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Posted: January 28, 2006 8:13 pm
by cowboyjunkie
A Balding Fan wrote:
cowboyjunkie wrote:
Quiet and Shy wrote: The current system inappropriately subsidizes brokers at the expense of fans and artists...and that's not pure capitalism.
Well said.

I am very impressed with U2's handling of their current tour. I logged into Ticketbastard, grabbed the cheapest tickets (only$65), and can stand in line for a front row spot. By inverting the floorplan, the GA lawn seats are around the stage and the rich yuppies can pay a broker $500 for a reserved seat towards the back where they can arrive later and valet their Escalade. The real fans benefit!
Yeap---They benefit from a 20 minute rant on why they arent sending all of the money they make to 3rd world countrys becasuse Bono thinks he is some sort of god on some high horse.

Bono gets them close so they can hear him, and those so close think hes god they will do anything he says.
The irony of the last sentence is staggering on a Parrothead site!

Personally, I like to know where my favorite artists stand. Fortunately, most have been very open about their views (Cowboy Junkies, Ani Difranco, Bruce Springsteen, etc.) and I support them even when I do not totally agree. As I grow older, I become more and more uncomfortable with Jimmy's silence. Recording a song with Toby Keith was very close to the edge for me given Keith's ethnocentric songwriting.

Posted: January 28, 2006 8:19 pm
by SchoolGirlHeart
cowboyjunkie wrote:Personally, I like to know where my favorite artists stand. Fortunately, most have been very open about their views (Cowboy Junkies, Ani Difranco, Bruce Springsteen, etc.) and I support them even when I do not totally agree. As I grow older, I become more and more uncomfortable with Jimmy's silence. Recording a song with Toby Keith was very close to the edge for me given Keith's ethnocentric songwriting.
That's the LAST thing I want to hear when they're on stage. I pay to hear music, not rhetoric.

Posted: January 28, 2006 8:56 pm
by Zanzibar
SchoolGirlHeart wrote:
cowboyjunkie wrote:Personally, I like to know where my favorite artists stand. Fortunately, most have been very open about their views (Cowboy Junkies, Ani Difranco, Bruce Springsteen, etc.) and I support them even when I do not totally agree. As I grow older, I become more and more uncomfortable with Jimmy's silence. Recording a song with Toby Keith was very close to the edge for me given Keith's ethnocentric songwriting.
That's the LAST thing I want to hear when they're on stage. I pay to hear music, not rhetoric.
Couldn't agree with you more SGH

Posted: January 28, 2006 9:00 pm
by SchoolGirlHeart
I APPRECIATE Jimmy's silence onstage! He has his say when he's offstage, and supports the candidates he'd like to see win elections. He plays fundraisers for his chosen candidates. All cool. But I want music and escapism when I pay money for a show, not friggin' politics, and so far, Jimmy's delivered!

(And no, it doesn't matter one iota whether or not I agree with Jimmy's or any other performer's political position. Whether I agree or disagree with the perfomer's politics, I do NOT want to hear it during an entertainment event. Keep the politics at the political events and fundraisers.)

Posted: January 28, 2006 11:10 pm
by cowboyjunkie
SchoolGirlHeart wrote:
cowboyjunkie wrote:Personally, I like to know where my favorite artists stand. Fortunately, most have been very open about their views (Cowboy Junkies, Ani Difranco, Bruce Springsteen, etc.) and I support them even when I do not totally agree. As I grow older, I become more and more uncomfortable with Jimmy's silence. Recording a song with Toby Keith was very close to the edge for me given Keith's ethnocentric songwriting.
That's the LAST thing I want to hear when they're on stage. I pay to hear music, not rhetoric.
I agree in that a concert is not the time to lecture a crowd. However, I would hope their beliefs color their art and how they go about the business of music. It goes beyond politics.

Posted: January 29, 2006 9:28 am
by miphinz
Im in the same boat. Every day I look on line to see if the new tour dates are out yet, and was very happy to find out about the PA show. However when I went to look in to getting tickets I was very dissapointed to see that tickets were any where from $135.00 to $1,000.00 befroe the show had even been announced on this site. Something must be done.

Posted: January 29, 2006 9:32 am
by SchoolGirlHeart
cowboyjunkie wrote:I agree in that a concert is not the time to lecture a crowd. However, I would hope their beliefs color their art and how they go about the business of music. It goes beyond politics.
Less politics, I really think Jimmy DOES do that. There's definitely a "Don't take like so seriously" theme to a large percentage of his songs.

Posted: January 29, 2006 10:22 am
by SanibelIsland
miphinz wrote:Im in the same boat. Every day I look on line to see if the new tour dates are out yet, and was very happy to find out about the PA show. However when I went to look in to getting tickets I was very dissapointed to see that tickets were any where from $135.00 to $1,000.00 befroe the show had even been announced on this site. Something must be done.


Did you not read what I posted??

SPECULATION GET IT THROUGH YOUR HEAD.

Posted: January 29, 2006 12:40 pm
by Quiet and Shy
SanibelIsland wrote:
miphinz wrote:Im in the same boat. Every day I look on line to see if the new tour dates are out yet, and was very happy to find out about the PA show. However when I went to look in to getting tickets I was very dissapointed to see that tickets were any where from $135.00 to $1,000.00 befroe the show had even been announced on this site. Something must be done.


Did you not read what I posted??

SPECULATION GET IT THROUGH YOUR HEAD.
Take it easy, Sanibel...the "speculation" you refer to is a first indicator for what secondary market prices will be. Even though no tickets are yet "in hand" it gives us all a sense of what the picture will look like...and some are just disappointed in what they see.

Welcome to BN miphinz. :D

Posted: January 29, 2006 12:48 pm
by Quiet and Shy
SchoolGirlHeart wrote:
cowboyjunkie wrote:I agree in that a concert is not the time to lecture a crowd. However, I would hope their beliefs color their art and how they go about the business of music. It goes beyond politics.
Less politics, I really think Jimmy DOES do that. There's definitely a "Don't take like so seriously" theme to a large percentage of his songs.
Jimmy's very aware that people come to shows to "escape" so he wisely avoids politics while on stage. Offstage, I don't always agree with everything or everyone he supports, but what I do appreciate and respect is he does vs. just talks and seeks headlines about stuff.