Blogging ban provokes a debate over cyberspace

[Sam]

While teachers have the responsibility to the child first and to report abuse or neglect.I have seen it get out of hand. I know of at least one person that had not done anything to cause anything to happen got placed on a for lack of better terms "watch list" because the keet did something to himself.

As for parents that believe in corporal punishment then that is up to the parent, and how they choose to discipline thier child. There is a difference between a spanking and a beating. A spanking is one thing, abuse is totally different.

The problem with spanking is, that I don't think it is used often enough these days. It worked well for over 2,000 years or more. Now a days someone has decided that it is wrong. There are manyways to spank or discipline a child. Currently some keets can and will hold that over their parents heads and threaten to call 911 on them for abuse, when it is not abuse. How are these keets going to handle pressure later in life if they cannot learn to handle and accept responsibility and consequences of their actions?

Perhaps the people intervening sometimes should know more of the situation than just what they see,
EXAMPLE:
Atlanta, Georgia, some years ago. A woman is grocery shoping and her keet is in the buggy being a little hellion. Pulling items off the shelf and other nasty behavior. She had warned and told the keet to knock it off and to behave. She slapped him upside the head. Not hard, and not hard enough to leave a mark. Some store employee saw it and reported it.
The woman gets arrested. Keets are taken away by DFACS. The woman calls hubby. The woman spends time in jail, loses her job, Her husband gets her bailed out.Sometime later, and over $30,000.00 later, she is cleared of anywrong doing, and they finally get their keets back and their name is now on a "watch list".

Was that best for the keets? They lost and could not see their parents for several months?

There are keets within the system that are missing,. Have been missing for sometime....Is it really neccessary to screw up a family like that when the system cannot keep track of kids already in place?

I do not agree with intervention in the home unless there are real problems or the possibility of problems .....but the family need not suffer simply because someone either sees what COULD BE abuse or neglect or simply because someone makes allegations of abuse and neglect. The persons making false allegations need to be held responsible. how can they make it up to the needless suffering of the family and trauma to the keets plus the loss of job, the stigma, and to the family?

I do not mean that one need fear reporting such if there are legitimate grounds for for such, I mean for cases like the woman and her husband I mentioned above.

Something must be done to get this back under parental control.

[On The Edge]

And if we're banning MySpace and Xanga, why don't we ban AIM, and Yahoo and MSN Messenger too. You can meet predators through that too. Hell, why not ban message boards like BN, too.

Like I said, all you can do is regulate what the kids do on teh computer AT SCHOOL, and school only.

A step in the right direction, regardless of how small, is still a step in the right direction. Perhaps this principals actions are nothing more than an opportunity to raise awareness within the community. Seems like the principal got some national attention.. If that is the case, my hats of to him. Job well done.

What is a step in the right direction? I'm not quite catching you. Even if there is no way they can ban AIM @ home. The backlash would be tremendous. That is how kids communicate with each other out of school. Plus there would be no way to enforce it. What are they going to do? Have each kid print out the 'puter's history each day? Go to each kids house and make sure that AIM is uninstalled on their computers?

Read the second, third. and fourth sentence in my post. I feel it validates my first opinion statement. If you still don't get it, you can join my "Reading for Comprehension" class that tutors children that test below grade level in this area. We meet on Tuesday and Thursday after school in room F8.

[ph4ever]

I'm very familiar with Xanga. My son has had his blog for a while and I read his and his friends blogs. Although he graduated this past spring, some of his friends are still in high school. So far, in my lurking on all those blogs I have yet to find anything that would alarm me as a parent. In fact this was on my son's blog for Monday and quite frankly I'm proud of it. I know his friend Kyle as well.

Monday, October 24, 2005

This is from my good friend Kyle



>>A college professor, an avowed atheist and active in the ACLU, was
>> teaching his class. He shocked several of his students when he flatly
>> stated that once and for all he was going to prove there was no God.
>> Addressing the ceiling he shouted: "GOD, if you are real, then I want
>> you to knock me off this platform. I'll give you exactly 15 minutes!!!!!"
>> The lecture room fell silent. You could hear a pin drop.
>> Ten minutes went by. " I'm waiting God, if you're real knock me off
>> this platform!!!!"
>> Again after 4 minutes, the professor taunted God saying, "Here I am,
>> God! I'm still waiting!"
>> His count down got down to the last couple of minutes when a SEAL,
>> just released from the Navy after serving in Afghanistan and Iraq and
>> newly registered in the class, walked up to the Professor. The SEAL hit
>> him full force in the face, and sent the Professor tumbling from his
>> lofty platform. The Professor was out cold! The students were stunned
>> and shocked. They began to babble in confusion.
>> The SEAL nonchalantly took his seat in the front row and sat silent.
>> The class looked at him and fell silent.....waiting.
>> Eventually, the professor came to and was noticeably shaken.
>> He looked at the SEAL in the front row. When the professor regained
>> his senses and could speak he asked: "What the hell is the matter
>> with you? Why did you do that?
>> "God was really busy, protecting America's soldiers, who are protecting
>> your right to say stupid s*** and act like an ass! So he sent me!"

