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longlinergirl · Post by **longlinergirl** » January 28, 2005 9:47 pm

WEll my aunt sent me a package for Christmas, and accidentally sent it to my old address. So I went to my old address to ask if they received it and they sais no. I asked if they did get it to call me and left my number. I never received a call and just figured it was never delivered or they returned it knowing I was looking for it. Well it was insured so my aunt has been delaing with the post office and someone told het that you could cancel the card if it had not been used to get your money back or a new card. So she called and sure enough, it had been spent. They could tell her the date and time and everything when it had been spent. I plan on going to the house and asking them about before I go to the cops. Is it worth going to the cops? I mean isnt it like mail tampering, and larceny and stuff??? What do I do????????

PHAW Webmistress · Post by **PHAW Webmistress** » January 28, 2005 9:50 pm

longlinergirl wrote:WEll my aunt sent me a package for Christmas, and accidentally sent it to my old address. So I went to my old address to ask if they received it and they sais no. I asked if they did get it to call me and left my number. I never received a call and just figured it was never delivered or they returned it knowing I was looking for it. Well it was insured so my aunt has been delaing with the post office and someone told het that you could cancel the card if it had not been used to get your money back or a new card. So she called and sure enough, it had been spent. They could tell her the date and time and everything when it had been spent. I plan on going to the house and asking them about before I go to the cops. Is it worth going to the cops? I mean isnt it like mail tampering, and larceny and stuff??? What do I do????????

definitely mail fraud - as for larceny - depends on the value of the card - I'd DEFINITELY go to the cops. Did anyone go with you when you went to the old address the first time? Thinking witnesses here.....

Sorry it happened to you!

PHAW Webmistress · Post by **PHAW Webmistress** » January 28, 2005 9:51 pm

P.S. in addition to reporting it to the cops also report it to the postmaster general.... sometimes they're more of force to reckon with too

VB for Buffett · Post by **VB for Buffett** » January 28, 2005 9:51 pm

confront them one more time....and....if they deny again be mad as hell and go to the cops with a fury....

.......on the other hand dealing with the cops would be a pain in the ass as well........

longlinergirl · Post by **longlinergirl** » January 28, 2005 9:55 pm

I certainly will go to the Post Office, as well...if they don't do it themselves as my aunt has filed the missing package claim. No, no one went with me...

PHAW Webmistress · Post by **PHAW Webmistress** » January 28, 2005 9:58 pm

If I'm not mistaken - when you use gift cards - they make you sign a slip just like a credit card - more evidence perhaps

longlinergirl · Post by **longlinergirl** » January 28, 2005 10:01 pm

PHAW Webmistress wrote:If I'm not mistaken - when you use gift cards - they make you sign a slip just like a credit card - more evidence perhaps

Not that I know of..but since they know the date and time, I presume they could figure out the register as well and see video of it...Not that they would go through all that for $100 gift card...but maybe. I know th epost office isn't to happy about have ing to give my aunt money so they may be the ones to crack down!! That would be awesome as mail stuff is federal

F with me will ya

ragtopW · Post by **ragtopW** » January 28, 2005 11:19 pm

do not and I repete do not go and ask them about it
if something happens it will be your fault.
I can't believe I just typed that.
go to the Post Office those jokers er investigaters there can earn their pay . And if go to court you can taunt from there.

longlinergirl · Post by **longlinergirl** » January 28, 2005 11:26 pm

ragtopW wrote:do not and I repete do not go and ask them about it
if something happens it will be your fault.
I can't believe I just typed that.
go to the Post Office those jokers er investigaters there can earn their pay . And if go to court you can taunt from there.

Anything like what??? I just would rather work it out without the cops or the Postal Inspector (is that really a title) or anything like that. But if they want to F with me I certainly will be going to someone.

citcat · Post by **citcat** » January 28, 2005 11:26 pm

That could be a federal offense. They stole your mail. I kept getting someone else's mail (it was the mailwoman's fault), a couple of times it was their CREDIT CARD BILL!

If I had kept it, and got caught, I woulda gone to jail. These people also got MY mail, mistakenly...good thing we're both honest people, huh? The mailwoman apologized to us, but did it a few more times anyway. SHEESH!

longlinergirl · Post by **longlinergirl** » January 28, 2005 11:30 pm

citcat wrote:That could be a federal offense. They stole your mail. I kept getting someone else's mail (it was the mailwoman's fault), a couple of times it was their CREDIT CARD BILL! If I had kept it, and got caught, I woulda gone to jail. These people also got MY mail, mistakenly...good thing we're both honest people, huh? The mailwoman apologized to us, but did it a few more times anyway. SHEESH!

