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The End Of The Custom Surfboard???

Posted: December 6, 2005 3:22 pm
by Lastplaneout
Sad sad day...this came out of literally nowhere. There's gonna be some rough times ahead... Sooo many shapers use Clark, Glad I don't need to buy a new board :o


http://www.surfline.com/surfnews/2005_12_05_clark.cfm

Clark Foam closes its doors

by Marcus Sanders



Monday December 5th, 2005 was a dark day at shaping bays and in surf shops around the country. Orange County-based Clark Foam -- far and away the world's largest supplier of surfboard blanks -- shut its doors after over 45 years in business due to a series of ongoing environmental and safety concerns.

The main issue, as outlined by Gordon 'Grubby' Clark in a seven-page fax that was circulated among shapers today, is a toxic chemical in use at Clark Foam called Toluene Di Isocynate, commonly called TDI. Most companies using this chemical have already left California; in 1999, the federal Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) implemented a slightly weaker version of California's existing anti-TDI law, while California itself instituted stronger laws. The Orange County Fire Authority repeatedly reported Clark Foam to other government agencies, including the 9th district of the EPA, who gave the blank manufacturer a 10-page citation that is still unresolved. "The seriousness of the citation could mean that I have to go to prison and be fined an astronomical amount of money," Clark writes in the fax.

Other issues contributing to the closure were, according to the fax, polyester resin, dust, trash, and the fact that almost all the technology inside the factory was designed and/or built by Clark specifically for making surfboard blanks. And due to the fact that all Clark's equipment is original, the EPA claims is does not meet industry standards.

"The only apology I will make to customers and employees is that I should have seen this coming many years sooner and closed in a slower, more predictable manner" Clark writes. "I waited far too long, being optimistic rather than realistic."

The fax is slightly cryptic, because, as Clark writes, "I have been advised by my attorney to say as little as possible. I do not want this document to be used as an admission of wrongdoing nor am I going to help the government prosecute me." But while its explanations were less that clear, its effects were immediately felt around the world.

San Diego-based boardmaker Rusty Preisendorfer received his regular shipment of blanks at noon today, and the fax came through at 2pm. "It was a really heavy afternoon," Rusty said. "And it was really sudden -- I wish he'd have given us a little warning. I have a whole warehouse of employees to think about, not to mention everyone else in the industry."

And it's not just a few SoCal surf companies or shapers that'll be affected, either -- anyone that buys surfboards will be hit. It's estimated that 90% of the world's blanks came from Clark Foam. Grubby developed, designed and built all his own technology and guarded it ferociously and his well-known aggressive business practices and unending pursuit of innovation assured him the lion's share of the market. Sure, there are other blank manufactures in Australia and a few here in the US, but no one is prepared to deal with the huge gap left by Clark Foam's closure. Surfboard prices will go up overnight and shapers still aren't quite sure what will happen next.

Ryan Sakal, of Sakal Surfboards in Huntington Beach is concerned. "I've never used anything other than Clark Foam," he says. "I don't have any backup or any contacts on how to get anything else."

Some folks think Clark Foam's closure is the beginning of the end. "The culture around the custom shaper is getting smaller," Allan Seymour, longtime industry observer, surf auction organizer and friend of Clark's explained. "This is definitely the end of an era."

"In the short term, it's a really big challenge," Rusty continued. "But I'm sure we'll find other sources of foam."

Other big name shapers are reeling but optimistic as well. Rich Harbour of Harbour surfboards posted the following on his website: "I have been on the phone non-stop for the past 6 hours. I have talked to many old friends in the industry and we all are confident that this billion-dollar industry will survive. There are many options, such as Australian foam, overseas foam and PVC foam. Over the next few days we will look into all of these and come up with some solutions. We have a stock of blanks on hand, but customers will have to be a little more flexible on their choices. In closing, Harbour Surfboards has been at this since 1959 and have no thoughts of quitting. There will be a solution, and we will find it."

Gordon Clark himself sees an end of an era. "When Clark Foam started it was a far different California," he writes. "Businesses like Clark Foam were very welcome and considered the leading edge of innovation and technology. Somewhere along the way, things have changed."

Stay tuned to Surfline as this story unfolds.

