Posted: March 24, 2005 12:16 am
Still ROFLMAO
Jimmy Buffett discussion
http://www.buffettnews.com/forum/
You ok down there?FFishstick wrote:Still ROFLMAO
It's like any other close-knit group... if you ruffle feathers before folks know you, they respond. But once you settle in, it's an amazing bunch.FFishstick wrote:Still ROFLMAO
ejr wrote:Just as a reminder of how quick life can change...yesterday I got word about a tragedy for a professional acquaintance of mine (he is President of my professional association). He, his wife and another couple are in Florida vacationing. Sunday night they were involved in a car accident; the vehicle they were in rolled over. My acquaintance walked away with few injuries, but his wife has massive brain damage, multiple fractures, and is critical condition in a drug-induced coma, probably not expected to survive.
Life is fleeting---treasure it, and be prepared!!!
Shut up Hippie.Key Lime Lee wrote:I still think it's one of the friendliest groups around...
a1aara wrote:PRESS RELEASE ** PRESS RELEASE ** PRESS RELEASE
For Immediate Release
March 23, 2005
Americans United for Separation of Church and State
Contact: Rob Boston or Jeremy Leaming
202.466.3234 telephone
202.466.2587 fax
www.au.org
AMERICANS UNITED BLASTS CONGRESSIONAL LEADERS' PROMISE TO
PUSH RELIGIOUS RIGHT AGENDA
In Closed-Door Briefings, Frist, DeLay Cement Ties With
Religious Right On Schiavo Case, Judges, Abortion, Marriage,
Church Politicking, Ethics Complaints
Top congressional leaders have promised to push the
Religious Right agenda on judicial nominations, church
politicking, abortion, marriage and the Terri Schiavo case,
according to Americans United for Separation of Church and
State.
Americans United today released audiotapes of closed-door
addresses by Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist and House
Majority Leader Tom DeLay to a Family Research Council (FRC)
gathering March 17-18 at Washington, D.C.'s Willard Hotel.
The pair talked about a range of political issues, using the
Schiavo case as a springboard.
"Religious Right leaders are determined to run all of our
lives, from the moment of conception through the end of
life," said the Rev. Barry W. Lynn, Americans United
executive director. "And top congressional leaders are
conspiring behind closed doors in Washington to help them do
it. It's appalling.
"Frist and DeLay have wrapped sanctimonious language around
political posturing," said Lynn. "They are using Mrs.
Schiavo's personal tragedy in Florida to burnish their
credentials with an increasingly powerful component of the
Republican Party. It's a sad, cynical political ploy."
Mrs. Schiavo, a Florida woman, has been in a persistent
vegetative state for 15 years. Her husband, Michael Schiavo,
has fought a long legal battle to remove her feeding tube.
Religious Right forces and their allies in Congress and
Florida government have repeatedly tried to intervene in the
situation, despite medical advice and court decisions that
support Mr. Schiavo.
During the FRC meeting, Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist
(R-Tenn.) and House Majority Leader Tom DeLay (R-Texas)
assured attendees that they would do what it takes to keep
Schiavo connected to a feeding tube and also would exert
great power to push a whole host of issues central to the
Religious Right's agenda.
DeLay urged the gathering to contact lawmakers in both
chambers to support legislation that would allow churches to
become much more involved in partisan politicking. The
Texas Republican blasted current federal tax law, which bars
both secular and religious nonprofit groups from endorsing
political candidates.
"It forces Christians back into the church and that's what
is going on," DeLay claimed. "That's not what Christ asked
us to do. We have to fight back."
Beyond swearing allegiance to the Religious Right's agenda,
DeLay, who has faced increased attention for alleged ethics
violations, also bemoaned "personal attacks" against him and
other conservative leaders and said the Schiavo case would
highlight those attacks.
"One thing that God has brought to us is Terri Schiavo, to
help elevate the visibility of what is going on in America,"
DeLay told the crowd.
"This is exactly the issue that is going on in America, of
attacks against the conservative movement, against me and
against many others," DeLay said. He
complained that "the other side" was leading the attack,
with a goal "to defeat the conservative movement."
According to DeLay, a "whole syndicate" of "do-gooder"
forces are arrayed against him in "a huge nationwide
concerted effort to destroy everything we believe in."
FRC President Tony Perkins assured DeLay of the group's
support and asked audience members to contact Republican
lawmakers and demand that they back the House majority
leader.
Americans United's Lynn said, "It is dishonorable for Rep.
DeLay to use the Schiavo case and cloak himself in Christian
piety in order to evade accountability on ethics
complaints."
Frist also told the FRC attendees that he was dedicated to
issues dear to their hearts.
"You stand up for our families, our children, you never back
down," Frist told the gathering via speakerphone. "That's
why we are winning these larger battles today. Together we
are leading our nation forward. We have a president, a House
of Representatives, a Senate that shares our values and the
American people are on our side.
"In this Congress we are going to continue to work on the
issues that are important to you, to me and above all,
America's future," Frist continued.
