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Posted: April 28, 2005 10:22 am
by PHBeerman
rednekkPH wrote:PHBeerman wrote:I hear you there. My problem is my love of beer.
Me too. And my disdain for light beer doesn't help either. My other thing is I love to eat. I don't think I'll ever kick that, so I've just been working on changing (somewhat) what I eat, moreso than how much I eat.
That is the key. I eat a lot better now than I used to. Work out everyday at lunch. 3 days a week I throw in a second workout at night. Now when I go to a restaurant. I look at the portions and think that that would feed my whole family.
Work outs help me to rationalize my 2-3
Or more a night.
ok, now I'm just kvetching
Posted: April 28, 2005 10:30 am
by LaTda
Posted: April 28, 2005 10:36 am
by comemonday
OceanCityGirl wrote:You have an 11yo. There's your motivation. You don't want him to start smoking. And if you do, he will.....
Of all my friends that smoke, I can't think of an instance where at least one of their parents didn't smoke. (myself included)
Posted: April 28, 2005 10:51 am
by LaTda
comemonday wrote:OceanCityGirl wrote:You have an 11yo. There's your motivation. You don't want him to start smoking. And if you do, he will.....
Of all my friends that smoke, I can't think of an instance where at least one of their parents didn't smoke. (myself included)
*raises hand*
Posted: April 28, 2005 11:05 am
by SchoolGirlHeart
LaTda wrote:ya, I can't start the slippery slope method, been there, bought a pack an hour later
my wife has also suggested being hypnotized (guess I can be a big ole butthole at times

) I just don't feel like I can be hypnotized, I still may try though..
You might want to check out a place in Va Beach called "Positive Changes Hypnosis." I lost a lot of weight with them several years ago, and it really did seem to work!
As far as smoking dreams go, I've never even had a puff on a cigarette or a cigar in my life, yet I have the occasional dream where I'm smoking.... Maybe because I sometimes associate smoking with being a stress reliever for people who do smoke..... Weird.....
Posted: April 28, 2005 11:26 am
by LaTda
I'll look them up SGH & let you know if they ever found that weight.. oh wait, I get it
thanks for the local
'link'
Posted: April 28, 2005 11:33 am
by SchoolGirlHeart
LaTda wrote:I'll look them up SGH & let you know if they ever found that weight.. oh wait, I get it
thanks for the local
'link'
Duh.... now that you mention links, I remember they have a web site:
http://www.positivechanges.com/
Posted: April 28, 2005 11:40 am
by ph4ever
Mike you are having what any "addict" experiences from time to time. I use the term addict because yes you were addicted to nicotine. Recovering drug addicts have then and commonly refer to them as dope dreams. The key is to not let the dream trigger a relapse. When you relapse you go back to where you were before very quickly. For example if you were a 1 pack a day smoker when you quit you can easily become a 1+ pack a day smoker in no time at all. Stay strong!!
Posted: April 28, 2005 12:51 pm
by citcat
Wow....'dope dreams'...I quit in 1977, still have occasional dreams where I smoke. They say nicotine is as addictive or more than heroin. I've had maybe 5 cigarettes in the last almost thirty years. I remember how many colds and bronchitis episodes I had when I smoked. That, and the hundreds or thousands of dollars that I'm saving each year by not smoking! I'm cheap, and that would really bother me.

Posted: April 28, 2005 12:58 pm
by Cubbie Bear
I quit because the smokes in the machine of the bar I was running jumped from 45 to 55 cents a pack. No, I'm cheap

