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Posted: November 15, 2005 1:04 pm
by RinglingRingling
On The Edge wrote:ph4ever wrote:mings wrote:iuparrothead wrote:On The Edge wrote:Tiki Bar wrote:
I am of the same mindset. In my perspective, "he" or "they" was the bully, but unless I'm mistaken, the thesis was written based on that persona being on the receiving end of the bullying.
Misconceptions, Rumors, and inaccurate information are often the root of intolerance.
UGH!!! Take a look in the freakin' mirror then!!!
You're full of them in regards to BN! You come in here, sling insults and make rude insinuations about people for months & then insist on the
misconception that BN is full of
exclusive cliques! BN doesn't exclude newcomers... they are most welcome. Ask mings, ask rsgeist, aske davesnik, ask many, many others.
You are so full of crap. I'm all for inclusion... in society, in the workplace, in schools. But for you to boast about your academic exploits, yet come here and act the way you do is the biggest demonstration of hypocrisy I could ever find!!!
I don't know what direction this thread has taken nor why, because I've only been a member since August, but since I see my name I feel committed to respond. As I've said, I've been around here for less than 3 months, and I can say that, for the most part, the established BNrs have been very inclusive and accepting of me. I don't really know anyone, and have only gotten to know them from our daily interaction on here, but I already feel like I've known some for longer than the couple of months I've been around. Like I said, I don't know the history of things to which you refer, but I can say that claiming that "BN is full of
exclusive cliques!" is just that - a misconception.
Cliff Notes Version
OTE originally was a different persona here
That persona came on the boards being rude and downright nasty to people
That persona got banned
That persona and OTE now claim that the unacceptable behavior and attitude were because OTE was doing it at the direction of his professor (who is also a BN'er but who this professor is I have no ideal cause OTE won't say and the professor hasn't come forward and revealed themselves) as research for his masters thesis that he was writing back in the summer.
that's about where this thread picks up
Actually most of your information or interpretation of the history is innacurate. Very innacurate. Yet this is the "story" that persists. So be it.
Techically, she's right on 3 of the 4 statements that I know of. You were another persona; you were banned; and a lot of nasty stuff was said. I can't give her a clean sweep because a) I never saw the claim about a BN professor authorizing your research study techniques; and b) I don't really care to go digging thru all the posts to find it.
Posted: November 15, 2005 1:05 pm
by On The Edge
big hat carmen wrote:ph4ever wrote:[
Cliff Notes Version
OTE originally was a different persona here
That persona came on the boards being rude and downright nasty to people
That persona got banned
That persona and OTE now claim that the unacceptable behavior and attitude were because OTE was doing it at the direction of his professor (who is also a BN'er but who this professor is I have no ideal cause OTE won't say and the professor hasn't come forward and revealed themselves) as research for his masters thesis that he was writing back in the summer.
that's about where this thread picks up
If this story is true, then IMHO, this is academic dishonesty because we were used and abused with giving informed consent. I was taught that research in social sciences is about doing no harm to the subjects.
Actually many BNrs are misinformed that I did any research on this site. Rather I found an interesting comparison in the manner in which I saw others treated as well as the manner in which I was treated. I had numerous conversations with my mentor (also a BNr) and he felt it was worth further investigation. As far as my thesis was concerned the comparison of my experience was a mere footnote in a body of work that was over 80 pages in length. Some people like to make things bigger than they are.
Posted: November 15, 2005 1:10 pm
by ph4ever
RinglingRingling wrote:On The Edge wrote:ph4ever wrote:mings wrote:iuparrothead wrote:On The Edge wrote:
Misconceptions, Rumors, and inaccurate information are often the root of intolerance.
UGH!!! Take a look in the freakin' mirror then!!!
You're full of them in regards to BN! You come in here, sling insults and make rude insinuations about people for months & then insist on the
misconception that BN is full of
exclusive cliques! BN doesn't exclude newcomers... they are most welcome. Ask mings, ask rsgeist, aske davesnik, ask many, many others.
You are so full of crap. I'm all for inclusion... in society, in the workplace, in schools. But for you to boast about your academic exploits, yet come here and act the way you do is the biggest demonstration of hypocrisy I could ever find!!!
I don't know what direction this thread has taken nor why, because I've only been a member since August, but since I see my name I feel committed to respond. As I've said, I've been around here for less than 3 months, and I can say that, for the most part, the established BNrs have been very inclusive and accepting of me. I don't really know anyone, and have only gotten to know them from our daily interaction on here, but I already feel like I've known some for longer than the couple of months I've been around. Like I said, I don't know the history of things to which you refer, but I can say that claiming that "BN is full of
exclusive cliques!" is just that - a misconception.
Cliff Notes Version
OTE originally was a different persona here
That persona came on the boards being rude and downright nasty to people
That persona got banned
That persona and OTE now claim that the unacceptable behavior and attitude were because OTE was doing it at the direction of his professor (who is also a BN'er but who this professor is I have no ideal cause OTE won't say and the professor hasn't come forward and revealed themselves) as research for his masters thesis that he was writing back in the summer.
that's about where this thread picks up
Actually most of your information or interpretation of the history is innacurate. Very innacurate. Yet this is the "story" that persists. So be it.
Techically, she's right on 3 of the 4 statements that I know of. You were another persona; you were banned; and a lot of nasty stuff was said. I can't give her a clean sweep because a) I never saw the claim about a BN professor authorizing your research study techniques; and b) I don't really care to go digging thru all the posts to find it.
actually you won't find it - it was on a pm he sent to me at BW
Posted: November 15, 2005 1:12 pm
by rsgeist
iuparrothead wrote:On The Edge wrote:Tiki Bar wrote:ph4ever wrote:Personally I'd like to read the masters thesis that OTE wrote. When he and his wife were on the board under their "other" name they were extremely rude, insulting and instigating problems here. I fail to find how the insults and wishes of death made here correlate to childhood bullying. IMHO your reasearch "here" is extremely flawed as you don't know the background of the people you chose to target to bully.
I am of the same mindset. In my perspective, "he" or "they" was the bully, but unless I'm mistaken, the thesis was written based on that persona being on the receiving end of the bullying.
Misconceptions, Rumors, and inaccurate information are often the root of intolerance.
UGH!!! Take a look in the freakin' mirror then!!!
You're full of them in regards to BN! You come in here, sling insults and make rude insinuations about people for months & then insist on the misconception that BN is full of
exclusive cliques! BN doesn't exclude newcomers... they are most welcome. Ask mings,
ask rsgeist, aske davesnik, ask many, many others.
You are so full of crap. I'm all for inclusion... in society, in the workplace, in schools. But for you to boast about your academic exploits, yet come here and act the way you do is the biggest demonstration of hypocrisy I could ever find!!!
I can state, with absolute certainty, that this is true. Y'all insult me just as much as the long-timers!

