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Posted: January 11, 2006 6:37 pm
by jonesbeach10
A Balding Fan wrote:
Crazy Navy Flyer wrote:
A Balding Fan wrote:
prrthd1987 wrote:Awesome! They should do that nationwide :D

NEVER

Second Hand Smoke has NEVER killed anyone at all.

If you do not like smoking in a certain resturant or bar, plain and simple JUST DONT GO THERE.

It is a proven fact that smokers are better tippers. They stay after the meal, light up, and are happy. They are also more likely to have a drink with the ciggerate, which inturns makes a bigger check.

I will not support any resturant that does not allow smoking at all.

First you outlaw smoking, next they are gonna make all the girls in Gentelmens Clubs wear full clothing.

I RECOMMEND anyone who is for smoking bans to check out Penn and Teller's ***** episode on Second Hand Smoke. YOU WILL LEARN THE TRUTHS.
Wrong. Dr Penn and Dr Peller are not experts on the subject. Second hand smoke has killed.

I'm not for government interference in my life, just enough to protect me from others.

I say again, smokers are stupid, they're addicts, owned by and paying the cig companies that are poisioning them.

If someone lights up next to me in a restaurant I will assume they are on fire and take all necessary action to put out the fire.
DID I SAY THEY WERE EXPERTS? NO I DID NOT.

Check out the show---they go to the experts in the show.
Jon Stewart brings in experts in on his show to "analyze" the top stories. Does that mean I'm going believe them 100%? No.
I'm not going to Penn & Teller to tell me that second-hand smoke is okay, because I know it's not. I'm glad the law was passed.

And if you say that it hasn't killed anyone, Google says different.
"Effects of Second Hand Smoke"---try it yourself
http://mo.essortment.com/secondhandsmok_rxgs.htm
Second hand smoke inhalation causes increased risk of lung infections and lung diseases such as pneumonia, bronchitis, asthma, emphysema, cancer, as well as, ear infections, sinus problems, heart disease, strokes, nose, eye and throat irritation, nausea, dizziness and headache. Not to mention stains on clothes and material and a very unpleasant smell that gets onto to your body and into your hair and clothes.

The American Lung Association reported that 20% of the population is at risk of developing lung disease from second hand smoke. There is sufficient documented studies on the dangers of second hand smoke. Also called passive smoking, non-smokers who breathe second hand smoke from smokers have an increased chance of developing lung cancer. If you live with a smoker, you have a 30% increased chance of getting lung cancer or having a heart attack. Tobacco specific carcinogens have been found in the blood and urine of nonsmokers who were exposed to environmental tobacco smoke.

The NE Journal of Medicine 1993 reports that children and infants living with smokers have increased instances and chances of ear infections, bronchitis, and asthma. Also, studies have linked infant deaths with asthma to in house smokers.
http://www.entnet.org/healthinfo/tobacc ... _smoke.cfm
Secondhand smoke is a combination of the smoke from a burning cigarette and the smoke exhaled by the smoker. Also known as environmental tobacco smoke (ETS), it can be recognized easily by its distinctive odor...
Secondhand Smoke And Its Effect On...
The fetus and newborn: Maternal, fetal, and placental blood flow change when pregnant women smoke, although the long-term health effects of these changes are not known. Some studies suggest that smoking during pregnancy causes birth defects such as cleft lip or palate. Smoking mothers produce less milk, and their babies have a lower birth weight. Maternal smoking also is associated with neonatal death from Sudden Infant Death Syndrome, the major cause of death in infants between one month and one year of age.

Children's lungs and respiratory tracts: Exposure to ETS decreases lung efficiency and impairs lung function in children of all ages. It increases both the frequency and severity of childhood asthma. Secondhand smoke can aggravate sinusitis, rhinitis, cystic fibrosis, and chronic respiratory problems such as cough and postnasal drip. It also increases the number of children's colds and sore throats. In children under two years of age, ETS exposure increases the likelihood of bronchitis and pneumonia. In fact, a 1992 study by the Environmental Protection Agency says ETS causes 150,000 to 300,000 lower respiratory tract infections each year in infants and children under 18 months of age. These illnesses result in as many as 15,000 hospitalizations. Children of parents who smoke half a pack a day or more are at nearly double the risk of hospitalization for a respiratory illness.

The Ears: Exposure to ETS increases both the number of ear infections a child will experience, and the duration of the illness. Inhaled smoke irritates the eustachian tube, which connects the back of the nose with the middle ear. This causes swelling and obstruction which interferes with pressure equalization in the middle ear, leading to pain, fluid and infection. Ear infections are the most common cause of children's hearing loss. When they do not respond to medical treatment, the surgical insertion of tubes into the ears is often required.

