5th Grader Gets Detention For Doing the Right Thing

Gypsy In The Palace · Post by **Gypsy In The Palace** » February 5, 2005 2:53 am

I guess it's never too early to learn that life isn't fair: http://www.kctv5.com/Global/story.asp?S ... v=1PubVshc

Lastplaneout · Post by **Lastplaneout** » February 5, 2005 3:29 am

Good god..what a buncho of asshats...He uses his boy scout good deeds morals and gets reared for it...jeezus...good thing he didn't draw a picture...they might have arrested him

Sidew13 · Post by **Sidew13** » February 5, 2005 5:00 am

That's a load of BS. What is this world coming to??

BahamaBreeze · Post by **BahamaBreeze** » February 5, 2005 7:20 am

"School officials chose a light punishment because he was a good kid, but he needed a message about what he did wrong, the principal said."

So they taught him NOT to do what is right?

BahamaBreeze · Post by **BahamaBreeze** » February 5, 2005 7:29 am

Did you notice on that article that the newspaper put a link on there to the kid's school?

http://www.nkcsd.k12.mo.us/schools/oakwood.shtml?s

Was that because the principle's email addy is listed there??

Elrod · Post by **Elrod** » February 5, 2005 7:55 am

He oughta start hangin' out with those girls from Colorado that got sued for leaving a plate of cookies on the neighbor's doorstep.

If Frasier had stayed off the bus and waited for an adult to secure the weapon, his absence would have counted against Oakwood Manor Elementary's average daily attendance resulting in less money for the school.

I hope that Ms. Wasserman keeps this in mind next time she starts crying about funding.

Ilph · Post by **Ilph** » February 5, 2005 8:58 am

How rediculous

st.somewhere · Post by **st.somewhere** » February 5, 2005 10:06 am

My guess is that lil' Fraiser planted the toy gun and then told everyone because he's starved for attention...

Well, his grand plan backfired... Didn't it? Muuu-Ha-Ha-Ha-Haaa!!!

VB for Buffett · Post by **VB for Buffett** » February 5, 2005 10:07 am

Gypsy In The Palace wrote:I guess it's never too early to learn that life isn't fair: http://www.kctv5.com/Global/story.asp?S ... v=1PubVshc

I do beleive his suspension was unfair.........however I do understand where the principal was coming from.........it could have been a potentialy dangerous situation........she was going by the book in her decision....................and she was looking after her job.............

Saying that........f.....uck her.......the kid was trying to save lives and do what he has learned from the scouts...............he's a high class kid.................

Fins up Frasier

DonnaKayDunbar · Post by **DonnaKayDunbar** » February 5, 2005 10:07 am

I'm sure the "right thing to do" would be to leave the gun there and have some other kid who wasn't as honest and good pick it up and kill someone, right?

What are they THINKING?

RinglingRingling · Post by **RinglingRingling** » February 5, 2005 10:24 am

this is about like the kid a couple years ago who was taking stuff to the local food bank/shelter in some little hick town in GA. Someone saw a knife, in a box that was sitting on the seat inside a locked truck, and turned the kid in.

The principal suspended the kid for the remainder of the school year for bringing a weapon onto school grounds.

Drawback: kid needed to take his finals to qualify for a full-ride scholarship to college in the fall. Principal, and the district Superintendent both stated that there was a zero-tolerance policy for weapons, and they were justified.

End result: one fewer college-educated individual in GA, and proof that school officials are idiots.

ph4ever · Post by **ph4ever** » February 5, 2005 10:37 am

Well that just s u c k s for a kid to try to do the right thing and then get in trouble. I think his ideal about missing the bus and taking it to his mom would be the right thing to do in the future considering the school principal is a moron who can't figure out that the kid was actually doing what he was taught to do and doing the right thing.

RinglingRingling · Post by **RinglingRingling** » February 5, 2005 10:41 am

ph4ever wrote:Well that just s u c k s for a kid to try to do the right thing and then get in trouble. I think his ideal about missing the bus and taking it to his mom would be the right thing to do in the future considering the school principal is a moron who can't figure out that the kid was actually doing what he was taught to do and doing the right thing.

the kid's mom and dad could always just waylay the principal after school and teach her a lesson using a couple bricks in a burlap sack too...

krusin1 · Post by **krusin1** » February 5, 2005 10:56 am

I'm a school administrator, and got to say, what the principal did here is WEAK.

In her defense, school admin. gets pummeled with all sorts of warnings about lawsuits, follow the book, etc. etc. etc. Can beat you down if you let it.

