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Posted: October 19, 2005 4:31 pm
by z-man
land_shark3 wrote:
ToplessRideFL wrote:The official track shows a landfall on Saturday south of Naples. The storm will be picked up by strong upper level winds when it enters the Gulf of Mexico and it should weaken due to increasing wind shear.
And then straight across Orlando and up the East Coast. :-?

Didn't one do that last year? Hit around Boca, bounced up the East Coast, and then circled back around towards Florida?
Don't be sayin' things like that!
That's what Charlie did last year, and we still haven't been able to get all the damage repaired!

Posted: October 19, 2005 4:32 pm
by Blonde Stranger
Caribbean Soul wrote:
Blonde Stranger wrote:
LIPH wrote:
ToplessRideFL wrote: Wilma, the strongest hurricane ever recorded in the Atlantic Basin, ...
Didn't they say that about Katrina?
No. Katrina came close and Rita even closer, but Wilma beat Gilbert and is now the strongest on record, which is measured by barometer, at 882 mb.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=1230481
By low pressure Wilma wins...
The reports about Katrina, and then Rita, being the strongest were based on wind speed, I believe. It's an apples and oranges kind of thing.
I think they use barometric pressure because it's a better indicator of intensity than windspeed. A storm's strongest winds might never be recorded because there is no ground or air observation, but the minimum central pressure can be measured by reconnaisance and can be estimated using computer models.

Posted: October 19, 2005 4:32 pm
by ToplessRideFL
z-man wrote: Don't be sayin' things like that!
That's what Charlie did last year, and we still haven't been able to get all the damage repaired!
Agree...and if it comes in @ Naples... that is 100 miles south of Pt Charlotte where CHarlie came in..... so it would more than likely cross under the Big O lake..... and comeout above the Palm Beaches

Posted: October 19, 2005 4:35 pm
by RinglingRingling
ToplessRideFL wrote:
z-man wrote:
land_shark3 wrote:
ToplessRideFL wrote:The official track shows a landfall on Saturday south of Naples. The storm will be picked up by strong upper level winds when it enters the Gulf of Mexico and it should weaken due to increasing wind shear.
And then straight across Orlando and up the East Coast. :-?

Didn't one do that last year? Hit around Boca, bounced up the East Coast, and then circled back around towards Florida?
Don't be sayin' things like that!
That's what Charlie did last year, and we still haven't been able to get all the damage repaired!
Agree...and if it comes in @ Naples... that is 100 miles south of Pt Charlotte where CHarlie came in..... so it would more than likely cross under the Big O lake..... and comeout above the Palm Beaches
that was the center of the path I was seeing this morning. Mouseville was on the edge of the cone, but not under the path. uff da.

Posted: October 19, 2005 4:37 pm
by ToplessRideFL
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Posted: October 19, 2005 4:37 pm
by Caribbean Soul
Blonde Stranger wrote:
Caribbean Soul wrote:
Blonde Stranger wrote:
LIPH wrote:
ToplessRideFL wrote: Wilma, the strongest hurricane ever recorded in the Atlantic Basin, ...
Didn't they say that about Katrina?
No. Katrina came close and Rita even closer, but Wilma beat Gilbert and is now the strongest on record, which is measured by barometer, at 882 mb.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=1230481
By low pressure Wilma wins...
The reports about Katrina, and then Rita, being the strongest were based on wind speed, I believe. It's an apples and oranges kind of thing.
I think they use barometric pressure because it's a better indicator of intensity than windspeed. A storm's strongest winds might never be recorded because there is no ground or air observation, but the minimum central pressure can be measured by reconnaisance and can be estimated using computer models.
Barometric pressure is definitely a better measurement. I wasn't trying to say it wasn't ... just attemting to solve the discrepancy, is all. :wink:

Posted: October 19, 2005 4:44 pm
by ToplessRideFL
and you know....nothing is in stone... remember how Katrina drifted.....?

Posted: October 19, 2005 4:48 pm
by Quiet and Shy
LIPH wrote:
Quiet and Shy wrote:No question she's an unpredictable beast.... :o :-? :-?
Well, she IS female. running for cover now
And you still haven't yet been able to figure out why........? :wench: :lol: :lol:

Posted: October 19, 2005 4:49 pm
by Blonde Stranger
Caribbean Soul wrote:
Blonde Stranger wrote:
Caribbean Soul wrote:
Blonde Stranger wrote:
LIPH wrote:
ToplessRideFL wrote: Wilma, the strongest hurricane ever recorded in the Atlantic Basin, ...
Didn't they say that about Katrina?
No. Katrina came close and Rita even closer, but Wilma beat Gilbert and is now the strongest on record, which is measured by barometer, at 882 mb.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=1230481
By low pressure Wilma wins...
The reports about Katrina, and then Rita, being the strongest were based on wind speed, I believe. It's an apples and oranges kind of thing.
I think they use barometric pressure because it's a better indicator of intensity than windspeed. A storm's strongest winds might never be recorded because there is no ground or air observation, but the minimum central pressure can be measured by reconnaisance and can be estimated using computer models.
Barometric pressure is definitely a better measurement. I wasn't trying to say it wasn't ... just attemting to solve the discrepancy, is all. :wink:
I know, and I didn't want to imply anything different, I just had to get my geek on for a minute :D :lol:

Posted: October 19, 2005 4:50 pm
by Quiet and Shy
Blonde Stranger wrote:
ToplessRideFL wrote:
Blonde Stranger wrote:
LIPH wrote:
ToplessRideFL wrote: Wilma, the strongest hurricane ever recorded in the Atlantic Basin, ...
Didn't they say that about Katrina?
No. Katrina came close and Rita even closer, but Wilma beat Gilbert and is now the strongest on record, which is measured by barometer, at 882 mb.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=1230481
I think the Atlantic Basin is the sticking point....

but either way.... one has been bigger than the last
I'm not sure what you mean by Atlantic. Wilma has now gone down as the most intense hurricane on record in this hemisphere, which consists of the Atlantic basin. Here is the current rank:

1 Wilma 2005 882
2 Gilbert 1988 888
3 Labor Day 1935 892
4 Rita 2005 897
5 Allen 1980 899
6 Katrina 2005 902
7 Camille 1969 905
And then the barometer blew away.... :o :o :-?

Posted: October 20, 2005 9:20 am
by ToplessRideFL
Miami, Florida - Forecasters say Hurricane Wilma is slowing down as it approaches Mexico's Yucatan Peninsula this morning.

That means it probably won't reach Florida until sometime on Sunday -- a day later than previously forecast.

Wilma is currently a Category Four storm with 150 mile-an-hour winds. It could re-intensify sometime today.

But forecasters at the National Hurricane Center say Wilma could be a much weaker Category Two hurricane by the time it reaches Florida.

Posted: October 20, 2005 9:53 am
by Gulfbreeze
This should clear everything up... :roll:

St. Pete Times
By GRAHAM BRINK, Times Staff Writer
Published October 20, 2005

On Wednesday afternoon, the agreement among the models "completely collapsed," according to a hurricane center update.

Some of the models put the storm on the previously forecast track. Others had the storm stalling in the Caribbean Sea and then taking various paths across Cuba or toward Florida.

Another scenario had the storm moving onto the Yucatan Peninsula, weakening and then moving back into the Caribbean Sea. From there, it is unclear whether the storm would reenergize or peter out.

(Can a Wilma have her peter out?) :o

Posted: October 20, 2005 10:02 am
by ToplessRideFL
Gulfbreeze wrote:
(Can a Wilma have her peter out?) :o
Only if Paul and Mary are watching...... :oops:

Posted: October 20, 2005 10:02 am
by rsgeist
Gulfbreeze wrote:Another scenario had the storm moving onto the Yucatan Peninsula, weakening and then moving back into the Caribbean Sea. From there, it is unclear whether the storm would reenergize or peter out.

(Can a Wilma have her peter out?) :o

Geez, that would make it a transgender storm so you can never be sure which way it'll go.

Posted: October 20, 2005 10:06 am
by Gulfbreeze
rsgeist wrote:
Gulfbreeze wrote:Another scenario had the storm moving onto the Yucatan Peninsula, weakening and then moving back into the Caribbean Sea. From there, it is unclear whether the storm would reenergize or peter out.

(Can a Wilma have her peter out?) :o

Geez, that would make it a transgender storm so you can never be sure which way it'll go.
Ahh...that explains it then...kinda like a couple of my neighbors... :lol: :lol:

Posted: October 20, 2005 10:18 am
by RinglingRingling
Gulfbreeze wrote:This should clear everything up... :roll:

St. Pete Times
By GRAHAM BRINK, Times Staff Writer
Published October 20, 2005

On Wednesday afternoon, the agreement among the models "completely collapsed," according to a hurricane center update.

Some of the models put the storm on the previously forecast track. Others had the storm stalling in the Caribbean Sea and then taking various paths across Cuba or toward Florida.

Another scenario had the storm moving onto the Yucatan Peninsula, weakening and then moving back into the Caribbean Sea. From there, it is unclear whether the storm would reenergize or peter out.

(Can a Wilma have her peter out?) :o
In New Orleans... yes.

Posted: October 20, 2005 10:48 am
by ToplessRideFL
This may be old news.... but I found the coolest link on MSNBC... not only does it auto track the current storm.... you can go back and look at the last 2 seasons and the paths the storms took....
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7845030

Posted: October 20, 2005 12:44 pm
by citcat
rsgeist wrote:
Gulfbreeze wrote:Another scenario had the storm moving onto the Yucatan Peninsula, weakening and then moving back into the Caribbean Sea. From there, it is unclear whether the storm would reenergize or peter out.

(Can a Wilma have her peter out?) :o

Geez, that would make it a transgender storm so you can never be sure which way it'll go.
:o Wilma is a morphodite? :o
That's bad. :o

Posted: October 20, 2005 1:29 pm
by Wino you know
I don't know if anybody noticed, but one of the A.B.C. weather-guessers was reporting from Key West and showed all the store fronts boarded up on Duval Street. Then he pointed one out that had a sign on the door that read "TRYING TO REASON WITH THE HURRICANE SEASON." He's obviously a NON-parrothead, because he didn't get the significance of it.

I wasn't able to tell if it was the Margaritaville store or not.

Posted: October 20, 2005 4:05 pm
by ToplessRideFL
This is the latest.......

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