(I feel so loved.) And Jodi always offers me popcorn - good times!
Posted: November 15, 2005 1:12 pm
by RinglingRingling
ph4ever wrote:RinglingRingling wrote:On The Edge wrote:ph4ever wrote:mings wrote:iuparrothead wrote:
UGH!!! Take a look in the freakin' mirror then!!!
You're full of them in regards to BN! You come in here, sling insults and make rude insinuations about people for months & then insist on the misconception that BN is full of exclusive cliques! BN doesn't exclude newcomers... they are most welcome. Ask mings, ask rsgeist, aske davesnik, ask many, many others.
You are so full of crap. I'm all for inclusion... in society, in the workplace, in schools. But for you to boast about your academic exploits, yet come here and act the way you do is the biggest demonstration of hypocrisy I could ever find!!!
I don't know what direction this thread has taken nor why, because I've only been a member since August, but since I see my name I feel committed to respond. As I've said, I've been around here for less than 3 months, and I can say that, for the most part, the established BNrs have been very inclusive and accepting of me. I don't really know anyone, and have only gotten to know them from our daily interaction on here, but I already feel like I've known some for longer than the couple of months I've been around. Like I said, I don't know the history of things to which you refer, but I can say that claiming that "BN is full of
exclusive cliques!" is just that - a misconception.
Cliff Notes Version
OTE originally was a different persona here
That persona came on the boards being rude and downright nasty to people
That persona got banned
That persona and OTE now claim that the unacceptable behavior and attitude were because OTE was doing it at the direction of his professor (who is also a BN'er but who this professor is I have no ideal cause OTE won't say and the professor hasn't come forward and revealed themselves) as research for his masters thesis that he was writing back in the summer.
that's about where this thread picks up
Actually most of your information or interpretation of the history is innacurate. Very innacurate. Yet this is the "story" that persists. So be it.
Techically, she's right on 3 of the 4 statements that I know of. You were another persona; you were banned; and a lot of nasty stuff was said. I can't give her a clean sweep because a) I never saw the claim about a BN professor authorizing your research study techniques; and b) I don't really care to go digging thru all the posts to find it.
actually you won't find it - it was on a pm he sent to me at BW
so three for four. Hit that life-time and you are a first-ballot Hall of Famer.

