iuparrothead wrote:I'm guessing his longtime Senate tenancy has partially been a result of a Democratic machine that reigns in Massachusetts somewhat similar to the Democratic political machine that has kept Richard J and Richard M Daley in office as mayor here in Chicago for many decades. It's conceivable that it's difficult to mount a legitimate oppositional campaign against Senators Kerry and (especially) Kennedy because of their longstanding name recognition and political backers and connections.
I'm sure the Bush family has the same thing going on in Texas.
Was anyone else totally aroused by this? I LOVE YOU ANN!! I don't have a clue what you said, but I am SOOOO HOT RIGHT NOW!!!
I'm with you Shane... I love intelligent women. And since Ann is intelligent AND incredibly attractive...
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Desdamona wrote:So much for coming back to this thread
for a civilized political discussion
(whatever that is!)
Sorry, captainjoe.
No problem. One would think with the seriousness of this election people would want to talk about issues and not just steer the disussion into a free for all. Maybe I should have gone to a more serious debate forum to ask my question.
I posed the question because I thought the President was skirting around the issues when all he had to say that his opposition is a liberal. Liberal is not a bad word. Even John Kerry skirted around the issues. I quess I am just tired of the politics of today. We need to get back to issues and not 30 second sound bites or what works in a focus group in Ohio. When Abe Lincoln and Stephan Douglas debated, their debates would last five to six hours and people would come from all over to listen and join in in the debate.
Desdamona wrote:So much for coming back to this thread
for a civilized political discussion
(whatever that is!)
Sorry, captainjoe.
No problem. One would think with the seriousness of this election people would want to talk about issues and not just steer the disussion into a free for all. Maybe I should have gone to a more serious debate forum to ask my question.
I posed the question because I thought the President was skirting around the issues when all he had to say that his opposition is a liberal. Liberal is not a bad word. Even John Kerry skirted around the issues. I quess I am just tired of the politics of today. We need to get back to issues and not 30 second sound bites or what works in a focus group in Ohio. When Abe Lincoln and Stephan Douglas debated, their debates would last five to six hours and people would come from all over to listen and join in in the debate.
Anyways,
i answered your question before i went off topic
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tommcat327 wrote:yes there is something wrong with being a MA liberal.they s** a$$ and should never ever be allowed to serve in any office anywhere.as a matter of fact they should be deported to france where they belong so i dont ever have to see another one.then maybe my state might be a nice place to live.currently however i hate it like you cannot ever possibly imagine
Desdamona wrote:So much for coming back to this thread
for a civilized political discussion
(whatever that is!)
Sorry, captainjoe.
No problem. One would think with the seriousness of this election people would want to talk about issues and not just steer the disussion into a free for all. Maybe I should have gone to a more serious debate forum to ask my question.
I posed the question because I thought the President was skirting around the issues when all he had to say that his opposition is a liberal. Liberal is not a bad word. Even John Kerry skirted around the issues. I quess I am just tired of the politics of today. We need to get back to issues and not 30 second sound bites or what works in a focus group in Ohio. When Abe Lincoln and Stephan Douglas debated, their debates would last five to six hours and people would come from all over to listen and join in in the debate.
Anyways,
The classic meaning of liberal is a perfectly fine word. However, the negative connotations that exist now do make it an unattractive label for centrist voters. That is why Kerry is working so diligently at avoiding his 20 year US Senate voting record.
RhumChum wrote:The thinks you wouldn't know a "centrist" if they walked up and planted a big wet kiss on your lips, Troy . . .
I did not say I am a centrist. I have several key issues where my beliefs are very conservative. However, my wife is a true centrist. I am ashamed to admit she voted for Clinton in 92 even. I am educating her though.
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