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Yet another Clinton era mistake is history.

This is not going to make Brethren Thomas happy!

nycparrothead wrote:This is not going to make Brethren Thomas happy!

No this will make Brethren Thomas Happy.

Thank You Brethren Shane

brother thomas is quite pleased with the ruling however kerry has vowed to reverse it and reinstate the ban as soon as he can if he becomes president.that does not make brother thomas happy at all

tommcat327 wrote:brother thomas is quite pleased with the ruling however kerry has vowed to reverse it and reinstate the ban as soon as he can if he becomes president.that does not make brother thomas happy at all

Brethren Thomaseth, would you like to huggeth it out?

tommcat327 wrote:brother thomas is quite pleased with the ruling however kerry has vowed to reverse it and reinstate the ban as soon as he can if he becomes president.that does not make brother thomas happy at all

Let's pray together that that nightmare does not come true.

PHBeerman wrote:

tommcat327 wrote:brother thomas is quite pleased with the ruling however kerry has vowed to reverse it and reinstate the ban as soon as he can if he becomes president.that does not make brother thomas happy at all

Let's pray together that that nightmare does not come true.

i'll pray with you for that

Why would people need to snowmobile in a national park??? Aren't there other wide open spaces for that?

tikitatas wrote:Why would people need to snowmobile in a national park??? Aren't there other wide open spaces for that?

Ask the business owners in West Yellowstone. Why should snowmobilers be denied access to the US National Park System?

tikitatas wrote:Why would people need to snowmobile in a national park??? Aren't there other wide open spaces for that?

Why would people need to walk/hike/sight-see/camp/etc. there either? Lots of open spaces elsewhere for those activities also.

I see now . . . just read an article. Had no idea how much of their local economy is snowmobile rental/sales based. Here in Canada, the problem is more with trespassers going off the beaten trails onto private property. All our national parks have trails pretty much!

rednekkPH wrote:

tikitatas wrote:Why would people need to snowmobile in a national park??? Aren't there other wide open spaces for that?

Why would people need to walk/hike/sight-see/camp/etc. there either? Lots of open spaces elsewhere for those activities also.

What was the rationale beyond environment? Noise spoiling the quiet?

tikitatas wrote:

rednekkPH wrote:

tikitatas wrote:Why would people need to snowmobile in a national park??? Aren't there other wide open spaces for that?

Why would people need to walk/hike/sight-see/camp/etc. there either? Lots of open spaces elsewhere for those activities also.

What was the rationale beyond environment? Noise spoiling the quiet?

Wacko environmentalists. Same groups that are burning ski lodges and such.

tikitatas wrote:I see now . . . just read an article. Had no idea how much of their local economy is snowmobile rental/sales based. Here in Canada, the problem is more with trespassers going off the beaten trails onto private property. All our national parks have trails pretty much!

That is a big deal there. My folks live in Timmins, the snowmobile trails are laid out better than the streets.

PHBeerman wrote:

tikitatas wrote:I see now . . . just read an article. Had no idea how much of their local economy is snowmobile rental/sales based. Here in Canada, the problem is more with trespassers going off the beaten trails onto private property. All our national parks have trails pretty much!

That is a big deal there. My folks live in Timmins, the snowmobile trails are laid out better than the streets.

Before we give this place the impression that all of Canada is backwater and forest, let's expalin that Canadians love their big cities, too. You just cannot beat the great outdoors in winter when there's fresh snow to zoom through, though. Right, Tommy? Same in New England as here in Nova Scotia -- we love it when it snows.

tikitatas wrote:

PHBeerman wrote:

tikitatas wrote:I see now . . . just read an article. Had no idea how much of their local economy is snowmobile rental/sales based. Here in Canada, the problem is more with trespassers going off the beaten trails onto private property. All our national parks have trails pretty much!

That is a big deal there. My folks live in Timmins, the snowmobile trails are laid out better than the streets.

Before we give this place the impression that all of Canada is backwater and forest, let's expalin that Canadians love their big cities, too. You just cannot beat the great outdoors in winter when there's fresh snow to zoom through, though. Right, Tommy? Same in New England as here in Nova Scotia -- we love it when it snows.

Timmins is a big city. (By Canadian Standards) My folks have lived in much smaller ones.

tikitatas wrote:Why would people need to snowmobile in a national park??? Aren't there other wide open spaces for that?

why would you need to drive your car there,arent there other areas you could do that?

tikitatas wrote:

rednekkPH wrote:

tikitatas wrote:Why would people need to snowmobile in a national park??? Aren't there other wide open spaces for that?

Why would people need to walk/hike/sight-see/camp/etc. there either? Lots of open spaces elsewhere for those activities also.

What was the rationale beyond environment? Noise spoiling the quiet?

the ban was based on emissions and noise polltuon numbers taken from snowmobiles up to 20 years old.when the green groups showed those to the senators looking to stay in office they quickly banned them without even checking the accuracy of the reports.
not that enviro groups would ever lie to get what they want

tommcat327 wrote:

tikitatas wrote:

rednekkPH wrote:

tikitatas wrote:Why would people need to snowmobile in a national park??? Aren't there other wide open spaces for that?

Why would people need to walk/hike/sight-see/camp/etc. there either? Lots of open spaces elsewhere for those activities also.

What was the rationale beyond environment? Noise spoiling the quiet?

the ban was based on emissions and noise polltuon numbers taken from snowmobiles up to 20 years old.when the green groups showed those to the senators looking to stay in office they quickly banned them without even checking the accuracy of the reports.
not that enviro groups would ever lie to get what they want

And the Companys that had Consessions in the park to haul people
around in the snow cats. they had some say in the matter.
if everyone was allowed to drive themselves around than how can they
charge like 50$ for a 2 hour "tour" of the Park???