Sometimes, in specific industries, people know people and your boss may be passing it on knowing full-well that some people may be looking for a change. People do that here all the time. Yes, you do have to be cautious and do your homework, but don't game yourself out of here.buffettbride wrote:Oh great. A whole new level of paranoia I didn't consider!land_shark3 wrote:
Granted, all that advice is assuming you don't have a coniving boss who might have made up this "opening" and set up a fake e-mail address to see how many people on his team want to leave.
It's actually a string of e-mails that didn't originate from my boss. She simply forwarded the other information from a different group that knows the type of work we do.
Weird job thing...*advice please*
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Ish. I know.ToplessRideFL wrote:It still smells fishy....buffettbride wrote:Oh great. A whole new level of paranoia I didn't consider!land_shark3 wrote:
Granted, all that advice is assuming you don't have a coniving boss who might have made up this "opening" and set up a fake e-mail address to see how many people on his team want to leave.
It's actually a string of e-mails that didn't originate from my boss. She simply forwarded the other information from a different group that knows the type of work we do.
This was the e-mail sent to our team:
FYI -- If you know of anyone looking for a technical writing job, please pass this on. Otherwise, please delete the message.
Thanks!
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Reserach the company and confirm the opening. What's it going to cost you, a long distance call and 15 minutes on a computer? That's nothing.buffettbride wrote:Ish. I know.ToplessRideFL wrote:It still smells fishy....buffettbride wrote:Oh great. A whole new level of paranoia I didn't consider!land_shark3 wrote:
Granted, all that advice is assuming you don't have a coniving boss who might have made up this "opening" and set up a fake e-mail address to see how many people on his team want to leave.
It's actually a string of e-mails that didn't originate from my boss. She simply forwarded the other information from a different group that knows the type of work we do.
This was the e-mail sent to our team:
FYI -- If you know of anyone looking for a technical writing job, please pass this on. Otherwise, please delete the message.
Thanks!
Elizabeth
"Oh all the money that e'er I spent, I spent it in good company.
And all the harm that I ever did, Alas it was to none but me.
And since it falls, unto my lot, that I should rise and you should not
I'll gently rise and I'll softly call, 'Goodnight and Joy be with you all.'"
-JMH
And all the harm that I ever did, Alas it was to none but me.
And since it falls, unto my lot, that I should rise and you should not
I'll gently rise and I'll softly call, 'Goodnight and Joy be with you all.'"
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Well exactly! Boss lady is no dummy, and I've known her for years. She's definitely not out to get anyone and always promotes our personal growth in addition to our professional growth. I feel confident her intentions are good, even knowing some of her own team members might consider a position like that.mings wrote:Sometimes, in specific industries, people know people and your boss may be passing it on knowing full-well that some people may be looking for a change. People do that here all the time. Yes, you do have to be cautious and do your homework, but don't game yourself out of here.buffettbride wrote:Oh great. A whole new level of paranoia I didn't consider!land_shark3 wrote:
Granted, all that advice is assuming you don't have a coniving boss who might have made up this "opening" and set up a fake e-mail address to see how many people on his team want to leave.
It's actually a string of e-mails that didn't originate from my boss. She simply forwarded the other information from a different group that knows the type of work we do.

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Justifiably so, some people on here are very cautious about things like this. That's a good way to be, until it turns into fear. There are some bosses who veiw their jobs as just that, jobs. They value the people with whom they work more than the company for whom they work. My boss is one of them. It's not 1940 anymore. People don't start and end their careers with the same company. Good bosses know this, and a disgruntled employee is no good to anyone.buffettbride wrote:Well exactly! Boss lady is no dummy, and I've known her for years. She's definitely not out to get anyone and always promotes our personal growth in addition to our professional growth. I feel confident her intentions are good, even knowing some of her own team members might consider a position like that.mings wrote:Sometimes, in specific industries, people know people and your boss may be passing it on knowing full-well that some people may be looking for a change. People do that here all the time. Yes, you do have to be cautious and do your homework, but don't game yourself out of here.buffettbride wrote:Oh great. A whole new level of paranoia I didn't consider!land_shark3 wrote:
Granted, all that advice is assuming you don't have a coniving boss who might have made up this "opening" and set up a fake e-mail address to see how many people on his team want to leave.
It's actually a string of e-mails that didn't originate from my boss. She simply forwarded the other information from a different group that knows the type of work we do.
"Oh all the money that e'er I spent, I spent it in good company.
And all the harm that I ever did, Alas it was to none but me.
And since it falls, unto my lot, that I should rise and you should not
I'll gently rise and I'll softly call, 'Goodnight and Joy be with you all.'"
-JMH
And all the harm that I ever did, Alas it was to none but me.
And since it falls, unto my lot, that I should rise and you should not
I'll gently rise and I'll softly call, 'Goodnight and Joy be with you all.'"
-JMH
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"Do you "know" anyone who might be interested?" is standard headhunter/recruiter language.
Trust your intuition. Taking a look into it (as long as you don't do it overtly on company time) shouldn't cause any harm.
Trust your intuition. Taking a look into it (as long as you don't do it overtly on company time) shouldn't cause any harm.
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Re: Weird job thing...*advice please*
When I spent a glorious week as a headhunter, I learned that is how you always present an opening.buffettbride wrote:The e-mail was worded in such a way that it implied for us to forward the information to anyone we *knew* who might be interested in such an opportunity--not if we were interested in it ourselves.
"Excuse me, but I represent a company that does XZY and they are looking for someone who has these skills. Would you happen to know anyone who might be interested?"
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I tend to NOT be cautious at all! I'm ready to jump in the pool before the whistle even blows.mings wrote:Justifiably so, some people on here are very cautious about things like this. That's a good way to be, until it turns into fear. There are some bosses who veiw their jobs as just that, jobs. They value the people with whom they work more than the company for whom they work. My boss is one of them. It's not 1940 anymore. People don't start and end their careers with the same company. Good bosses know this, and a disgruntled employee is no good to anyone.buffettbride wrote:Well exactly! Boss lady is no dummy, and I've known her for years. She's definitely not out to get anyone and always promotes our personal growth in addition to our professional growth. I feel confident her intentions are good, even knowing some of her own team members might consider a position like that.mings wrote:Sometimes, in specific industries, people know people and your boss may be passing it on knowing full-well that some people may be looking for a change. People do that here all the time. Yes, you do have to be cautious and do your homework, but don't game yourself out of here.buffettbride wrote:Oh great. A whole new level of paranoia I didn't consider!land_shark3 wrote:
Granted, all that advice is assuming you don't have a coniving boss who might have made up this "opening" and set up a fake e-mail address to see how many people on his team want to leave.
It's actually a string of e-mails that didn't originate from my boss. She simply forwarded the other information from a different group that knows the type of work we do.

