Lee wrote:Sell more copies! Sell more copies!

FourPlay needs a family vacation, so this thing better go platinum....

Oh - and the business sucks.

What the article doesn't point out very clearly is that if it costs $500,000 for the record and the video, Miranda has to pay that out of her $1 per record. Meanwhile the label is making $4 (or so) per record profit. So after 500,000 records sell, Miranda has no money (because the $500,000 is recouped by the label for expenses) and the label has 2.5 mil ($4 x 500,000 plus the $500,000 Miranda paid them back).

It's indentured servitude at best, but it's still the only path to the big time.
But the artists understand this coming in, and are willing to pay that price. So while things might be tough at the beginning, they understand what they're getting into going in. But I agree, it is a crappy way to be treated by a business that they make money for.
Well, put more frankly, its the only game in town. If you don't like how its run there's no other option.
Yeah, paying the Nashville mafia, I mean Nashville machine seems like a much better option than years of one night bar stands and drunks who think they can dance

Posted: March 23, 2005 11:52 pm
by Tiki Bar
Thank you for the insight, Lee!

Posted: March 24, 2005 7:22 am
by a1aara
March 23, 2005: Miranda Lambert has a hit from the get go. The Texan debuted at number 1 on the Billboard country charts for the week ending March 29, her label, Sony, announced Wednesday.
Lambert's "Kerosene" had first week sales of 40,390, taking over the top spot from Kenny Chesney's "Be As You Are: Songs From an Old Blue Chair."
Only five other country artists in the history of Soundscan have earned a number 1 on their debut: Wynonna (1992), Billy Ray Cyrus (1992), LeAnn Rimes (1996), Buddy Jewell (2003) and Gretchen Wilson (2004). Sony Nashville, Miranda's parent record label, has released the last three new acts to debut at number one. No other music company has scored a country number 1 debut on a first album since 1996.
"Kereosene" is number 18 on the overall top 200 for all genres.
"When my manager called with the news I was driving home from the gym and I had to tell him to hang on because my truck had just died," Lambert said. "I had to pull over to the side of the road - I'd like to say it was just because of the shock I was feeling, but my truck really wouldn't start. It's an old beat up Ford and it's always doing that but it picked the perfect moment."
"Of course, the first thing I did when I got home was call my band and they all started crying," she said. "This weekend we're doing a show in Gulfport at a Casino so we'll leave the celebration to your imagination."
"A Number One debut for a new artist is a major feat and is a testament to Miranda's solid talent as a singer, songwriter and performer. All of us at Epic are extremely proud of Miranda," says Mark Wright, Executive Vice President, A&R, Sony Music Nashville.
Lambert wrote or co-wrote 11 of the 12 tracks including the first single, "Me and Charlie Talking" which reached the top 30 and has been the Number One song on the Texas Music Charts for the last 11 consecutive weeks, tying Gretchen Wilson's "Redneck Woman."
Lambert's new radio single, "Bring Me Down" will go for adds on April 4.

Posted: March 24, 2005 8:27 am
by meisinger
Ilph wrote:
Key Lime Lee wrote:Sell more copies! Sell more copies!

FourPlay needs a family vacation, so this thing better go platinum....

Oh - and the business sucks.

What the article doesn't point out very clearly is that if it costs $500,000 for the record and the video, Miranda has to pay that out of her $1 per record. Meanwhile the label is making $4 (or so) per record profit. So after 500,000 records sell, Miranda has no money (because the $500,000 is recouped by the label for expenses) and the label has 2.5 mil ($4 x 500,000 plus the $500,000 Miranda paid them back).

It's indentured servitude at best, but it's still the only path to the big time.
But the artists understand this coming in, and are willing to pay that price. So while things might be tough at the beginning, they understand what they're getting into going in. But I agree, it is a crappy way to be treated by a business that they make money for.
Some do and some don't. I've worked with several who thought the day they signed their deal they had made it. The smart ones understand that they will not see any money for quite a while. While it may seem crappy, think about the vast majority that the label doesn't recoup. The label takes all the risk. They (in a way) deserve to see a return on their investment, before the artist makes any real money. Granted, some of that initial spend doesn't always make sense. It's just the way it is. Personally, I prefer the way Clint Black runs his label.

Equity Music Group was created with the intention of actualizing
a new and unique concept in the relationship between artist and
record label: a partnership. Equity by definition denotes fairness, as
well as ownership. Each and every artist who signs with Equity Music
Group will experience both of these concepts. The artists will own
what they create and get paid from the very first scanned sale. In turn,
the label has a vested interest in other aspects of the artist's career.
A win-win situation; and in the best and truest sense
of the word; Partnership.