Young Jams For Votes, Readies "Greatest Hits"

Jahfin · Post by **Jahfin** » October 4, 2004 5:08 pm

From Billboard.com:
http://www.billboard.com/bb/daily/artic ... 1000652806

Although not an announced part of the lineup, Neil Young spent the weekend making appearances at Vote for Change tour stops in Toledo, Ohio, and Detroit. Sources suggest the veteran Canadian singer/songwriter may turn up to play with every VFC bill before the trek wraps Oct. 11 in Washington, D.C.

Young dropped in on Pearl Jam's Saturday evening show in Toledo, stunning the crowd at the start of the second encore when he and his wife Pegi guested with Pearl Jam's Eddie Vedder on an acoustic version of "Harvest Moon." Young stuck around to rock through "All Along the Watchtower," "Cortez the Killer," "Rockin' in the Free World" and, with Peter Frampton chipping in on guitar, "Act of Love," which appeared on the 1995 Young/Pearl Jam album "Mirror Ball."

The next evening, Young was even busier, reprising "Harvest Moon" and "Heart of Gold" with the Dixie Chicks and James Taylor at Detroit's Fox Theatre. Later on, he teamed with Dave Matthews Band just outside the city at the Palace of Auburn Hills for "Watchtower" and "Rockin' in the Free World."

Meanwhile, Reprise has set a Nov. 16 release date for Young's first "Greatest Hits." The 16-track set boasts such classics as "The Needle and the Damage Done," "Southern Man," Young's sole No. 1 hit, "Comes a Time" and "Cinnamon Girl," along with the Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young cuts "Ohio" and "Helpless."

"Greatest Hits" will also be available with a bonus DVD featuring the original stereo master mixes of the music. When each song is played, the DVD will display the vinyl cover of the album from which it is drawn spinning on turntable. Bonus features include a photo gallery, lyrics and music videos for "Harvest Moon" and "Rockin' in the Free World."

As previously reported, Young will host and perform at his annual Bridge School Benefit on Oct. 23-24 outside San Francisco. Paul McCartney, Sonic Youth, Red Hot Chili Peppers and Tony Bennett are also on the bill.

Here is the track list for "Greatest Hits":

"Down by the River"
"Cowgirl in the Sand"
"Cinnamon Girl"
"Helpless"
"After the Gold Rush"
"Only Love Can Break Your Heart"
"Southern Man"
"Ohio"
"The Needle and the Damage Done"
"Old Man"
"Heart of Gold"
"Like a Hurricane"
"Comes a Time"
"Hey, Hey, My, My (Into the Black)"
"Rockin' in the Free World"
"Harvest Moon"

tommcat327 · Post by **tommcat327** » October 4, 2004 5:09 pm

damn hippy

tikitatas · Post by **tikitatas** » October 4, 2004 5:13 pm

Let's hear it for old Canadian hippies!!

(I am one.)

tommcat327 · Post by **tommcat327** » October 4, 2004 5:14 pm

tikitatas wrote:Let's hear it for old Canadian hippies!!

(I am one.)

i like canadiens alot

,not hippies though

Jahfin · Post by **Jahfin** » October 4, 2004 5:19 pm

tommcat327 wrote:damn hippy

Having people like Neil Young around sure beats the hell out of close minded folks like yourself.

tommcat327 · Post by **tommcat327** » October 4, 2004 5:24 pm

Jahfin wrote:
tommcat327 wrote:damn hippy
Having people like Neil Young around sure beats the hell out of close minded folks like yourself.

he just plain sucks a$$.listening to him sing makes me want to do the humane thing and put him out of his misery.
and all these "open minded" people?they are completely close minded to the fact that sometimes war is necessary,thats how those idiots got the right to have this stupid little VFC tour.they are more narrow minded in that fact than anybody who is for the war

daddymention · Post by **daddymention** » October 5, 2004 2:23 am

I've always loved Neil Young....The "Greatest Hits" that is coming out, while it looks good, can't beat the double CD of classics "DECADE"...This one is the must own collection of Neil's....

I'm also looking forward to getting the new Tom Waits album tomorrow!!!
Wouldn't it be great to get the two to record a duet together....it would be fabulous!!!