Posted: November 15, 2005 1:13 pm
by mings
RinglingRingling wrote:ph4ever wrote:RinglingRingling wrote:On The Edge wrote:ph4ever wrote:mings wrote:
I don't know what direction this thread has taken nor why, because I've only been a member since August, but since I see my name I feel committed to respond. As I've said, I've been around here for less than 3 months, and I can say that, for the most part, the established BNrs have been very inclusive and accepting of me. I don't really know anyone, and have only gotten to know them from our daily interaction on here, but I already feel like I've known some for longer than the couple of months I've been around. Like I said, I don't know the history of things to which you refer, but I can say that claiming that "BN is full of exclusive cliques!" is just that - a misconception.
Cliff Notes Version
OTE originally was a different persona here
That persona came on the boards being rude and downright nasty to people
That persona got banned
That persona and OTE now claim that the unacceptable behavior and attitude were because OTE was doing it at the direction of his professor (who is also a BN'er but who this professor is I have no ideal cause OTE won't say and the professor hasn't come forward and revealed themselves) as research for his masters thesis that he was writing back in the summer.
that's about where this thread picks up
Actually most of your information or interpretation of the history is innacurate. Very innacurate. Yet this is the "story" that persists. So be it.
Techically, she's right on 3 of the 4 statements that I know of. You were another persona; you were banned; and a lot of nasty stuff was said. I can't give her a clean sweep because a) I never saw the claim about a BN professor authorizing your research study techniques; and b) I don't really care to go digging thru all the posts to find it.
actually you won't find it - it was on a pm he sent to me at BW
so three for four. Hit that life-time and you are a first-ballot Hall of Famer.

or on steroids
Posted: November 15, 2005 1:14 pm
by mings
rsgeist wrote:iuparrothead wrote:On The Edge wrote:Tiki Bar wrote:ph4ever wrote:Personally I'd like to read the masters thesis that OTE wrote. When he and his wife were on the board under their "other" name they were extremely rude, insulting and instigating problems here. I fail to find how the insults and wishes of death made here correlate to childhood bullying. IMHO your reasearch "here" is extremely flawed as you don't know the background of the people you chose to target to bully.
I am of the same mindset. In my perspective, "he" or "they" was the bully, but unless I'm mistaken, the thesis was written based on that persona being on the receiving end of the bullying.
Misconceptions, Rumors, and inaccurate information are often the root of intolerance.
UGH!!! Take a look in the freakin' mirror then!!!
You're full of them in regards to BN! You come in here, sling insults and make rude insinuations about people for months & then insist on the misconception that BN is full of
exclusive cliques! BN doesn't exclude newcomers... they are most welcome. Ask mings,
ask rsgeist, aske davesnik, ask many, many others.
You are so full of crap. I'm all for inclusion... in society, in the workplace, in schools. But for you to boast about your academic exploits, yet come here and act the way you do is the biggest demonstration of hypocrisy I could ever find!!!
I can state, with absolute certainty, that this is true.
Y'all insult me just as much as the long-timers! 
(I feel so loved.) And Jodi always offers me popcorn - good times!
shut up, will ya?