Those issues include, Frist maintained, the confirmation of
"good judges," protecting the "sanctity of marriage" and
protecting "the unborn." He said, "I'm also committed to
ending the [Senate Democratic] minority's filibuster [on
judges] and restoring this 220 years or more of Senate
tradition and history."
Frist was particularly adamant about fighting for a Federal
Marriage Amendment, saying that, "We will take action to
preserve and protect and defend the sanctity of marriage
between a man and a woman."
Americans United's Lynn said the comments by DeLay and Frist
prove that Congress is beholden to the Religious Right's
narrow vision for America.
"I find it appalling that top leaders of Congress are using
the Schiavo tragedy to nurture their Religious Right base,"
Lynn said. "I am confident that the American people do not
want their personal lives subjected to interference from
Congress and their Religious Right allies."
Americans United is a religious liberty watchdog group based
in Washington, D.C. Founded in 1947, the organization
educates Americans about the importance of church-state
separation in safeguarding religious freedom.
________________________________________________________________________
LISTEN NOW at www.au.org
Beth Corbin
National Field Director
Americans United for Separation of Church and State
518 C Street, NE
Washington, DC 20002
PH: 202-466-3234
FAX: 202-466-2587
corbin@au.org
AUcorbin@aol.com
www.au.org
I agree wholeheartedly, however with the caveat that you get out of it what put into it. If someone comes running in acting like a complete a$$, they best expect to be treated as such.Key Lime Lee wrote:I still think it's one of the friendliest groups around...
PHBeerman wrote:a1aara wrote:PRESS RELEASE ** PRESS RELEASE ** PRESS RELEASE
For Immediate Release
March 23, 2005
Americans United for Separation of Church and State
Contact: Rob Boston or Jeremy Leaming
202.466.3234 telephone
202.466.2587 fax
www.au.org
AMERICANS UNITED BLASTS CONGRESSIONAL LEADERS' PROMISE TO
PUSH RELIGIOUS RIGHT AGENDA
In Closed-Door Briefings, Frist, DeLay Cement Ties With
Religious Right On Schiavo Case, Judges, Abortion, Marriage,
Church Politicking, Ethics Complaints
Top congressional leaders have promised to push the
Religious Right agenda on judicial nominations, church
politicking, abortion, marriage and the Terri Schiavo case,
according to Americans United for Separation of Church and
State.
Americans United today released audiotapes of closed-door
addresses by Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist and House
Majority Leader Tom DeLay to a Family Research Council (FRC)
gathering March 17-18 at Washington, D.C.'s Willard Hotel.
The pair talked about a range of political issues, using the
Schiavo case as a springboard.
"Religious Right leaders are determined to run all of our
lives, from the moment of conception through the end of
life," said the Rev. Barry W. Lynn, Americans United
executive director. "And top congressional leaders are
conspiring behind closed doors in Washington to help them do
it. It's appalling.
"Frist and DeLay have wrapped sanctimonious language around
political posturing," said Lynn. "They are using Mrs.
Schiavo's personal tragedy in Florida to burnish their
credentials with an increasingly powerful component of the
Republican Party. It's a sad, cynical political ploy."
Mrs. Schiavo, a Florida woman, has been in a persistent
vegetative state for 15 years. Her husband, Michael Schiavo,
has fought a long legal battle to remove her feeding tube.
Religious Right forces and their allies in Congress and
Florida government have repeatedly tried to intervene in the
situation, despite medical advice and court decisions that
support Mr. Schiavo.
During the FRC meeting, Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist
(R-Tenn.) and House Majority Leader Tom DeLay (R-Texas)
assured attendees that they would do what it takes to keep
Schiavo connected to a feeding tube and also would exert
great power to push a whole host of issues central to the
Religious Right's agenda.
DeLay urged the gathering to contact lawmakers in both
chambers to support legislation that would allow churches to
become much more involved in partisan politicking. The
Texas Republican blasted current federal tax law, which bars
both secular and religious nonprofit groups from endorsing
political candidates.
"It forces Christians back into the church and that's what
is going on," DeLay claimed. "That's not what Christ asked
us to do. We have to fight back."
Beyond swearing allegiance to the Religious Right's agenda,
DeLay, who has faced increased attention for alleged ethics
violations, also bemoaned "personal attacks" against him and
other conservative leaders and said the Schiavo case would
highlight those attacks.
"One thing that God has brought to us is Terri Schiavo, to
help elevate the visibility of what is going on in America,"
DeLay told the crowd.
"This is exactly the issue that is going on in America, of
attacks against the conservative movement, against me and
against many others," DeLay said. He
complained that "the other side" was leading the attack,
with a goal "to defeat the conservative movement."
According to DeLay, a "whole syndicate" of "do-gooder"
forces are arrayed against him in "a huge nationwide
concerted effort to destroy everything we believe in."
FRC President Tony Perkins assured DeLay of the group's
support and asked audience members to contact Republican
lawmakers and demand that they back the House majority
leader.