Posted: April 28, 2005 2:23 pm
by Blonde Stranger
LaTda wrote:
Thanks
smokers know all too well about all that but we are talking about an addiction stronger then cocaine or heroin so to me that link falls under the cliche category
have you ever quit smoking? just curious.
I don't think it's cliche. When I quit smoking one of the many crutches I relied upon (in addition to gum, jolly ranchers, and Wellbutrin) was printing out copies of the stories I found on the internet of people who were MY age, not years older, who died or were irreparably damaged by smoking. Some of them had pictures of these young people on their deathbed. I think what made the difference was that I finally realized that even at my present age EVERY cigarette was a crapshoot - it could be the one to finally give me emphysema or mutate my DNA over the edge and create a cancer cell. I had been smoking 1-2 packs a day from age 14 to age 30, more than enough time to cause that much damage.
On my desk at work I kept a picture of an ICU bed with a ventilator and all sorts of machines and crap next to it with a caption underneath that read "Welcome to Marlboro Country".
Maybe trying to visualize your kid with a butt hanging out of his mouth will do it for you. Visualization can be powerful stuff. Good luck.
Posted: April 28, 2005 3:30 pm
by Moonie
Mike I quit smoking 10 yrs. ago.. ...I used the non-nicotine for a while, for the mental addiction to smoking, although those aren't exactly good for you, they are my no means a replacement for nicotine, but it does relieve the needs to a cigarette when you are in a bar..
after a few years when it was cloudy or raining, I often thought about how good a cigarette would taste.
best advice is....the desire for a cigarette will pass whether you have one or not..
Good Luck, Mike, I think it basically ends up being mind over matter, extreme will power..
The end result is worth it though.
Posted: April 28, 2005 3:40 pm
by ph4ever
As a smoker I took a look at that website. It did contain a lot of useful information however when you look at the posting area and the rules there is no allowance for relapse. If you relapse you are kicked out of the program for life. Many addicts go thru a few relapses before they total rid themselves of their drug use (and yes nicotine is a drug). IMHO a program that does not allow for a minimum number of slips ups is a program that a lot of people would be prone to failure. Sure at that website you hear the success stories and that's it - it would be interesting to hear about those that tried and got booted out of the program permenantly because they just couldn't control their cravings one day.
Posted: July 7, 2005 9:32 am
by nycparrothead
I'm going to try quitting on Saturday! Hopefully I can do as well as Mikey has! Wish me luck dudes!
Posted: July 7, 2005 9:45 am
by rednekkPH
nycparrothead wrote:I'm going to try quitting on Saturday! Hopefully I can do as well as Mikey has! Wish me luck dudes!
Damn you! Now who am I gonna bum smokes from in AC???
Posted: July 7, 2005 9:47 am
by nycparrothead
rednekkPH wrote:nycparrothead wrote:I'm going to try quitting on Saturday! Hopefully I can do as well as Mikey has! Wish me luck dudes!
Damn you! Now who am I gonna bum smokes from in AC???
Darren! Oh wait.. No that won't work cause he'll be stuck on the side of the road in his pussymobile...

Posted: July 7, 2005 9:47 am
by rednekkPH
nycparrothead wrote:rednekkPH wrote:nycparrothead wrote:I'm going to try quitting on Saturday! Hopefully I can do as well as Mikey has! Wish me luck dudes!
Damn you! Now who am I gonna bum smokes from in AC???
Darren! Oh wait.. No that won't work cause he'll be stuck on the side of the road in his pussymobile...

Monitor squeegie, please....
Posted: July 7, 2005 10:15 am
by spainjane
I've heard that
www.quitnet.com is great. It does running tabulations of $$ saved, days added to your life, etc. And it's supposed to make it fun, like a challenge to keep up with.
I've never tried it though. I quit about 6 years ago thanks to my hubby (then boyfriend) nagging the heck out of me. He made me so miserable every time that I smoked, that I finally gave it up. I thank him now.
Wellbutrin didn't work for me.
The gum helps when I hit one of those cranky spots. The new coated gum is tolerable, the old stuff made me want to vomit.
What really helps is going to a crowded smokey bar or a friend's house filled with smoke (or my mom-in-law's, now I know why it bothered him so much). It has to be really bad, like one of those airport smoking lounges that you can't see through. After I get back in the fresh air, the smell on my clothes and hair nauseates me. I still cheat and have 1 every few months or so, but again it just makes me glad I quit at this point.
It does get easier as time goes on!!! (I have zero willpower, if I did it- ANYONE CAN!)
Posted: July 7, 2005 10:18 am
by nycparrothead
I got the patch.. I've heard that works the best... ANd I'm getting a pack of Quest Nicotine free cigarettes to get me through the first few days. When I quit before I did with the nicotine free smokes and didn't have the patch and it worked pretty well... I'm hoping with the patch that I can do it again.
I did the quitnet.com thing before. That was pretty cool!
Posted: July 7, 2005 10:23 am
by Moonie
The urge for a cigarette will pass...whether you smoke one or not...
I quit 12 years ago. It takes tons of will power, however after the first 3 weeks or so, each day becomes easier...
I used the patches for 2 months. Also, the herbal cigarettes, ( a little herb always helps
) and I still use them when I'm in a bar or having a drink...but no nicotine...
Good Luck !!