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Sorry Yankees,dumb Braves

Orioles, Mazzone agree on three-year deal


BALTIMORE (AP) - Pitching coach Leo Mazzone and the Baltimore Orioles reached agreement on a three-year contract Wednesday night, hours after the Atlanta Braves coach ended discussions with the New York Yankees.

"The deal is finished business," according to a source close to the negotiations, who spoke to The Associated Press on the condition of anonymity.



Mazzone, considered to be one of the finest pitching coaches in the majors, has been in the Atlanta organization since 1979 and was pitching coach of the Braves since 1990. He will replace Ray Miller, who served as pitching coach of the Orioles since June 26, 2004.

Orioles executive vice president Mike Flanagan declined comment, and Baltimore manager Sam Perlozzo, a longtime friend of Mazzone, did not return a phone call from The Associated Press.

Mazzone, 57, and Perlozzo grew up together in Cumberland, Md. The competed on different teams in American Legion ball, then became best friends. Perlozzo was the best man at Mazzone's wedding.

Earlier Wednesday, the Yankees ended talks with Mazzone after their three-day window to negotiate with him expired.

"Both sides agreed to end their discussions without resolution," Yankees spokesman Jason Zillo said.

Mazzone is credited with helping develop Greg Maddux, John Smoltz and Tom Glavine. From 1992 through this season, the Braves ranked first or second in the NL in ERA in every year but two.

Perlozzo was pleased with Miller's performance as pitching coach, but has said he wanted to work with Mazzone. Miller, who had surgery last week to repair an aortic aneurysm, gave Perlozzo permission to talk to another pitching coach before his surgery.

SMLCHNG wrote:

ejr wrote:

BadHabitsAcctnt wrote:Understood, and I would never ask anyone to give up what they believe is important. Let's just hope it is not a spectacle of the umpires and the players are allowed to determine the outcome. Go Sox go!

Yeah, the umpires have been especially bad this year!

Yep... the tag out at 2nd base on the Cards? He soooo did NOT tag him. Should have gone to the 1st base ump for a confirmation.

Yeah, that was a bad call.

Congratulations to the Astros. They were the better team in this series.


That being said, Go Sox!!!

jonesbeach10 wrote:

Ilph wrote:

CaptainP wrote:This is why I HATE the Yankees and George Steinbrenner.....the arrogance.

Now that pitching coach Mel Stottlemeyer has left the team, Steinbrenner is targeting Braves pitching coach Leo Mazzone to replace him.


Mazzone has loyally served Bobby Cox for a long, long, time, and has never shown any inclination that he would like to leave. But George thinks, "We're the Yankees, we can have anyone we want" so he believes that Mazzone will throw out long-time loyalties and jump ship, just because they are the Yankmees.

Heaven forbid the Yankees actually try and build their own team. Just go out and buy what's been working for everyone else. Do they even HAVE a farm team?

No, they plucked Robbie Cano and Chien Ming Wang off the streets.

And the rest of their team came from.....

jonesbeach10 wrote:

Ilph wrote:

CaptainP wrote:This is why I HATE the Yankees and George Steinbrenner.....the arrogance.

Now that pitching coach Mel Stottlemeyer has left the team, Steinbrenner is targeting Braves pitching coach Leo Mazzone to replace him.


Mazzone has loyally served Bobby Cox for a long, long, time, and has never shown any inclination that he would like to leave. But George thinks, "We're the Yankees, we can have anyone we want" so he believes that Mazzone will throw out long-time loyalties and jump ship, just because they are the Yankmees.

Heaven forbid the Yankees actually try and build their own team. Just go out and buy what's been working for everyone else. Do they even HAVE a farm team?

No, they plucked Robbie Cano and Chien Ming Wang off the streets.

Nevermind the fact that Jeter, Rivera, Posada, Williams and Proctor have never played for any other ML team either.

Ilph wrote:

SMLCHNG wrote:

ejr wrote:

BadHabitsAcctnt wrote:Understood, and I would never ask anyone to give up what they believe is important. Let's just hope it is not a spectacle of the umpires and the players are allowed to determine the outcome. Go Sox go!

Yeah, the umpires have been especially bad this year!

Yep... the tag out at 2nd base on the Cards? He soooo did NOT tag him. Should have gone to the 1st base ump for a confirmation.

Yeah, that was a bad call.

It was a questionable call. Could LaRussa have asked for a conference of umpires?

aeroparrot wrote:

Ilph wrote:

SMLCHNG wrote:

ejr wrote:

BadHabitsAcctnt wrote:Understood, and I would never ask anyone to give up what they believe is important. Let's just hope it is not a spectacle of the umpires and the players are allowed to determine the outcome. Go Sox go!

Yeah, the umpires have been especially bad this year!

Yep... the tag out at 2nd base on the Cards? He soooo did NOT tag him. Should have gone to the 1st base ump for a confirmation.

Yeah, that was a bad call.

It was a questionable call. Could LaRussa have asked for a conference of umpires?