Thanks, Jahfin, for the info.....you have the best taste in music...no matter what anybody else says!!!

a1aara · Post by **a1aara** » October 5, 2004 8:33 am

tommcat wrote:

and all these "open minded" people?they are completely close minded to the fact that sometimes war is necessary

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the only necessary thing about this war is the profit for Bush/Cheney's corporate intrests.

tommcat327 · Post by **tommcat327** » October 5, 2004 10:10 am

a1aara wrote:tommcat wrote:

and all these "open minded" people?they are completely close minded to the fact that sometimes war is necessary

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the only necessary thing about this war is the profit for Bush/Cheney's corporate intrests.

and US companies didnt profit from rebuilding after WWII?that doesnt mean that we went to war to make someone money.

a1aara · Post by **a1aara** » October 5, 2004 10:59 am

WHat does it have to do with WWII? I doubt the vice president personally profited during WWII, like our present VP is.

LIPH · Post by **LIPH** » October 5, 2004 11:08 am

How is Dick Cheney profiting from the war? He's no longer employed by Halliburton and he gave up his remaining stock options when he left the company to run for office.

a1aara · Post by **a1aara** » October 5, 2004 11:33 am

LIPH wrote:

How is Dick Cheney profiting from the war? He's no longer employed by Halliburton and he gave up his remaining stock options when he left the company to run for office.
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This isn't entirely true. It was disclopsed that Cheney made some where around $750,000.00 dollars from Haliburton last year. Haliburton also operates under the name of "Brown, Root, and Kellog."corporation. Cheney is still very much involved.

a1aara · Post by **a1aara** » October 5, 2004 11:44 am

Cheney is still paid by Pentagon contractor

Bush deputy gets up to $1m from firm with Iraq oil deal

Robert Bryce in Austin, Texas and Julian Borger in Washington
Wednesday March 12, 2003
The Guardian

Halliburton, the Texas company which has been awarded the Pentagon's contract to put out potential oil-field fires in Iraq and which is bidding for postwar construction contracts, is still making annual payments to its former chief executive, the vice-president Dick Cheney.
The payments, which appear on Mr Cheney's 2001 financial disclosure statement, are in the form of "deferred compensation" of up to $1m (£600,000) a year.

When he left Halliburton in 2000 to become George Bush's running mate, he opted not to receive his leaving payment in a lump sum but instead have it paid to him over five years, possibly for tax reasons.

An aide to the vice president said yesterday: "This is money that Mr Cheney was owed by the corporation as part of his salary for the time he was employed by Halliburton and which was a fixed amount paid to him over time."

The aide said the payment was even insured so that it would not be affected even if Halliburton went bankrupt, to ensure there was no conflict of interest.

"Also, the vice president has nothing whatsoever to do with the Pentagon bidding process," the aide added.

The company would not say how much the payments are. The obligatory disclosure statement filled by all top government officials says only that they are in the range of $100,000 and $1m. Nor is it clear how they are calculated.

Halliburton is one of five large US corporations - the others are the Bechtel Group, Fluor Corp, Parsons Corp, and the Louis Berger Group - invited to bid for contracts in what may turn out to be the biggest reconstruction project since the second world war.

It is estimated to be worth up to $900m for the preliminary work alone, such as rebuilding Iraq's hospitals, ports, airports and schools.

The contract winners will be able to establish a presence in post-Saddam Iraq that should give them an invaluable edge in winning future contracts.

The defence department contract awarded to the Halliburton subsidiary, Kellog, Brown & Root (KBR), to control oil fires if Saddam Hussein sets the well heads alight, will put the company in an excellent position to bid for huge contracts when Iraq's oil industry is rehabilitated.

KBR has already benefited considerably from the "war on terror". It has so far been awarded contracts worth nearly $33m to build the detention camp at Guantanamo Bay in Cuba for al-Qaida suspects.

Asked whether the payments to Mr Cheney represented a conflict of interest, Halliburton's spokeswoman, Wendy Hall, said: "We have been working as a government contractor since the 1940s. Since this time, KBR has become the premier provider of logistics and support services to all branches of the military."

In the five years Mr Cheney was at the helm, Halliburton nearly doubled the amount of business it did with the government to $2.3bn. The company also more than doubled its political contributions to $1.2m, overwhelmingly to Republican candidates.