Posted: November 15, 2005 1:14 pm
by RinglingRingling
rsgeist wrote:iuparrothead wrote:On The Edge wrote:Tiki Bar wrote:ph4ever wrote:Personally I'd like to read the masters thesis that OTE wrote. When he and his wife were on the board under their "other" name they were extremely rude, insulting and instigating problems here. I fail to find how the insults and wishes of death made here correlate to childhood bullying. IMHO your reasearch "here" is extremely flawed as you don't know the background of the people you chose to target to bully.
I am of the same mindset. In my perspective, "he" or "they" was the bully, but unless I'm mistaken, the thesis was written based on that persona being on the receiving end of the bullying.
Misconceptions, Rumors, and inaccurate information are often the root of intolerance.
UGH!!! Take a look in the freakin' mirror then!!!
You're full of them in regards to BN! You come in here, sling insults and make rude insinuations about people for months & then insist on the misconception that BN is full of
exclusive cliques! BN doesn't exclude newcomers... they are most welcome. Ask mings,
ask rsgeist, aske davesnik, ask many, many others.
You are so full of crap. I'm all for inclusion... in society, in the workplace, in schools. But for you to boast about your academic exploits, yet come here and act the way you do is the biggest demonstration of hypocrisy I could ever find!!!
I can state, with absolute certainty, that this is true. Y'all insult me just as much as the long-timers!

(I feel so loved.) And Jodi always offers me popcorn - good times!
now if you could just get Christina to abuse you the way she wants to abuse Larry...

Posted: November 15, 2005 1:16 pm
by ph4ever
On The Edge wrote:big hat carmen wrote:ph4ever wrote:[
Cliff Notes Version
OTE originally was a different persona here
That persona came on the boards being rude and downright nasty to people
That persona got banned
That persona and OTE now claim that the unacceptable behavior and attitude were because OTE was doing it at the direction of his professor (who is also a BN'er but who this professor is I have no ideal cause OTE won't say and the professor hasn't come forward and revealed themselves) as research for his masters thesis that he was writing back in the summer.
that's about where this thread picks up
If this story is true, then IMHO, this is academic dishonesty because we were used and abused with giving informed consent. I was taught that research in social sciences is about doing no harm to the subjects.
Actually many BNrs are misinformed that I did any research on this site. Rather I found an interesting comparison in the manner in which I saw others treated as well as the manner in which I was treated. I had numerous conversations with my mentor (also a BNr) and he felt it was worth further investigation. As far as my thesis was concerned the comparison of my experience was a mere footnote in a body of work that was over 80 pages in length. Some people like to make things bigger than they are.
Brian you TOLD ME PERSONALLY VIA PM that you did your research here. You really need to quit whinning about the way you were treated. You made it clear to me that your behavor was for research for your thesis. For someone bragging about his thesis the way you have your hesistation to actually post the link where it was published, as the majority of published thesis are available on the internet somewhere, is puzzling. I'd also like to remind you that in many of the posts under the other persona it was you or your wife that threw the first punch.
Posted: November 15, 2005 1:18 pm
by RinglingRingling
mings wrote:RinglingRingling wrote:ph4ever wrote:actually you won't find it - it was on a pm he sent to me at BW
so three for four. Hit that life-time and you are a first-ballot Hall of Famer.

or on steroids
Not even Rafael "Little Blue Diamonds" Palmiero hit that much..

Posted: November 15, 2005 1:24 pm
by sunseeker
RinglingRingling wrote:mings wrote:RinglingRingling wrote:ph4ever wrote:actually you won't find it - it was on a pm he sent to me at BW
so three for four. Hit that life-time and you are a first-ballot Hall of Famer.

or on steroids
Not even Rafael "Little Blue Diamonds" Palmiero hit that much..

hmmm.......interesting.....
Posted: November 15, 2005 1:26 pm
by mings
sunseeker wrote:RinglingRingling wrote:mings wrote:RinglingRingling wrote:ph4ever wrote:actually you won't find it - it was on a pm he sent to me at BW
so three for four. Hit that life-time and you are a first-ballot Hall of Famer.

or on steroids
Not even Rafael "Little Blue Diamonds" Palmiero hit that much..

hmmm.......interesting.....
Yeah - it's true. but does that make you HOF material???
Posted: November 15, 2005 1:27 pm
by ph4ever
mings wrote:sunseeker wrote:RinglingRingling wrote:mings wrote:RinglingRingling wrote:ph4ever wrote:actually you won't find it - it was on a pm he sent to me at BW
so three for four. Hit that life-time and you are a first-ballot Hall of Famer.

or on steroids
Not even Rafael "Little Blue Diamonds" Palmiero hit that much..