Posted: December 6, 2005 3:45 pm
by land_shark3
I'm sure they will find another material to make boards out of. My industry is going through the same issue to become RoHS compliant. No more lead; along with about 93 other chemicals and compounds.

It is kind of funny that you have some of the tree-hugging surfers out there standing on chemicals that damage the environment.

Posted: December 6, 2005 4:05 pm
by rednekkPH
Does this chemical cause brain damage? Sure would explain alot...

Posted: December 6, 2005 4:19 pm
by land_shark3
rednekkPH wrote:Does this chemical cause brain damage? Sure would explain alot...
No... that's the chemicals in the wax. :wink:

Posted: December 6, 2005 9:20 pm
by Mr Play
Sounds like a great business opportunity for someone who knows how to make surfboard blanks. I wish I had some experience in the field...

Posted: December 6, 2005 11:15 pm
by bravedave
land_shark3 wrote:
rednekkPH wrote:Does this chemical cause brain damage? Sure would explain alot...
No... that's the chemicals in the wax. :wink:
How do you smoke wax?
(I already know how to smoke salmon)

Posted: December 6, 2005 11:20 pm
by Lastplaneout
Four Play wrote:Sounds like a great business opportunity for someone who knows how to make surfboard blanks. I wish I had some experience in the field...
well someone is going to have to find a new "environmentally sound" way to produce em. Cuz I know one thing..the day I buy an epoxy stick is the day...well...it's just the day.

Posted: December 6, 2005 11:28 pm
by Mr Play
Lastplaneout wrote:
Four Play wrote:Sounds like a great business opportunity for someone who knows how to make surfboard blanks. I wish I had some experience in the field...
well someone is going to have to find a new "environmentally sound" way to produce em. Cuz I know one thing..the day I buy an epoxy stick is the day...well...it's just the day.
At least for now, it sounds like it's just a problem with California law - so do it somewhere else.
Costa Rica is nice this time of year...

Posted: December 6, 2005 11:41 pm
by Elrod
Four Play wrote:At least for now, it sounds like it's just a problem with California law - so do it somewhere else.
Costa Rica is nice this time of year...
Looks like the problem is the use of TDI in the process, not the foam that is created.

It's only 100 miles from OC to the border.

If the employees moved to the San Diego area, they could walk across the border every morning and make the stuff in Tijuana (and not have to pay taxes on their earnings outside the U.S.).

Posted: December 6, 2005 11:49 pm
by Mr Play
Elrod wrote:
Four Play wrote:At least for now, it sounds like it's just a problem with California law - so do it somewhere else.
Costa Rica is nice this time of year...
Looks like the problem is the use of TDI in the process, not the foam that is created.

It's only 100 miles from OC to the border.

If the employees moved to the San Diego area, they could walk across the border every morning and make the stuff in Tijuana (and not have to pay taxes on their earnings outside the U.S.).
Bingo! Of course Costa Rica would be nice too...
I just wish I knew more about shaping surfboards...

Posted: December 7, 2005 12:31 am
by ragtopW
Elrod wrote:
Four Play wrote:At least for now, it sounds like it's just a problem with California law - so do it somewhere else.
Costa Rica is nice this time of year...
Looks like the problem is the use of TDI in the process, not the foam that is created.

It's only 100 miles from OC to the border.

If the employees moved to the San Diego area, they could walk across the border every morning and make the stuff in Tijuana (and not have to pay taxes on their earnings outside the U.S.).
Trust me... the Eyes of California Tax Board are on you...

Posted: December 7, 2005 12:53 am
by Lightning Bolt
ragtopW wrote:
Elrod wrote:
Four Play wrote:At least for now, it sounds like it's just a problem with California law - so do it somewhere else.
Costa Rica is nice this time of year...
Looks like the problem is the use of TDI in the process, not the foam that is created.

It's only 100 miles from OC to the border.

If the employees moved to the San Diego area, they could walk across the border every morning and make the stuff in Tijuana (and not have to pay taxes on their earnings outside the U.S.).
Trust me... the Eyes of California Tax Board are on you...
You're right, so you finance a shell corporation in San Diego, and lease a maquiladora in Tijuana. Employ Mexican workers (paid in pesos)
and NEARLY INVISIBLE environmental laws to produce loads of foam,
and with NAFTA protection, truck the product up to SD first, then out for complete U.S. distribution.

