Send those in the Xmas care package next year...sy wrote:and I make some mean brownies, too!!!buffettbride wrote: Reason number #101 why BB needs to move to PA. Greater horticultural opportunites.
Organically grown food
Moderator: SMLCHNG
-
buffettbride
- Last Man Standing
- Posts: 32700
- Joined: April 6, 2004 11:43 am
- Number of Concerts: 5
- Favorite Boat Drink: Cuba Libre
Re: Organically grown food

-
rednekkPH
- Party at the End of the World
- Posts: 8886
- Joined: June 25, 2003 2:29 pm
- Number of Concerts: 0
- Location: 22 miles from the nearest traffic light
- Contact:
A good daily beating would have the same effect without the extra cost of organic foods.Y-NO-9-O wrote:A friend has 2 children who were borderline ADD. Before chemicalizing them, someone told her to speak to an allergist. The allergist explained that the children's behavior could be from the additives and such. She now feeds them only organic food and they have had no problems since. Coincidence? I don't think so.

-
buffettbride
- Last Man Standing
- Posts: 32700
- Joined: April 6, 2004 11:43 am
- Number of Concerts: 5
- Favorite Boat Drink: Cuba Libre
rednekkPH wrote:A good daily beating would have the same effect without the extra cost of organic foods.Y-NO-9-O wrote:A friend has 2 children who were borderline ADD. Before chemicalizing them, someone told her to speak to an allergist. The allergist explained that the children's behavior could be from the additives and such. She now feeds them only organic food and they have had no problems since. Coincidence? I don't think so.
Bad Frankie! Baaaad!

-
ph4ever
- Last Man Standing
- Posts: 50507
- Joined: July 31, 2002 1:26 pm
- Favorite Buffett Song: CILCIA or OPH
- Number of Concerts: 299
- Favorite Boat Drink: Rhum with my Chum or beer
- Location: Home in the GREAT state of Texas!
- Contact:
Y-NO-9-O wrote:A friend has 2 children who were borderline ADD. Before chemicalizing them, someone told her to speak to an allergist. The allergist explained that the children's behavior could be from the additives and such. She now feeds them only organic food and they have had no problems since. Coincidence? I don't think so.
this not only happens with children but people suffering from other ailments, migraines for example. The aspartame(sp) in so many different diet products should be a lethal weapon.
Well...(said in my best Bubba voice) I've been on sabbatical.
-
3/4 Time
- Living & Dying in 3/4 time
- Posts: 2854
- Joined: May 13, 2001 8:00 pm
- Number of Concerts: 0
- Location: Same as it ever was...
Re: Organically grown food
95% of it is the type/quality of the seed......ph4ever wrote:sy wrote:Well, duh, that's why you build an enclosed closet in your basement and learn the fine art of hydroponics and lighting.rednekkPH wrote:That's fine, as long as your neighbors don't rat you out.sy wrote:It's actually much cheaper to either grow your own
...not that I would know anything about that, of course....
got to have a good ventalation going too
.......not that I know anything about that either
Keep America Beautiful
-
mings
- Lester Polyester
- Posts: 7268
- Joined: August 26, 2005 3:15 pm
- Number of Concerts: 0
- Location: actually? the Concrete Jungle. Mentally? under a palm tree
If it tastes good, eat it. Some stuff is just a waste, but soem probably is good for you. The rest is crap and stop letting her buy the crap.
"Oh all the money that e'er I spent, I spent it in good company.
And all the harm that I ever did, Alas it was to none but me.
And since it falls, unto my lot, that I should rise and you should not
I'll gently rise and I'll softly call, 'Goodnight and Joy be with you all.'"
-JMH
And all the harm that I ever did, Alas it was to none but me.
And since it falls, unto my lot, that I should rise and you should not
I'll gently rise and I'll softly call, 'Goodnight and Joy be with you all.'"
-JMH
-
sy
- Lester Polyester
- Posts: 7503
- Joined: April 20, 2005 1:49 pm
- Favorite Buffett Song: Lage Nom Ai
- Number of Concerts: 24
- Favorite Boat Drink: Bahama Mama
- Location: Lovely Montgomery County, PA
- Contact:
Re: Organically grown food
Mostly true. I've had cr*p seeds that were years old that I managed to make pretty good. It's all in the loving care3/4 Time wrote: 95% of it is the type/quality of the seed......