Still, admin. is also given (legally) quite a bit of leeway to make judgements about what to do, and courts usually support them.

Maybe it's just that I'm from a small school, or have been at this long enough that lawyers don't scare me much, but I think the kid needs a pat on the back. No way he'd have gotten so much as a slap on the wrist from me.

And... that's all I have to say about that.

lovin_jimmy · Post by **lovin_jimmy** » February 5, 2005 11:18 am

VB for Buffett wrote:
Gypsy In The Palace wrote:I guess it's never too early to learn that life isn't fair: http://www.kctv5.com/Global/story.asp?S ... v=1PubVshc

I do beleive his suspension was unfair.........however I do understand where the principal was coming from.........it could have been a potentialy dangerous situation........she was going by the book in her decision....................and she was looking after her job.............

Saying that........f.....uck her.......the kid was trying to save lives and do what he has learned from the scouts...............he's a high class kid.................

Fins up Frasier

it was a days DEtention not SUSPention, i think the kid was trying to do the right thing, but what if it was real? he took it onto a bus full of kids and told them about it. any one of those kids could have tried to take it away from him and who knows what would happpen? he then brouhgt it onto school property....duh! so he had to stay after school, big deal. he got a slap on the wrist, and hes not going to take guns to school anymore. it would have been worse if he were in high school

SchoolGirlHeart · Post by **SchoolGirlHeart** » February 5, 2005 1:27 pm

Guess I'm not going to be in the majority on this one....

While he was trying to do the right thing, he still never should have touched it. He should have gone back home and had an adult come and deal with it. As LJ said, what if it had been real, and what if a kid on the bus had taken it away, or tried to? There could have been a tragedy...

Having said that, I also think the school handled it poorly. He was clearly trying to do what he thought was best, and a discussion about how he might have handled the situation differently would have had a much more positive impact.

Now, having said that, he only got a slap on the wrist. He wasn't suspended or expelled, as I'm willing to bet COULD have happened under school rules. He got one day's detention; the same punishment my keet got for talking too much in class. A token slap on the wrist.

Everyone screwed up on this one, IMHO. I hope they all can take away some lessons learned.......

RinglingRingling · Post by **RinglingRingling** » February 5, 2005 2:59 pm

SchoolGirlHeart wrote:Guess I'm not going to be in the majority on this one....

While he was trying to do the right thing, he still never should have touched it. He should have gone back home and had an adult come and deal with it. As LJ said, what if it had been real, and what if a kid on the bus had taken it away, or tried to? There could have been a tragedy...

Having said that, I also think the school handled it poorly. He was clearly trying to do what he thought was best, and a discussion about how he might have handled the situation differently would have had a much more positive impact.

Now, having said that, he only got a slap on the wrist. He wasn't suspended or expelled, as I'm willing to bet COULD have happened under school rules. He got one day's detention; the same punishment my keet got for talking too much in class. A token slap on the wrist.

Everyone screwed up on this one, IMHO. I hope they all can take away some lessons learned.......

sad thing is, you expect a 5th grader to make mistakes like that. Lack of experience and the like. (and there was also the conflicting message of "this is dangerous, I should tell an adult" AND "if I go find an adult, I'll be late for school after missing the bus).

The adults that issued the detention should have had more sense

BahamaBreeze · Post by **BahamaBreeze** » February 5, 2005 3:36 pm

She did go light on the kid compared to what he could have gotten if this was the real deal of bring a gun to school.

I guess she had to send a message that you will be punished because...

What if another child brings a gun to school "claiming to find it" (stealing it from his uncle). He brings it to shoot his teacher or a classmate but changes his mind and takes it to the office, know he won't get into any trouble.

It leaves the door open for using the excuse "you found it"?

SchoolGirlHeart · Post by **SchoolGirlHeart** » February 5, 2005 4:10 pm

RinglingRingling wrote:sad thing is, you expect a 5th grader to make mistakes like that. Lack of experience and the like. (and there was also the conflicting message of "this is dangerous, I should tell an adult" AND "if I go find an adult, I'll be late for school after missing the bus).

The adults that issued the detention should have had more sense

Exactly. Which is why I wish the message to him had been more positive.

"Good intention. But maybe you should have taken action a little differently."

job41475 · Post by **job41475** » February 6, 2005 12:56 pm

Hey that story is from soon to be new home town. Hope this isn't the kind of stuff I have to look forward to in KC.

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