That happens to me a lot the getting my neighbors mail...I am #6 andhe is 16...DUH...anyway, one time I got his meds he gets by mail from the VA...
(Nothing good though)

But I wouldnt keep it. Especially if someone KNEW it was supposed to come there...jeeze doesn't anyone watch CSI anymore...like we won't track you down

ragtopW · Post by **ragtopW** » January 29, 2005 12:30 am

longlinergirl wrote:
ragtopW wrote:do not and I repete do not go and ask them about it
if something happens it will be your fault.
I can't believe I just typed that.
go to the Post Office those jokers er investigaters there can earn their pay . And if go to court you can taunt from there.

Anything like what??? I just would rather work it out without the cops or the Postal Inspector (is that really a title) or anything like that. But if they want to F with me I certainly will be going to someone.

That is what I'm talking about, If the situation turns south YOU will be charged as the troublemaker. and the cops will cut you no slack

we are not talking about you and neighbor,where you will take the "lost" mail over to them. we are talking about
something that did not get returned and did not get sent back
My sis just got off a job where she spent a lot of time with the PO
and she told me to tell you. "let the Post office sort it out."
fill out the insurance forms and let the whole thing go from there.

OH and taunt them when they are in court.

longlinergirl · Post by **longlinergirl** » January 29, 2005 9:51 am

OK OK I won't go there, but I do plan on calling the police as well as the post office.

pbans · Post by **pbans** » January 29, 2005 11:24 am

Ask to speak to the local Postal Inspector.
File a report with your local police.....we deal with these sorts of things quite often. If it hasn't been too long since the card was used, the store it was used at may have video and be able to determine it really was the turds at your old apartment. Most larger department stores keep their video for at least 45 days.
After all that, let's just go beat them up.....stealing a Christmas present, that's cold.

CaptainP · Post by **CaptainP** » January 29, 2005 11:54 am

PHAW Webmistress wrote:If I'm not mistaken - when you use gift cards - they make you sign a slip just like a credit card - more evidence perhaps

True. And if they signed your name, that's forgery...a FELONY! (I put someone in jail for this once!)

buffettbride · Post by **buffettbride** » January 29, 2005 12:00 pm

CaptainP wrote:
PHAW Webmistress wrote:If I'm not mistaken - when you use gift cards - they make you sign a slip just like a credit card - more evidence perhaps
True. And if they signed your name, that's forgery...a FELONY! (I put someone in jail for this once!)

That would depend on the type of "Gift Card". Some require it, some don't. The more credit-card style gift cards will require it but it probably varies from retailer to retailer how they handle it. I hope they FRY! Just kidding! But I definitely think legal action is warranted! Also, confronting them again may encourage them to "get rid of the evidence" of whatever they purchased if they know something's up.

SchoolGirlHeart · Post by **SchoolGirlHeart** » January 29, 2005 12:16 pm

I definitely would NOT go to the house again.... lots of bad things could happen, and nothing good......

there's also the remote possibility that the package was either stolen enroute or stolen from their porch.

I like the idea of checking for video at the store where the card was used. But let the police do it.....

Wino you know · Post by **Wino you know** » January 29, 2005 12:34 pm

pbans wrote:Ask to speak to the local Postal Inspector.
File a report with your local police.....we deal with these sorts of things quite often. If it hasn't been too long since the card was used, the store it was used at may have video and be able to determine it really was the turds at your old apartment. Most larger department stores keep their video for at least 45 days.
After all that, let's just go beat them up.....stealing a Christmas present, that's cold.

DEFINATELY DEFINATELY GO TO THE POLICE AND POSTMASTER.
THESE PEOPLE TOOK SOMETHING THAT DIDN'T BELONG TO THEM, USED IT, AND THAT IS THEFT!
AND, SINCE IT'S U.S. MAIL INVOLVED, IT'S A FEDERAL OFFENSE.
LET'S GIVE THESE PEOPLE THE PUNISHMENT THEY DESERVE!

I'm all for beating them up too.

longlinergirl · Post by **longlinergirl** » January 30, 2005 10:28 am

Ok so I went to the police and filed a report. A few hours later a HOT hot cop (did I mention he was hot) came to the house and said they of course said they didn't know anything. What I didn't remember before was that all packages go to a locked mailbox at the end of the street (well its been a few years since I lived there, I just forgot). Anyway, the cop has only been on the force for a few months so this will be his first "bust" and since its a FEDERAL crime he is all excited. Anyway so he is working even on his days off to go to Target and get the video tape of the register where the card was cashed. He was appaled that someone would steal Christmas presents...he also has kids so he noticed when I put down that someone stole an Elmo dvd...lol. Anyway, I'll keep you updated!!!! Also since he is new, he wasn't sure which crimes had been commited, so as a 4th year crim jus student we made up a list...Mail tampering, petty larceney, obstruction of justice (lying to the hot cop). Can ya think of anything else???

lovin_jimmy · Post by **lovin_jimmy** » January 30, 2005 11:33 am

longlinergirl wrote:a HOT hot cop (did I mention he was hot)

by hot, im guessing you are not talking about mad ??

any chance you could get a pic? you know, for um, documentation, yea, you need proof you talked to the cops

keep us updated, it is starting to sound like a soap opera

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