(Actually, I think hydroponics just makes for a cleaner plant)
Cooking is like love. It should be entered into with abandon or not at all..
-
sy
- Lester Polyester
- Posts: 7503
- Joined: April 20, 2005 1:49 pm
- Favorite Buffett Song: Lage Nom Ai
- Number of Concerts: 24
- Favorite Boat Drink: Bahama Mama
- Location: Lovely Montgomery County, PA
- Contact:
Re: Organically grown food
I'd rather make you come visit mebuffettbride wrote: Send those in the Xmas care package next year...
Cooking is like love. It should be entered into with abandon or not at all..
-
ph4ever
- Last Man Standing
- Posts: 50507
- Joined: July 31, 2002 1:26 pm
- Favorite Buffett Song: CILCIA or OPH
- Number of Concerts: 299
- Favorite Boat Drink: Rhum with my Chum or beer
- Location: Home in the GREAT state of Texas!
- Contact:
Re: Organically grown food
3/4 Time wrote:95% of it is the type/quality of the seed......ph4ever wrote:sy wrote:Well, duh, that's why you build an enclosed closet in your basement and learn the fine art of hydroponics and lighting.rednekkPH wrote:That's fine, as long as your neighbors don't rat you out.sy wrote:It's actually much cheaper to either grow your own
...not that I would know anything about that, of course....
got to have a good ventalation going too
.......not that I know anything about that either
kevorkian, white widow
Well...(said in my best Bubba voice) I've been on sabbatical.
-
buffettbride
- Last Man Standing
- Posts: 32700
- Joined: April 6, 2004 11:43 am
- Number of Concerts: 5
- Favorite Boat Drink: Cuba Libre
Re: Organically grown food
Twist my arm...sy wrote:I'd rather make you come visit mebuffettbride wrote: Send those in the Xmas care package next year...
(Interestingly, we are planning on spending the holiday's somewhere other than home....)

-
ph4ever
- Last Man Standing
- Posts: 50507
- Joined: July 31, 2002 1:26 pm
- Favorite Buffett Song: CILCIA or OPH
- Number of Concerts: 299
- Favorite Boat Drink: Rhum with my Chum or beer
- Location: Home in the GREAT state of Texas!
- Contact:
Re: Organically grown food
rednekkPH wrote:
who is talking drugs?? We're talking organically grown things doofus
Well...(said in my best Bubba voice) I've been on sabbatical.
-
sy
- Lester Polyester
- Posts: 7503
- Joined: April 20, 2005 1:49 pm
- Favorite Buffett Song: Lage Nom Ai
- Number of Concerts: 24
- Favorite Boat Drink: Bahama Mama
- Location: Lovely Montgomery County, PA
- Contact:
Re: Organically grown food
Sweet tooth, Northern Lightsph4ever wrote:
kevorkian, white widow
Cooking is like love. It should be entered into with abandon or not at all..
-
3/4 Time
- Living & Dying in 3/4 time
- Posts: 2854
- Joined: May 13, 2001 8:00 pm
- Number of Concerts: 0
- Location: Same as it ever was...
Re: Organically grown food
Williams Wonder, Victor Barnesy wrote:Sweet tooth, Northern Lightsph4ever wrote:
kevorkian, white widow
Keep America Beautiful
-
krusin1
- License to Chill
- Posts: 1397
- Joined: August 31, 2003 10:14 pm
- Favorite Buffett Song: A Pirate Looks at 40
- Number of Concerts: 7
- Favorite Boat Drink: loaded Corona
- Location: By the River...
chemicals, etc.
Former agriculture teacher here...
If you like organic, and think it's better, fine, buy it. However, with the exception of the small % of folks who are very sensitive, the chemicals, pesticides, etc. are going to be a non-factor in your life. There's just not enough of them there to cause a problem.
As for kids maturing earlier, it's not the growth hormones/chemical/whatever. It's simply the fact that today's generation is better fed than any previous. Yes, they eat junk food, but they also get plenty of it, vitamin enriched breads, daily vitamins, etc. etc. etc. Going back over a hundred years, the average person (man OR woman) has been getting taller for the exact same reasons.