Mr Cheney sold most of his Halliburton shares when he left the company, but retained stock options worth about $8m. He arranged to pay any profits to charity.

Jahfin · Post by **Jahfin** » October 5, 2004 11:57 am

tommcat327 wrote:
Jahfin wrote:
tommcat327 wrote:damn hippy
Having people like Neil Young around sure beats the hell out of close minded folks like yourself.
he just plain sucks a$$.listening to him sing makes me want to do the humane thing and put him out of his misery.
and all these "open minded" people?they are completely close minded to the fact that sometimes war is necessary,thats how those idiots got the right to have this stupid little VFC tour.they are more narrow minded in that fact than anybody who is for the war

I've also seen you celebrate the death of Kurt Cobain on this board and mentioned in another thread how it wouldn't have hurt your feelings any if Clapton had been on the copter that took Stevie Ray Vaughan's life (or to quote you exactly ("not that i wish clapton had died but if one of them had to go i wish they hadnt switched.") which is pretty much saying the same thing. These are some of the most cold blooded things I've ever read on a message board anywhere. You seem to forget that the people behind the Vote For Change tour have the right to protest the war and urge people to vote for Kerry. I may not agree with all of their views myself but I wholeheartedly agree with their right to take part in this tour and speak their minds.

DeactiveCarib · Post by **DeactiveCarib** » October 5, 2004 12:01 pm

Jahfin wrote:
tommcat327 wrote:
Jahfin wrote:
tommcat327 wrote:damn hippy
Having people like Neil Young around sure beats the hell out of close minded folks like yourself.
he just plain sucks a$$.listening to him sing makes me want to do the humane thing and put him out of his misery.
and all these "open minded" people?they are completely close minded to the fact that sometimes war is necessary,thats how those idiots got the right to have this stupid little VFC tour.they are more narrow minded in that fact than anybody who is for the war
I've also seen you celebrate the death of Kurt Cobain on this board and mentioned in another thread how it wouldn't have hurt your feelings any if Clapton had been on the copter that took Stevie Ray Vaughan's life (or to quote you exactly ("not that i wish clapton had died but if one of them had to go i wish they hadnt switched.") which is pretty much saying the same thing. These are some of the most cold blooded things I've ever read on a message board anywhere. You seem to forget that the people behind the Vote For Change tour have the right to protest the war and urge people to vote for Kerry. I may not agree with all of their views myself but I wholeheartedly agree with their right to take part in this tour and speak their minds.

actually, believe it or not, I was at the VFC tour a few nites ago and they didn't do that much bush-bashing or kerry-supporting as you would think. It was more "the deadline for voter registration ends monday!!!! Register!!!! Vote for Change!!!!!!!" although one guy did say that a vote for bush is like sh*tting in your own bed

Other than that, it wasn't really all that political . . . during the intermission they showed interviews of the acts and bandmembers and they stated their problems with the Bush administration in a very polite and reasonable way . . . there was a lot more music than politics

LIPH · Post by **LIPH** » October 5, 2004 12:07 pm

a1aara wrote:LIPH wrote:

How is Dick Cheney profiting from the war? He's no longer employed by Halliburton and he gave up his remaining stock options when he left the company to run for office.
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This isn't entirely true. It was disclopsed that Cheney made some where around $750,000.00 dollars from Haliburton last year. Haliburton also operates under the name of "Brown, Root, and Kellog."corporation. Cheney is still very much involved.

As the article you posted in your next post points out, that's deferred compensation which is pretty standard practice in corporate America when an executive leaves. If Cheney had chosen to take it in a lump sum instead of spreading it out over time, probably for tax reasons (which the article you posted clearly states), we wouldn't be having this conversation.