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Re: Weird job thing...*advice please*
BINGO.... I do it daily! How else am I supposed to find a pharmacist for Vermont???land_shark3 wrote:
"Excuse me, but I represent a company that does XZY and they are looking for someone who has these skills. Would you happen to know anyone who might be interested?"
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http://www.homefair.com/homefair/servle ... d=homefairbuffettbride wrote:Oooooohhhhhhh. Speaking of which...does anyone have any really good resources for determining salaries in other states? I'm sure more $$ would be required due to the whoppingly ginormous cost of living in Honolulu.
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There's websites for that. Salary.com i think, but I know there's others. Google it.buffettbride wrote:Oooooohhhhhhh. Speaking of which...does anyone have any really good resources for determining salaries in other states? I'm sure more $$ would be required due to the whoppingly ginormous cost of living in Honolulu.
"Oh all the money that e'er I spent, I spent it in good company.
And all the harm that I ever did, Alas it was to none but me.
And since it falls, unto my lot, that I should rise and you should not
I'll gently rise and I'll softly call, 'Goodnight and Joy be with you all.'"
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And all the harm that I ever did, Alas it was to none but me.
And since it falls, unto my lot, that I should rise and you should not
I'll gently rise and I'll softly call, 'Goodnight and Joy be with you all.'"
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I know about salary.com. Just wanted to see if there's others BNrs have used with some luck!mings wrote:There's websites for that. Salary.com i think, but I know there's others. Google it.buffettbride wrote:Oooooohhhhhhh. Speaking of which...does anyone have any really good resources for determining salaries in other states? I'm sure more $$ would be required due to the whoppingly ginormous cost of living in Honolulu.

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Hawaii... just triple it.buffettbride wrote:Oooooohhhhhhh. Speaking of which...does anyone have any really good resources for determining salaries in other states? I'm sure more $$ would be required due to the whoppingly ginormous cost of living in Honolulu.
Actually, Monster.com used to have things like that on their resource page.
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Haha. Triple it. That's about right!land_shark3 wrote:Hawaii... just triple it.buffettbride wrote:Oooooohhhhhhh. Speaking of which...does anyone have any really good resources for determining salaries in other states? I'm sure more $$ would be required due to the whoppingly ginormous cost of living in Honolulu.![]()
Actually, Monster.com used to have things like that on their resource page.
Too bad I have to wait until I'm home to research all of this!! Looking for other jobs on company time is worse than the time I spend on BN!

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Re: Weird job thing...*advice please*
I'll be a drug dealer in VT... well 4 months out of the year. I can't do the snow. Oh yeah, and it has to be homeopathic drugs since I don't have any training with the legal kind.ToplessRideFL wrote:BINGO.... I do it daily! How else am I supposed to find a pharmacist for Vermont???land_shark3 wrote:"Excuse me, but I represent a company that does XZY and they are looking for someone who has these skills. Would you happen to know anyone who might be interested?"
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Lateral moves are kinda the norm in my world. There's very few levels of technical writing. It's either entry-level, professional, or senior (or things along those lines). I probably fall in the mid-range of professional (where most people probably are with this type of job). If I were to take it on, I'd make sure in the number crunching that it worked out in our favor--and not just geographically.ToplessRideFL wrote:The one I posted above is in my experience the most accurate.... Also beside COL... dont forget to add in at least a 6-10% increase...... for you making the move....rarely is a latteral move smart
Edit: It's also a field that is somewhat tool-dependant, meaning a specific skill with a specific tool or software is what often times makes or breaks a job opportunity.
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Re: Weird job thing...*advice please*
Actually that would probably go over pretty well in VT...land_shark3 wrote:I'll be a drug dealer in VT... well 4 months out of the year. I can't do the snow. Oh yeah, and it has to be homeopathic drugs since I don't have any training with the legal kind.ToplessRideFL wrote:BINGO.... I do it daily! How else am I supposed to find a pharmacist for Vermont???land_shark3 wrote:"Excuse me, but I represent a company that does XZY and they are looking for someone who has these skills. Would you happen to know anyone who might be interested?"

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Or Boulder.Caribbean Soul wrote:Actually that would probably go over pretty well in VT...land_shark3 wrote:I'll be a drug dealer in VT... well 4 months out of the year. I can't do the snow. Oh yeah, and it has to be homeopathic drugs since I don't have any training with the legal kind.ToplessRideFL wrote:BINGO.... I do it daily! How else am I supposed to find a pharmacist for Vermont???land_shark3 wrote:"Excuse me, but I represent a company that does XZY and they are looking for someone who has these skills. Would you happen to know anyone who might be interested?"