As for taste, it's true that the stuff you buy at farmer's markets is probably going to taste better. Again, it's not the chemicals. It's actually the variety of tomato/corn/whatever.
The tomatos you buy in stores are of a variety that was bred to have a tougher skin (bruises less) and a longer shelf life. Helps stores have produce that looks nice with minimal waste. Problem is that they did NOT select for taste, thus store tomatos just don't taste as good.
The farmer's market guys, though, can buy and grow varieties that ARE bred for taste because they don't have the shipping/storage worries that grocery stores do.
Also, quick note on organic or range-grown chickens/turkeys. These also are probably going to taste different/better than what you'll buy in stores. The reason is the diet. Chickens/turkeys raised in cage operations receive a very homogenized diet. Same stuff every day. "Range" birds, though get to eat bugs, other plants, etc., and that variety in diet causes their meat to have more flavor. If you happen into some range birds that got into a lot of wild onions, they may have a LOT of flavor.
So... there you are.
If you like organic, and think it's better, fine, buy it. However, with the exception of the small % of folks who are very sensitive, the chemicals, pesticides, etc. are going to be a non-factor in your life. There's just not enough of them there to cause a problem.
As for kids maturing earlier, it's not the growth hormones/chemical/whatever. It's simply the fact that today's generation is better fed than any previous. Yes, they eat junk food, but they also get plenty of it, vitamin enriched breads, daily vitamins, etc. etc. etc. Going back over a hundred years, the average person (man OR woman) has been getting taller for the exact same reasons.
As for taste, it's true that the stuff you buy at farmer's markets is probably going to taste better. Again, it's not the chemicals. It's actually the variety of tomato/corn/whatever.
The tomatos you buy in stores are of a variety that was bred to have a tougher skin (bruises less) and a longer shelf life. Helps stores have produce that looks nice with minimal waste. Problem is that they did NOT select for taste, thus store tomatos just don't taste as good.
The farmer's market guys, though, can buy and grow varieties that ARE bred for taste because they don't have the shipping/storage worries that grocery stores do.
Also, quick note on organic or range-grown chickens/turkeys. These also are probably going to taste different/better than what you'll buy in stores. The reason is the diet. Chickens/turkeys raised in cage operations receive a very homogenized diet. Same stuff every day. "Range" birds, though get to eat bugs, other plants, etc., and that variety in diet causes their meat to have more flavor. If you happen into some range birds that got into a lot of wild onions, they may have a LOT of flavor.
So... there you are.
-
mings
- Lester Polyester
- Posts: 7268
- Joined: August 26, 2005 3:15 pm
- Number of Concerts: 0
- Location: actually? the Concrete Jungle. Mentally? under a palm tree
too many words - can someone give me the cliff's notes version.
"Oh all the money that e'er I spent, I spent it in good company.
And all the harm that I ever did, Alas it was to none but me.
And since it falls, unto my lot, that I should rise and you should not
I'll gently rise and I'll softly call, 'Goodnight and Joy be with you all.'"
-JMH
And all the harm that I ever did, Alas it was to none but me.
And since it falls, unto my lot, that I should rise and you should not
I'll gently rise and I'll softly call, 'Goodnight and Joy be with you all.'"
-JMH
-
Cubbie Bear
- On a Salty Piece of Land
- Posts: 13723
- Joined: October 14, 2003 1:31 pm
- Favorite Buffett Song: Pirate/40
- Number of Concerts: 31
- Location: Sooner or later, everyone goes to the zoo.
-
mings
- Lester Polyester
- Posts: 7268
- Joined: August 26, 2005 3:15 pm
- Number of Concerts: 0
- Location: actually? the Concrete Jungle. Mentally? under a palm tree
oh - okay. Is it lunch time yet?rednekkPH wrote:Food is good.mings wrote:too many words - can someone give me the cliff's notes version.
"Oh all the money that e'er I spent, I spent it in good company.
And all the harm that I ever did, Alas it was to none but me.
And since it falls, unto my lot, that I should rise and you should not
I'll gently rise and I'll softly call, 'Goodnight and Joy be with you all.'"
-JMH
And all the harm that I ever did, Alas it was to none but me.
And since it falls, unto my lot, that I should rise and you should not
I'll gently rise and I'll softly call, 'Goodnight and Joy be with you all.'"
-JMH