[On The Edge]

I'm very familiar with Xanga. My son has had his blog for a while and I read his and his friends blogs. Although he graduated this past spring, some of his friends are still in high school. So far, in my lurking on all those blogs I have yet to find anything that would alarm me as a parent. In fact this was on my son's blog for Monday and quite frankly I'm proud of it. I know his friend Kyle as well.

Monday, October 24, 2005

This is from my good friend Kyle



>>A college professor, an avowed atheist and active in the ACLU, was
>> teaching his class. He shocked several of his students when he flatly
>> stated that once and for all he was going to prove there was no God.
>> Addressing the ceiling he shouted: "GOD, if you are real, then I want
>> you to knock me off this platform. I'll give you exactly 15 minutes!!!!!"
>> The lecture room fell silent. You could hear a pin drop.
>> Ten minutes went by. " I'm waiting God, if you're real knock me off
>> this platform!!!!"
>> Again after 4 minutes, the professor taunted God saying, "Here I am,
>> God! I'm still waiting!"
>> His count down got down to the last couple of minutes when a SEAL,
>> just released from the Navy after serving in Afghanistan and Iraq and
>> newly registered in the class, walked up to the Professor. The SEAL hit
>> him full force in the face, and sent the Professor tumbling from his
>> lofty platform. The Professor was out cold! The students were stunned
>> and shocked. They began to babble in confusion.
>> The SEAL nonchalantly took his seat in the front row and sat silent.
>> The class looked at him and fell silent.....waiting.
>> Eventually, the professor came to and was noticeably shaken.
>> He looked at the SEAL in the front row. When the professor regained
>> his senses and could speak he asked: "What the hell is the matter
>> with you? Why did you do that?
>> "God was really busy, protecting America's soldiers, who are protecting
>> your right to say stupid s*** and act like an ass! So he sent me!"

My hat is off to a parent concerned enough to "lurk". I'm glad to know that you found nothing to alarm you, and even happier to see that you found reason to be proud of the son you raised.

As I suggested in an earlier post, perhaps (pure speculation), the principal simply wanted to raise awareness, encourage more parents to "lurk" or develop relationships with their children where the children would not mind them "lurking". I'm damn glad my parents "lurked", it gave me a sense of security that even though I didn't always like or appreciate it, I knew they were there looking out for me.

[jonesbeach10]

I'm very familiar with Xanga. My son has had his blog for a while and I read his and his friends blogs. Although he graduated this past spring, some of his friends are still in high school. So far, in my lurking on all those blogs I have yet to find anything that would alarm me as a parent. In fact this was on my son's blog for Monday and quite frankly I'm proud of it. I know his friend Kyle as well.

Monday, October 24, 2005

This is from my good friend Kyle



>>A college professor, an avowed atheist and active in the ACLU, was
>> teaching his class. He shocked several of his students when he flatly
>> stated that once and for all he was going to prove there was no God.
>> Addressing the ceiling he shouted: "GOD, if you are real, then I want
>> you to knock me off this platform. I'll give you exactly 15 minutes!!!!!"
>> The lecture room fell silent. You could hear a pin drop.
>> Ten minutes went by. " I'm waiting God, if you're real knock me off
>> this platform!!!!"
>> Again after 4 minutes, the professor taunted God saying, "Here I am,
>> God! I'm still waiting!"
>> His count down got down to the last couple of minutes when a SEAL,
>> just released from the Navy after serving in Afghanistan and Iraq and
>> newly registered in the class, walked up to the Professor. The SEAL hit
>> him full force in the face, and sent the Professor tumbling from his
>> lofty platform. The Professor was out cold! The students were stunned
>> and shocked. They began to babble in confusion.
>> The SEAL nonchalantly took his seat in the front row and sat silent.
>> The class looked at him and fell silent.....waiting.
>> Eventually, the professor came to and was noticeably shaken.
>> He looked at the SEAL in the front row. When the professor regained
>> his senses and could speak he asked: "What the hell is the matter
>> with you? Why did you do that?
>> "God was really busy, protecting America's soldiers, who are protecting
>> your right to say stupid s*** and act like an ass! So he sent me!"

ROTFLMAO
Kudos to the SEAL. Quick thinking.

[jonesbeach10]

And if we're banning MySpace and Xanga, why don't we ban AIM, and Yahoo and MSN Messenger too. You can meet predators through that too. Hell, why not ban message boards like BN, too.

Like I said, all you can do is regulate what the kids do on teh computer AT SCHOOL, and school only.