Americans United's Lynn said, "It is dishonorable for Rep.
DeLay to use the Schiavo case and cloak himself in Christian
piety in order to evade accountability on ethics
complaints."
Frist also told the FRC attendees that he was dedicated to
issues dear to their hearts.
"You stand up for our families, our children, you never back
down," Frist told the gathering via speakerphone. "That's
why we are winning these larger battles today. Together we
are leading our nation forward. We have a president, a House
of Representatives, a Senate that shares our values and the
American people are on our side.
"In this Congress we are going to continue to work on the
issues that are important to you, to me and above all,
America's future," Frist continued.
Those issues include, Frist maintained, the confirmation of
"good judges," protecting the "sanctity of marriage" and
protecting "the unborn." He said, "I'm also committed to
ending the [Senate Democratic] minority's filibuster [on
judges] and restoring this 220 years or more of Senate
tradition and history."
Frist was particularly adamant about fighting for a Federal
Marriage Amendment, saying that, "We will take action to
preserve and protect and defend the sanctity of marriage
between a man and a woman."
Americans United's Lynn said the comments by DeLay and Frist
prove that Congress is beholden to the Religious Right's
narrow vision for America.
"I find it appalling that top leaders of Congress are using
the Schiavo tragedy to nurture their Religious Right base,"
Lynn said. "I am confident that the American people do not
want their personal lives subjected to interference from
Congress and their Religious Right allies."
Americans United is a religious liberty watchdog group based
in Washington, D.C. Founded in 1947, the organization
educates Americans about the importance of church-state
separation in safeguarding religious freedom.
________________________________________________________________________
LISTEN NOW at www.au.org
Beth Corbin
National Field Director
Americans United for Separation of Church and State
518 C Street, NE
Washington, DC 20002
PH: 202-466-3234
FAX: 202-466-2587
corbin@au.org
AUcorbin@aol.com
www.au.org
BLAH BLAH BLAH. Typical Jahaar1a post. BLAH BLAH BLAH.
Is that why we treat you that way??rednekkPH wrote:I agree wholeheartedly, however with the caveat that you get out of it what put into it. If someone comes running in acting like a complete a$$, they best expect to be treated as such.Key Lime Lee wrote:I still think it's one of the friendliest groups around...
No, that's just how you deal with your (well founded) feelings of inadequacy.PHBeerman wrote:Is that why we treat you that way??rednekkPH wrote:I agree wholeheartedly, however with the caveat that you get out of it what put into it. If someone comes running in acting like a complete a$$, they best expect to be treated as such.Key Lime Lee wrote:I still think it's one of the friendliest groups around...![]()
rednekkPH wrote:No, that's just how you deal with your (well founded) feelings of inadequacy.PHBeerman wrote:Is that why we treat you that way??rednekkPH wrote:I agree wholeheartedly, however with the caveat that you get out of it what put into it. If someone comes running in acting like a complete a$$, they best expect to be treated as such.Key Lime Lee wrote:I still think it's one of the friendliest groups around...![]()
Um, because he's Shane...ph4ever wrote:rednekkPH wrote:No, that's just how you deal with your (well founded) feelings of inadequacy.PHBeerman wrote:Is that why we treat you that way??rednekkPH wrote:I agree wholeheartedly, however with the caveat that you get out of it what put into it. If someone comes running in acting like a complete a$$, they best expect to be treated as such.Key Lime Lee wrote:I still think it's one of the friendliest groups around...![]()
so is that the reason we treat Shane the way we do![]()
Correction: That is only one way I deal with my (well founded) feelings of inadequacy.rednekkPH wrote:No, that's just how you deal with your (well founded) feelings of inadequacy.PHBeerman wrote:Is that why we treat you that way??rednekkPH wrote:I agree wholeheartedly, however with the caveat that you get out of it what put into it. If someone comes running in acting like a complete a$$, they best expect to be treated as such.Key Lime Lee wrote:I still think it's one of the friendliest groups around...![]()
Well, ya gotta do what ya gotta do.PHBeerman wrote:Correction: That is only one way I deal with my (well founded) feelings of inadequacy.rednekkPH wrote:No, that's just how you deal with your (well founded) feelings of inadequacy.PHBeerman wrote:Is that why we treat you that way??rednekkPH wrote:I agree wholeheartedly, however with the caveat that you get out of it what put into it. If someone comes running in acting like a complete a$$, they best expect to be treated as such.Key Lime Lee wrote:I still think it's one of the friendliest groups around...![]()
Ellen,ejr wrote:Just as a reminder of how quick life can change...yesterday I got word about a tragedy for a professional acquaintance of mine (he is President of my professional association). He, his wife and another couple are in Florida vacationing. Sunday night they were involved in a car accident; the vehicle they were in rolled over. My acquaintance walked away with few injuries, but his wife has massive brain damage, multiple fractures, and is critical condition in a drug-induced coma, probably not expected to survive.
Life is fleeting---treasure it, and be prepared!!!