..but, then again, Nevada would probably pay nearly all your property tax to relocate there, too! :roll:

Posted: December 7, 2005 1:46 am
by Mr Play
Lightning Bolt wrote:
ragtopW wrote:
Elrod wrote:
Four Play wrote:At least for now, it sounds like it's just a problem with California law - so do it somewhere else.
Costa Rica is nice this time of year...
Looks like the problem is the use of TDI in the process, not the foam that is created.

It's only 100 miles from OC to the border.

If the employees moved to the San Diego area, they could walk across the border every morning and make the stuff in Tijuana (and not have to pay taxes on their earnings outside the U.S.).
Trust me... the Eyes of California Tax Board are on you...
You're right, so you finance a shell corporation in San Diego, and lease a maquiladora in Tijuana. Employ Mexican workers (paid in pesos)
and NEARLY INVISIBLE environmental laws to produce loads of foam,
and with NAFTA protection, truck the product up to SD first, then out for complete U.S. distribution.

..but, then again, Nevada would probably pay nearly all your property tax to relocate there, too! :roll:
And hire Clark to do all of the design work and training so everyone wins.
Sure it would be expensive, but we're talking about a NINETY PERCENT market share.
Someone stands to make a killing on this.

Does anyone else think JB might be interested in taking this on?

Posted: December 7, 2005 3:38 am
by Cousin Baxter
Yep, heard about this today from a friend who's a local shaper here in Orange County and he's freakin' out right now. Back in the day when we were groms we used to go to the shop itself and by blanks and try to make something that would look like a surfboard. Today is just not a good day for surfers. Just heard today as well that they are working on plans right now to put a road through San Onofre (one of Jimmy's favorite spots in So. Cal to surf).Which could cause wave condition problems for Trestles. :cry: Kind of interesting if you think about it. A sport of pure nature is being hampured by enviromental concerns. We're losing our huge producer of foam blanks for surfboards but for our biggest polluter (cars) we are expanding roadways onto coastal regions to encourage more traffic and possibly effected wave conditions. We'll see how this all shakes out. Story below.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051207/ap_ ... paradise_1

Posted: December 7, 2005 9:14 am
by rednekkPH
bravedave wrote:I already know how to smoke salmon
Can you gove me some pointers, I've been trying but I can never seem to keep one lit. :oops:

Posted: December 7, 2005 9:32 am
by OceanCityGirl
well someone is going to have to find a new "environmentally sound" way to produce em. Cuz I know one thing..the day I buy an epoxy stick is the day...well...it's just the day
haha. I remember when my one son was like 13 he spent a small fortune on an epoxy board. It fell over right onto a nail sticking out of the boardwalk, second day. This is when they were new. Nobody knew how to fix it and preserve the color in the epoxy. The salesman had told him it was indestructible and wouldn't fix it for him. Wanted to send it to cali and charge us.
To this day this son denies he ever had an epoxy board. LOl.
My sons and their friends are pretty worried about this. Most of them buy a new board every summer with part of their earnings. If the prices shoot to $800. that won't be happening for most of them. My one son is going to the shop today to see if prices have jumped. The small local company they buy their custom boards from, UM/uncle mike just switched to a new supplier last week. So they are one of the 10% who aren't getting their blanks from Clark. But they're so small that unless they signed some sort of contract they're going to get squeezed anyway.

Posted: December 7, 2005 10:11 am
by RinglingRingling
rednekkPH wrote:
bravedave wrote:I already know how to smoke salmon
Can you gove me some pointers, I've been trying but I can never seem to keep one lit. :oops:
you have to go with a punch-cut. a guillotine or v-cut makes for uneven draw...

Posted: December 7, 2005 10:13 am
by AlbatrossFlyer
if he really wanted to stay in business all he needed to do was to move to NV, AZ or 100 miles down the road to mexico.....

Posted: December 7, 2005 10:14 am
by RinglingRingling
AlbatrossFlyer wrote:if he really wanted to stay in business all he needed to do was to move to NV, AZ or 100 miles down the road to mexico.....
there are probably ways to dismantle the factory/operation to make that move possible too...