Actually, it's Kellogg, Brown & Root and Halliburton doesn't "also operate" under that name. KBR is a subsidiary of Halliburton (that's mentioned in the article you posted too).

rednekkPH · Post by **rednekkPH** » October 5, 2004 12:10 pm

Jahfin wrote:
tommcat327 wrote:
Jahfin wrote:
tommcat327 wrote:damn hippy
Having people like Neil Young around sure beats the hell out of close minded folks like yourself.
he just plain sucks a$$.listening to him sing makes me want to do the humane thing and put him out of his misery.
and all these "open minded" people?they are completely close minded to the fact that sometimes war is necessary,thats how those idiots got the right to have this stupid little VFC tour.they are more narrow minded in that fact than anybody who is for the war
I've also seen you celebrate the death of Kurt Cobain on this board and mentioned in another thread how it wouldn't have hurt your feelings any if Clapton had been on the copter that took Stevie Ray Vaughan's life (or to quote you exactly ("not that i wish clapton had died but if one of them had to go i wish they hadnt switched.") which is pretty much saying the same thing. These are some of the most cold blooded things I've ever read on a message board anywhere.

a1aara · Post by **a1aara** » October 5, 2004 12:51 pm

Haliburton does do business as KBR. I pay government contracts for the DOD. Any Haliburton/KBR account that comes up to be paid has to be sit aside for approval from the Treasury Dept and FBI because of fraud. It seems a lot of money that was supposed to go to support our troops is missing. Every contract that was awarded to Haliburton was a "No Bid" contract. No other corporations were even given a chance to bid. Someone is making out great in this deal and it's not the troops.

tommcat327 · Post by **tommcat327** » October 5, 2004 6:12 pm

Jahfin wrote:
I've also seen you celebrate the death of Kurt Cobain on this board and mentioned in another thread how it wouldn't have hurt your feelings any if Clapton had been on the copter that took Stevie Ray Vaughan's life (or to quote you exactly ("not that i wish clapton had died but if one of them had to go i wish they hadnt switched.") which is pretty much saying the same thing. These are some of the most cold blooded things I've ever read on a message board anywhere. You seem to forget that the people behind the Vote For Change tour have the right to protest the war and urge people to vote for Kerry. I may not agree with all of their views myself but I wholeheartedly agree with their right to take part in this tour and speak their minds.

i'm still glad cobain is gone.
as far as the clapton/vaughn thing?i simply meant that in the terms of who would have been a greater loss to the music world(in my opinion) it was SRV,so if one of them had to go i'd prefer it hadnt been vaughn.i certainly wish neither one of them was gone.
the only time i feel no sympathy for dead rock stars is when it happens due to their own stupidity.even the great ones like hendrix or bon scott.

Jahfin · Post by **Jahfin** » October 6, 2004 11:15 am

tommcat327 wrote:
Jahfin wrote:
I've also seen you celebrate the death of Kurt Cobain on this board and mentioned in another thread how it wouldn't have hurt your feelings any if Clapton had been on the copter that took Stevie Ray Vaughan's life (or to quote you exactly ("not that i wish clapton had died but if one of them had to go i wish they hadnt switched.") which is pretty much saying the same thing. These are some of the most cold blooded things I've ever read on a message board anywhere. You seem to forget that the people behind the Vote For Change tour have the right to protest the war and urge people to vote for Kerry. I may not agree with all of their views myself but I wholeheartedly agree with their right to take part in this tour and speak their minds.
i'm still glad cobain is gone.
as far as the clapton/vaughn thing?i simply meant that in the terms of who would have been a greater loss to the music world(in my opinion) it was SRV,so if one of them had to go i'd prefer it hadnt been vaughn.i certainly wish neither one of them was gone.
the only time i feel no sympathy for dead rock stars is when it happens due to their own stupidity.even the great ones like hendrix or bon scott.

I guess we'll have to agree to disagree on the subject of dead rock stars. While I wasn't necessarily a huge Nirvana fan, the impact they had musically and on society as a whole (for better or worse) is undeniable. I just find it sad how Kurt (and Janis, Jimi, Morrision, Bonham, etc.) went out, not something to be celebrated. The musical legacy they left speaks way louder than how they slipped their mortal coils but then again you're probably glad someone assassinated John Lennon so you couldn't even begin to understand.

Back on the subject of Neil Young, on his most recent tour he ran all his buses on recycled vegetable oil (as does Willie Nelson) in order to demonstrate that there are indeed alternative means of fuel. Call him a whining, bitching hippie if you want (and I'm sure you will) but he's actually doing something to improve the situation. Which is much more than I can say about your endless bitching about "hippies" on this board which accomplishes absolutely nothing.