The Brain: Children of mothers who smoked during pregnancy are more likely to suffer behavioral problems such as hyperactivity than children of non-smoking mothers. Modest impairment in school performance and intellectual achievement have also been demonstrated.

Secondhand Smoke Causes Cancer You have just read how ETS harms the development of your child, but did you know that your risk of developing cancer from ETS is about 100 times greater than from outdoor cancer-causing pollutants? Did you know that ETS causes more than 3,000 non-smokers to die of lung cancer each year? While these facts are quite alarming for everyone, you can stop your child's exposure to secondhand smoke right now.
http://www.lungusa.org/site/pp.asp?c=dv ... =35422#one
Secondhand Smoke Fact Sheet
November 2004

Secondhand smoke, also know as environmental tobacco smoke, is a mixture of the smoke given off by the burning end of a cigarette, pipe or cigar and the smoke exhaled from the lungs of smokers. It is involuntarily inhaled by nonsmokers, lingers in the air hours after cigarettes have been extinguished and can cause or exacerbates a wide range of adverse health effects, including cancer, respiratory infections, and asthma.

-Secondhand smoke has been classified by the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) as a known cause of cancer in humans (Group A carcinogen).
-Secondhand smoke causes approximately 3,000 lung cancer deaths and 35,000 heart disease deaths in adult nonsmokers in the United States each year.
-A study found that nonsmokers exposed to environmental smoke were 25 percent more likely to have coronary heart diseases compared to nonsmokers not exposed to smoke.
-Nonsmokers exposed to secondhand smoke at work are at increased risk for adverse health effects. Levels of ETS in restaurants and bars were found to be 2 to 5 times higher than in residences with smokers and 2 to 6 times higher than in office workplaces.
-Since 1999, 70 percent of the U.S. workforce worked under a smoke-free policy, ranging from 83.9 percent in Utah to 48.7 percent in Nevada. Workplace productivity was increased and absenteeism was decreased among former smokers compared with current smokers.
-Secondhand smoke is especially harmful to young children. Secondhand smoke is responsible for between 150,000 and 300,000 lower respiratory tract infections in infants and children under 18 months of age, resulting in between 7,500 and 15,000 hospitalizations each year, and causes 1,900 to 2,700 sudden infant death syndrome (SIDS) deaths in the United States annually.
-Secondhand smoke exposure may cause buildup of fluid in the middle ear, resulting in 700,000 to 1.6 million physician office visits per year.
-Secondhand smoke can also aggravate symptoms in 200,000 to 1,000,000 children with asthma.
-In the United States, 21 million, or 35 percent of, children live in homes where residents or visitors smoke in the home on a regular basis.
-Approximately 50-75 percent of children in the United States have detectable levels of cotinine, the breakdown product of nicotine in the blood.
-New research indicates that secret research conducted by cigarette company Philip Morris in the 1980s showed that secondhand smoke was highly toxic, yet the company suppressed the finding during the next two decades.
-For more information on secondhand smoke, please review the Tobacco Morbidity and Mortality Trend Report as well as our Lung Disease Data publication in the Data and Statistics section of our website, or call the American Lung Association at 1-800-LUNG-USA (1-800-586-4872).
I could keep going but I'm sure you get the picture.

Posted: January 12, 2006 10:31 am
by iuparrothead
jonesbeach10 wrote:I could keep going but I'm sure you get the picture.
But then again... non-smokers who don't want to be endangered by second hand smoke are just supposed to avoid smoking establishments... it's that simple, right? :roll:

Posted: January 12, 2006 3:36 pm
by jonesbeach10
iuparrothead wrote:
jonesbeach10 wrote:I could keep going but I'm sure you get the picture.
But then again... non-smokers who don't want to be endangered by second hand smoke are just supposed to avoid smoking establishments... it's that simple, right? :roll:
So then shouldn't it work the other way that if you really need to smoke while you eat when you go out, you should avoid New Jersey, New York City, or any other places where this is now illegal? :lol: :roll:

Posted: January 12, 2006 3:45 pm
by iuparrothead
jonesbeach10 wrote:
iuparrothead wrote:
jonesbeach10 wrote:I could keep going but I'm sure you get the picture.
But then again... non-smokers who don't want to be endangered by second hand smoke are just supposed to avoid smoking establishments... it's that simple, right? :roll:
So then shouldn't it work the other way that if you really need to smoke while you eat when you go out, you should avoid New Jersey, New York City, or any other places where this is now illegal? :lol: :roll:
roflmao! :lol: