IQ & Politics

MelliJellyBean · Post by **MelliJellyBean** » November 9, 2004 5:32 pm

I'm not going to start any political conversations here, but I found this very interesting: http://chrisevans3d.com/files/iq.htm

The Lost Manatee · Post by **The Lost Manatee** » November 9, 2004 6:04 pm

Not meaning to stir up any political debates but the link above is a hoax per: http://www.snopes.com/politics/satire/gop.asp

PHBeerman · Post by **PHBeerman** » November 9, 2004 6:11 pm

Not meaning to contribute to the political commentary here, but why is it that liberals never do their research before spewing? (Example: Dan Rather)

Plus, it does not take a rocket scientist to see the flawed logic in that page. Who in their right mind lives in the Northeast willingly?

buffettbride · Post by **buffettbride** » November 9, 2004 6:12 pm

PHBeerman wrote:Not meaning to contribute to the political commentary here, but why is it that liberals never do their research before spewing? (Example: Dan Rather)

Plus, it does not take a rocket scientist to see the flawed logic in that page. Who in their right mind lives in the Northeast willingly?

You could say the same about Idaho

PHBeerman · Post by **PHBeerman** » November 9, 2004 6:15 pm

buffettbride wrote:
PHBeerman wrote:Not meaning to contribute to the political commentary here, but why is it that liberals never do their research before spewing? (Example: Dan Rather)

Plus, it does not take a rocket scientist to see the flawed logic in that page. Who in their right mind lives in the Northeast willingly?
You could say the same about Idaho

Have you ever been to Idaho?

Key Lime Lee · Post by **Key Lime Lee** » November 9, 2004 6:16 pm

PHBeerman wrote:Not meaning to contribute to the political commentary here, but why is it that liberals never do their research before spewing? (Example: Dan Rather)

the same could be said for a whole host of conservatives, including the one in the white house...

why let "facts" get in the way of a good point?

buffettbride · Post by **buffettbride** » November 9, 2004 6:19 pm

PHBeerman wrote:
buffettbride wrote:
PHBeerman wrote:Not meaning to contribute to the political commentary here, but why is it that liberals never do their research before spewing? (Example: Dan Rather)

Plus, it does not take a rocket scientist to see the flawed logic in that page. Who in their right mind lives in the Northeast willingly?
You could say the same about Idaho
Have you ever been to Idaho?

Nope. But I've never been to the Northeast either, so evidently we have a case of another liberal not doing research.

PHBeerman · Post by **PHBeerman** » November 9, 2004 6:20 pm

Key Lime Lee wrote:
PHBeerman wrote:Not meaning to contribute to the political commentary here, but why is it that liberals never do their research before spewing? (Example: Dan Rather)
the same could be said for a whole host of conservatives, including the one in the white house...

why let "facts" get in the way of a good point?

And your facts are?

How about a point?

PHBeerman · Post by **PHBeerman** » November 9, 2004 6:22 pm

buffettbride wrote:
PHBeerman wrote:
buffettbride wrote:
PHBeerman wrote:Not meaning to contribute to the political commentary here, but why is it that liberals never do their research before spewing? (Example: Dan Rather)

Plus, it does not take a rocket scientist to see the flawed logic in that page. Who in their right mind lives in the Northeast willingly?
You could say the same about Idaho
Have you ever been to Idaho?
Nope. But I've never been to the Northeast either, so evidently we have a case of another liberal not doing research.

I have been to the Northeast. And I can guarantee I will never live there.

Nor will I live in California, but that is beside the point.

Elrod · Post by **Elrod** » November 9, 2004 6:28 pm

I'm not trying to start a fire here, but I found these very interesting

NYCPORT · Post by **NYCPORT** » November 9, 2004 6:49 pm

Here's something else along those lines. Fictional, but oddly correct on many points...