A step in the right direction, regardless of how small, is still a step in the right direction. Perhaps this principals actions are nothing more than an opportunity to raise awareness within the community. Seems like the principal got some national attention.. If that is the case, my hats of to him. Job well done.

What is a step in the right direction? I'm not quite catching you. Even if there is no way they can ban AIM @ home. The backlash would be tremendous. That is how kids communicate with each other out of school. Plus there would be no way to enforce it. What are they going to do? Have each kid print out the 'puter's history each day? Go to each kids house and make sure that AIM is uninstalled on their computers?

Read the second, third. and fourth sentence in my post. I feel it validates my first opinion statement. If you still don't get it, you can join my "Reading for Comprehension" class that tutors children that test below grade level in this area. We meet on Tuesday and Thursday after school in room F8.

I don't know much math, but I think it may pse a slight challenge to travel 3000 miles every Tues. and Thurs.

I got what you're saying. If all it does is increase parental awareness then yeah, it is a step in the right direction. You just obviously can't take it to the extreme with AIM, etc. nor can you really enforce it.

Realistically all you can really do is to ban it at school, and strongly encourage parents to keep a close watch over their blogs and take necessary action if they post information they don't want their kids to give out.

[On The Edge]

And if we're banning MySpace and Xanga, why don't we ban AIM, and Yahoo and MSN Messenger too. You can meet predators through that too. Hell, why not ban message boards like BN, too.

Like I said, all you can do is regulate what the kids do on teh computer AT SCHOOL, and school only.

A step in the right direction, regardless of how small, is still a step in the right direction. Perhaps this principals actions are nothing more than an opportunity to raise awareness within the community. Seems like the principal got some national attention.. If that is the case, my hats of to him. Job well done.

What is a step in the right direction? I'm not quite catching you. Even if there is no way they can ban AIM @ home. The backlash would be tremendous. That is how kids communicate with each other out of school. Plus there would be no way to enforce it. What are they going to do? Have each kid print out the 'puter's history each day? Go to each kids house and make sure that AIM is uninstalled on their computers?

Read the second, third. and fourth sentence in my post. I feel it validates my first opinion statement. If you still don't get it, you can join my "Reading for Comprehension" class that tutors children that test below grade level in this area. We meet on Tuesday and Thursday after school in room F8.

I don't know much math, but I think it may pse a slight challenge to travel 3000 miles every Tues. and Thurs.

I got what you're saying. If all it does is increase parental awareness then yeah, it is a step in the right direction. You just obviously can't take it to the extreme with AIM, etc. nor can you really enforce it.

Realistically all you can really do is to ban it at school, and strongly encourage parents to keep a close watch over their blogs and take necessary action if they post information they don't want their kids to give out.

Glad you got my point, and I really appreciate you ability to take a joke. (the reading comprehension class). Although it would help to have some fun people help me work with these children. I would be happy to teach you a little more math, if you would consider the 3000 mile trip.

[jonesbeach10]

And if we're banning MySpace and Xanga, why don't we ban AIM, and Yahoo and MSN Messenger too. You can meet predators through that too. Hell, why not ban message boards like BN, too.

Like I said, all you can do is regulate what the kids do on teh computer AT SCHOOL, and school only.

A step in the right direction, regardless of how small, is still a step in the right direction. Perhaps this principals actions are nothing more than an opportunity to raise awareness within the community. Seems like the principal got some national attention.. If that is the case, my hats of to him. Job well done.

What is a step in the right direction? I'm not quite catching you. Even if there is no way they can ban AIM @ home. The backlash would be tremendous. That is how kids communicate with each other out of school. Plus there would be no way to enforce it. What are they going to do? Have each kid print out the 'puter's history each day? Go to each kids house and make sure that AIM is uninstalled on their computers?

Read the second, third. and fourth sentence in my post. I feel it validates my first opinion statement. If you still don't get it, you can join my "Reading for Comprehension" class that tutors children that test below grade level in this area. We meet on Tuesday and Thursday after school in room F8.

I don't know much math, but I think it may pse a slight challenge to travel 3000 miles every Tues. and Thurs.

I got what you're saying. If all it does is increase parental awareness then yeah, it is a step in the right direction. You just obviously can't take it to the extreme with AIM, etc. nor can you really enforce it.

Realistically all you can really do is to ban it at school, and strongly encourage parents to keep a close watch over their blogs and take necessary action if they post information they don't want their kids to give out.

Glad you got my point, and I really appreciate you ability to take a joke. (the reading comprehension class). Although it would help to have some fun people help me work with these children. I would be happy to teach you a little more math, if you would consider the 3000 mile trip.

Yeah well, Math Suks!

[Lightning Bolt]

A Catholic institution pontificating (pun intended) on morality in America in 2005.
...sounds like a punchline, right now.