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Any parrothead car people?? I've got a question

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Hey, thanks for any help you can give. I've got a 1980 Jeep CJ-7 that wont start. Through many processes of trail and error, I've changed the battery, installed a new starter, installed a new solenoid, and changed the ignition module...but still no cranking. Its not doing anything at all...just sitting there like a huge paperweight. The gauges (voltage meter, lights) all work, so I know there is a circut going through. I also tested the lines between the battery and the solenoid, and the solenoid and the starter...all work. Still not turning over. Can anyone offer any suggestions before I take a sledgehammer to the damn thing? lol
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First of all, can you start it by jumping the selnoid?
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rednekkPH wrote:First of all, can you start it by jumping the selnoid?
That sounds fun! Can you do that to me too? :wench: :lol:
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I would call a mechanic and get it towed :)
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buffettbride wrote:
rednekkPH wrote:First of all, can you start it by jumping the selnoid?
That sounds fun! Can you do that to me too? :wench: :lol:

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ph4ever wrote: If Frank is talking about what I think Frank is talking about it's just a tad bit shocking.
Quite. ALWAYS hold the plastic handle of the screwdriver when doing this :lol:
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rednekkPH wrote:
ph4ever wrote: If Frank is talking about what I think Frank is talking about it's just a tad bit shocking.
Quite. ALWAYS hold the plastic handle of the screwdriver when doing this :lol:
yeah...i dont think i have the cohones to try that one, lol. Its a 1980, there's really not that much that could be wrong with it..lol baffling Thanks for any help you can give though
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CaribbnSoul wrote:
rednekkPH wrote:
ph4ever wrote: If Frank is talking about what I think Frank is talking about it's just a tad bit shocking.
Quite. ALWAYS hold the plastic handle of the screwdriver when doing this :lol:
yeah...i dont think i have the cohones to try that one, lol. Its a 1980, there's really not that much that could be wrong with it..lol baffling Thanks for any help you can give though
Seriously, try it. It's easy. Just bridge the gap between the 2 posts on the selenoid with a screwdriver. You'll know immediately if it will turn over or not. This will go a long way towards helping diagnose the problem.

I had a truck with a bad ignition switch years ago that I had to start that way for like 3 months.
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http://www.ultimatejeep.com also has a forum to ask questions. According to this site it could also be your voltage regulator

http://www.ultimatejeep.com/Forums/view ... =next.html
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Completely unrelated, but my hubby has an '86 CJ-7 that hasn't run since I've known him. Just sits. In the garage. We mostly use it for storage.
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rednekkPH wrote:
CaribbnSoul wrote:
rednekkPH wrote:
ph4ever wrote: If Frank is talking about what I think Frank is talking about it's just a tad bit shocking.
Quite. ALWAYS hold the plastic handle of the screwdriver when doing this :lol:
yeah...i dont think i have the cohones to try that one, lol. Its a 1980, there's really not that much that could be wrong with it..lol baffling Thanks for any help you can give though
Seriously, try it. It's easy. Just bridge the gap between the 2 posts on the selenoid with a screwdriver. You'll know immediately if it will turn over or not. This will go a long way towards helping diagnose the problem.

I had a truck with a bad ignition switch years ago that I had to start that way for like 3 months.

Hey even I've done it. I used to have a pinto (yes the firetrap) that I had to start that way. If a girl can do it........
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ph4ever wrote: Hey even I've done it. I used to have a pinto (yes the firetrap) that I had to start that way. If a girl can do it........
I dont' think 'girl' describes you sweet Connie. You're all woman. :D
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buffettbride wrote:
ph4ever wrote: Hey even I've done it. I used to have a pinto (yes the firetrap) that I had to start that way. If a girl can do it........
I dont' think 'girl' describes you sweet Connie. You're all woman. :D
I don't know about that - she showed me her nuts earlier...
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rednekkPH wrote:
buffettbride wrote:
ph4ever wrote: Hey even I've done it. I used to have a pinto (yes the firetrap) that I had to start that way. If a girl can do it........
I dont' think 'girl' describes you sweet Connie. You're all woman. :D
I don't know about that - she showed me her nuts earlier...
I forgot about that :-? Maybe "she" and Don aren't telling us something.
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ph4ever wrote:http://www.ultimatejeep.com also has a forum to ask questions. According to this site it could also be your voltage regulator

http://www.ultimatejeep.com/Forums/view ... =next.html
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long shot ... but maybe its a fuel system problem .. dont know if its too old to have a fuel pump reset switch ...sometimes its the simple things that go bad.
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When my jeep was doing this we originally thought it was a spark problem but it turned out to be a fuel problem. The fuel pump to be precise. The pump was running, just very week. See if starter fluid will get it started. If so that might be your problem.
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Won't start?

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Does it have gas in it? :wink:
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Re: Won't start?

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bucknutdet wrote:Does it have gas in it? :wink:
yeah :lol: its got gas.

i'm beginning to think its the switch, I'll just have to take apart the steering column to find out. But thats not too tough. I dont think its the voltage regulator because that wouldn't start affecting the jeep until it was running. There's always the chance that the new selenoid or starter that i bought were bad...i could check those out as well.

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Re: Won't start?

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CaribbnSoul wrote:i'm beginning to think its the switch, I'll just have to take apart the steering column to find out.
CS - seriously, do yourself a favor and try to start it by the seleniod. That will tell you in 2 seconds if the switch is bad.
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