My fellow Americans, the people of this nation have spoken, and
> > spoken with a clear voice. So I am here to offer my concession.
> > [Boos, groans, rending of garments]
> >
> >
> > I concede that I overestimated the intelligence of the American people.
> > Though the people disagree with the President on almost every issue,
> > you saw fit to vote for him. I never saw that coming. That's really special.
> > And I mean "special" in the sense that we use it to describe those
> > kids who ride the short school bus and find ways to injure
> > themselves while eating pudding with rubber spoons. That kind of special.
> >
> >
> > I concede that I misjudged the power of hate. That's pretty powerful
> > stuff, and I didn't see it. So let me take a moment to congratulate
> > the President's
> > strategists: Putting the gay marriage amendments on the ballot in
> > various swing states like Ohio... well, that was just genius.
> > Genius. It got people, a certain kind of people, to the polls. The
> > unprecedented number of folks who showed up and cited "moral values"
> > as their biggest issue, those people changed history. The folks who
> > consider same sex marriage a more important issue than war, or
> > terrorism, or the economy... Who'd have thought the election would
> > belong to them? Well, Karl Rove did. Gotta give it up to him for that. [Boos.] Now, now.
> > Credit where it's due.
> >
> >
> > I concede that I put too much faith in America's youth. With 8 out
> > of 10 of you opposing the President, with your friends and
> > classmates dying daily in a war you disapprove of, with your future
> > being mortgaged to pay for rich old peoples' tax breaks, you somehow
> > managed to sit on your asses and watch the Cartoon Network while
> > aging homophobic hillbillies carried the day. You voted with the
> > exact same anemic percentage that you did in 2000. You s***.
> > Seriously, y'do. [Cheers, applause] Thank you. Thank you very much.
> >
> >
> > There are some who would say that I sound bitter, that now is the
> > time for healing, to bring the nation together. Let me tell you a
> > little story. Last night, I watched the returns come in with some
> > friends here in Los Angeles. As the night progressed, people began
> > to talk half-seriously about secession, a red state / blue state
> > split. The reasoning was this: We in blue states produce the vast
> > majority of the wealth in this country and pay the most taxes, and
> > you in the red states receive the majority of the money from those
> > taxes while complaining about 'em. We in the blue states are the
> > only ones who've been attacked by foreign terrorists, yet you in the
> > red states are gung ho to fight a war in our name. We in the blue
> > states produce the entertainment that you consume so greedily each
> > day, while you in the red states show open disdain for us and our
> > values. Blue state civilians are the actual victims and targets of
> > the war on terror, while red state civilians are the ones standing behind us and yelling "Oh, yeah!? Bring it on!"
> >
> >
> > More than 40% of you Bush voters still believe that Saddam Hussein
> > had something to do with 9/11. I'm impressed by that, truly I am.
> > Your sons and daughters who might die in this war know it's not
> > true, the people in the urban centers where al Qaeda wants to attack
> > know it's not true, but those of you who are at practically no risk
> > believe this easy lie because you can. As part of my concession
> > speech, let me say that I really envy that luxury. I concede that.
> >
> >
> > Healing? We, the people at risk from terrorists, the people who
> > subsidize you, the people who speak in glowing and respectful terms
> > about the heartland of America while that heartland insults and
> > excoriates us... we wanted some healing. We spoke loud and clear.
> > And you refused to give it to us, largely because of your high moral values.
> > You knew better: America doesn't need its allies, doesn't need to
> > share the burden, doesn't need to unite the world, doesn't need to
> > provide for its future. Hell no. Not when it's got a human shield of
> > pointy-headed, atheistic, unconfrontational breadwinners who are
> > willing to pay the bills and play nice in the vain hope of winning a
> > vote that we can never have. Because we're "morally inferior," I
> > suppose, we are supposed to respect your values while you insult
> > ours. And the big joke here is that for 20 years, we've done just that.
> >
> >
> > It's not a "ha-ha" funny joke, I realize, but it's a joke all the same.
> >
> >
> > Being an independent candidate gives me one luxury - as well as
> > conceding the election today, I am also announcing my candidacy for
> > President in 2008. [Wild applause, screams, chants of "Fel-ber!
> > Fel-ber!] Thank you.
> >
> >
> > And I make this pledge to you today: THIS time, next time, there
> > will be no pandering. This time I will run with all the open and
> > joking contempt for my opponents that our President demonstrated
> > towards the cradle of liberty, the Ivy League intellectuals, the
> > "media elite," and the "white-wine sippers." This time I will not
> > pretend that the simple folk of America know just as much as the
> > people who devote their lives to serving and studying the nation and the world. They don't.
> >
> >
> > So that's why I'm asking for your vote in 2008, America. I'm talking
> > to you, you ignorant, slack-jawed yokels, you bible-thumping, inbred
> > drones, you redneck, racist, grade-school grads. Vote for me,
> > because I know better, and I truly believe that I can help your smug, sorry asses.
> > Vote Felber in '08! Thank you, and may God, if he does in fact
> > exist, bless each and every one of you.
> >

Touch O Parrotdise · Post by **Touch O Parrotdise** » November 9, 2004 7:17 pm

i would like to thank from the bottom of my heart...micheal moore.. al franken.. janine garafalo.. to name a few... please do the same and more in 2008...we couldn't have done it without you

12vmanRick · Post by **12vmanRick** » November 9, 2004 7:32 pm

I like what Toby Keith said "I'm a democrat. I support the troups. Because I support the troups I have to support their Commander-in-Chief". Ya know what. I don't care what party you are THAT should be your attitude!!!

But.. some people just won't give up. I had a friend from California say "if my father wasn't alive I would seriously consider moving to Canada". I said "Bye". Love this country, support this country or leave.

Meli - this isn't for you so don't take it personally. It's just a statement/observation of a lot of what I have seen from people.

ragtopW · Post by **ragtopW** » November 9, 2004 8:55 pm

My favorite Class in college was "how to lie with statistics"

any poll can be played with.

UAHparrothead · Post by **UAHparrothead** » November 9, 2004 8:58 pm

Elrod wrote:I'm not trying to start a fire here, but I found these very interesting

lol

citcat · Post by **citcat** » November 9, 2004 9:23 pm

What's that smell?

CaptainP · Post by **CaptainP** » November 9, 2004 9:26 pm

ragtopW wrote:My favorite Class in college was "how to lie with statistics"

any poll can be played with.

MelliJellyBean · Post by **MelliJellyBean** » November 9, 2004 9:43 pm

12vmanRick wrote:I like what Toby Keith said "I'm a democrat. I support the troups. Because I support the troups I have to support their Commander-in-Chief". Ya know what. I don't care what party you are THAT should be your attitude!!!

But.. some people just won't give up. I had a friend from California say "if my father wasn't alive I would seriously consider moving to Canada". I said "Bye". Love this country, support this country or leave.

Meli - this isn't for you so don't take it personally. It's just a statement/observation of a lot of what I have seen from people.

RAGTOP · Post by **RAGTOP** » November 10, 2004 9:31 am

here's a fun read... again I do not support Bush or Kerry, I gave up on this species a longtime ago...

http://www.vdare.com/sailer/kerry_iq_lower.htm

mexcooker12 · Post by **mexcooker12** » November 10, 2004 9:40 am

Although the IQ article may prove to be false, kerry did win the states that would consider the "intellectual" states. These being New England, New York, and California. Virginia and Ohio and possibly parts of Texas are the only areas that Bush won that could be considered highly "intellectual"