hmmm.......interesting.....
Yeah - it's true. but does that make you HOF material???
I'm sure she'd vote for me

Posted: November 15, 2005 1:27 pm
by sunseeker
mings wrote:sunseeker wrote:RinglingRingling wrote:mings wrote:RinglingRingling wrote:ph4ever wrote:actually you won't find it - it was on a pm he sent to me at BW
so three for four. Hit that life-time and you are a first-ballot Hall of Famer.

or on steroids
Not even Rafael "Little Blue Diamonds" Palmiero hit that much..

hmmm.......interesting.....
Yeah - it's true. but does that make you HOF material???
hmmmmm....interesting......
Posted: November 15, 2005 1:29 pm
by RinglingRingling
mings wrote:sunseeker wrote:RinglingRingling wrote:mings wrote:RinglingRingling wrote:ph4ever wrote:actually you won't find it - it was on a pm he sent to me at BW
so three for four. Hit that life-time and you are a first-ballot Hall of Famer.

or on steroids
Not even Rafael "Little Blue Diamonds" Palmiero hit that much..

hmmm.......interesting.....
Yeah - it's true. but does that make you HOF material???
Say a 10 year career; hitting .750 lifetime... playing in more than 50 games a season.. probably.
Posted: November 15, 2005 1:32 pm
by rsgeist
RinglingRingling wrote:rsgeist wrote:iuparrothead wrote:On The Edge wrote:Tiki Bar wrote:ph4ever wrote:Personally I'd like to read the masters thesis that OTE wrote. When he and his wife were on the board under their "other" name they were extremely rude, insulting and instigating problems here. I fail to find how the insults and wishes of death made here correlate to childhood bullying. IMHO your reasearch "here" is extremely flawed as you don't know the background of the people you chose to target to bully.
I am of the same mindset. In my perspective, "he" or "they" was the bully, but unless I'm mistaken, the thesis was written based on that persona being on the receiving end of the bullying.
Misconceptions, Rumors, and inaccurate information are often the root of intolerance.
UGH!!! Take a look in the freakin' mirror then!!!
You're full of them in regards to BN! You come in here, sling insults and make rude insinuations about people for months & then insist on the misconception that BN is full of
exclusive cliques! BN doesn't exclude newcomers... they are most welcome. Ask mings,
ask rsgeist, aske davesnik, ask many, many others.
You are so full of crap. I'm all for inclusion... in society, in the workplace, in schools. But for you to boast about your academic exploits, yet come here and act the way you do is the biggest demonstration of hypocrisy I could ever find!!!
I can state, with absolute certainty, that this is true. Y'all insult me just as much as the long-timers!

(I feel so loved.) And Jodi always offers me popcorn - good times!
now if you could just get Christina to abuse you the way she wants to abuse Larry...

Hope springs eternal!

Posted: November 15, 2005 1:33 pm
by RinglingRingling
rsgeist wrote:RinglingRingling wrote:rsgeist wrote:I can state, with absolute certainty, that this is true. Y'all insult me just as much as the long-timers!

(I feel so loved.) And Jodi always offers me popcorn - good times!
now if you could just get Christina to abuse you the way she wants to abuse Larry...

Hope springs eternal!

Oh shut up with that goody-twoshoes crap..

Posted: November 15, 2005 1:34 pm
by carolinagirl
buffettbride wrote:I've had 2 misconceptions my entire life. One is named Victoria. She's 8. The other is named Tony. He's almost 2. Even though they were misconceptions, I'm still thrilled to have them.

Now this got me laughing...

I love you, Mal!
And I don't care if I'm in a clique or not, I love Buffett News!

Posted: November 15, 2005 1:35 pm
by rsgeist
RinglingRingling wrote:rsgeist wrote:RinglingRingling wrote:rsgeist wrote:I can state, with absolute certainty, that this is true. Y'all insult me just as much as the long-timers!

(I feel so loved.) And Jodi always offers me popcorn - good times!
now if you could just get Christina to abuse you the way she wants to abuse Larry...

Hope springs eternal!

Oh shut up with that goody-twoshoes crap..

Clique-monger!

Posted: November 15, 2005 1:35 pm
by LIPH
I'm not part of a clique. Why would I want to associate with any of you people?
that's a joke