He probably did......judgement call and he was in the right position to make the call.......he missed it , but i'm sure others would of.......he was screened...... and give credit to I think it was Everett for selling the play

tequilatom wrote:

aeroparrot wrote:

Ilph wrote:

SMLCHNG wrote:

ejr wrote:

BadHabitsAcctnt wrote:Understood, and I would never ask anyone to give up what they believe is important. Let's just hope it is not a spectacle of the umpires and the players are allowed to determine the outcome. Go Sox go!

Yeah, the umpires have been especially bad this year!

Yep... the tag out at 2nd base on the Cards? He soooo did NOT tag him. Should have gone to the 1st base ump for a confirmation.

Yeah, that was a bad call.

It was a questionable call. Could LaRussa have asked for a conference of umpires?

He probably did......judgement call and he was in the right position to make the call.......he missed it , but i'm sure others would of.......he was screened...... and give credit to I think it was Everett for selling the play

It didn't seem like he was. Now, I am not saying he should be yelling but it seemed too quick of a discussion.

Seasons Played without WINNING the World Series:
** = Have never won

BOSTON RED SOX: 1
FLORIDA MARLINS: 2
ANAHEIM ANGELS: 3
ARIZONA DIAMONDBACKS: 4
NEW YORK YANKMEES: 5
TAMPA BAY DEVIL RAYS: 8**
ATLANTA BRAVES: 10
TORONTO BLUE JAYS: 12
COLORADO ROCKIES: 12**
MINNESOTA TWINS: 14
CINCINNATI REDS: 15
OAKLAND ATHLETICS: 16
LOS ANGELES DODGERS: 17
NEW YORK METS: 19
KANSAS CITY ROYALS: 20
DETROIT TIGERS: 21
BALTIMORE ORIOLES: 22
ST. LOUIS CARDINALS: 23
PHILADELPHIA PHILLIES: 25
PITTSBURGH PIRATES: 26
SEATTLE MARINERS: 28**
MILWAUKEE BREWERS/SEATTLE PILOTS: 36 **
SAN DIEGO PADRES: 36**
WASHINGTON NATIONALS/MONTREAL EXPOS: 36**
HOUSTON ASTROS: 43**
TEXAS RANGERS/WASHINGTON SENATORS: 43**
SAN FRANSISCO/NEW YORK GIANTS: 51
CLEVELAND INDIANS: 57
CHICAGO WHITE SOX: 88
CHICAGO CUBS: 97


As of TODAY, seasons played without PLAYING IN the World Series:
** = Have never been to the World Series

BOSTON RED SOX: 1
ST. LOUIS CARDINALS: 1
FLORIDA MARLINS: 2
NEW YORK YANKEES: 2
SAN FRANSISCO GIANTS: 3
ANAHEIM ANGELS: 3
ARIZONA DIAMONDBACKS: 4
NEW YORK METS: 5
ATLANTA BRAVES: 6
SAN DIEGO PADRES: 7
CLEVELAND INDIANS: 8
TAMPA BAY DEVIL RAYS: 8**
TORONTO BLUE JAYS: 12
PHILADELPHIA PHILLIES: 12
COLORADO ROCKIES: 12**
MINNESOTA TWINS: 14
CINCINNATI REDS: 15
OAKLAND ATHLETICS: 15
LOS ANGELES DODGERS: 17
KANSAS CITY ROYALS: 20
DETROIT TIGERS: 21
BALTIMORE ORIOLES: 22
MILWAUKEE BREWERS: 23
PITTSBURGH PIRATES: 26
SEATTLE MARINERS: 28**
WASHINGTON NATIONALS/MONTREAL EXPOS: 36**
HOUSTON ASTROS: 43**
TEXAS RANGERS/WASHINGTON SENATORS: 43**
CHICAGO WHITE SOX: 46
CHICAGO CUBS: 60

Holy crap on toast (thanks Ann) Batman. if 1959 was 86 years ago, then I really an 89 years old. No wonder I feel so crappy today

Cubbie Bear wrote:Holy crap on toast (thanks Ann) Batman. if 1959 was 86 years ago, then I really an 89 years old. No wonder I feel so crappy today

Whoops....fixed....

I did that on Excel, then sorted and transferred the info here....typo!!!

Don't forget, the Minnesota Twins are/were the ORIGINAL Washington Senators-who DID play in two or three World Series. (ONE that I know of-1925-the year my father was born).

Wino you know wrote:Don't forget, the Minnesota Twins are/were the ORIGINAL Washington Senators-who DID play in two or three World Series. (ONE that I know of-1925-the year my father was born).

I know....but they have won as the Twins, so I didn't list them as the Sens.

I did list the Rangers as the Senators (take 2), since they've never been to the WS.

I tried to buy shirts today---nope, sold out

CaptainP wrote:I know....but they have won as the Twins, so I didn't list them as the Sens.

I did list the Rangers as the Senators (take 2), since they've never been to the WS.

Roger, Dodger, Codger.

DANG!!

What drama in the 9th!!

Tiki Bar wrote:What drama in the 9th!!

You can say that again!!

What drama in the 9th!!

And my final thoughts on the game...

Tiki Bar wrote:DANG!!

What drama in the 9th!!

Nice comeback from Houston.. and nice HR from the Sox. Good game.