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This is very disheartening to me. As someone who pays a lot of attention to the latest health trends...I was hooked on soy's benefits. I add soy and soy based products to everything hoping that it was as healthy as they said...now, 10 years later, they say it was all BS???
What's next...olive oil is not good for us either??

I pay little attention to health trends...don't go on fad diets, not a vegetarian or anything.

Ironically, I'm healthier than most of my friends.

Coincidence?

Anything that tastes and smells like that - cant be good for you!

I dont go in to all the food trends - people who stress about what they can and cant eat - end up stressed

I guess that's what bothers me so much...I don't fall for fads and trends...I look at medical, scientific data and decide if something is healthy and will benefit my health...scares me what they can convince us is good for us. Not that I have done any harm to myself by eating soy, it is just the false data that showed it was very beneficial...

I'm still going to snack on soy nuts.

I remember reading that back in the 60's everyone thought Red Meat was good for you.

maybe you should pay attention less to health trends. too much of anything is un good.

mings wrote:maybe you should pay attention less to health trends. too much of anything is un good.

clean, fresh air?

RinglingRingling wrote:

mings wrote:maybe you should pay attention less to health trends. too much of anything is un good.

clean, fresh air?

I was waiting for you to chime in there....

Left himself wide open....Poor pepe.....

Prthd119 wrote:

RinglingRingling wrote:

mings wrote:maybe you should pay attention less to health trends. too much of anything is un good.

clean, fresh air?

I was waiting for you to chime in there....

Left himself wide open....Poor pepe.....

too much fresh air is not good for a prawn tho

Prthd119 wrote:

RinglingRingling wrote:

mings wrote:maybe you should pay attention less to health trends. too much of anything is un good.

clean, fresh air?

I was waiting for you to chime in there....

Left himself wide open....Poor pepe.....

dear?

21!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

kitty wrote:I guess that's what bothers me so much...I don't fall for fads and trends...I look at medical, scientific data and decide if something is healthy and will benefit my health...scares me what they can convince us is good for us. Not that I have done any harm to myself by eating soy, it is just the false data that showed it was very beneficial...

But remember most of what you read, even if in reputable periodicals, is still an interpretation of the actual published data. Rarely, does the public read (and subsequently interpret for themselves) the actual findings in the source medical journal. The AHA probably wants to scale back the popular assumption that soy products are a cure-all. That's how manufacturers are marketing soy and it's probably never what the researchers & AHA intended the widespread public to see, hear and believe. In the end, soy products are still very healthy and worthwhile to keep in our diets because, as suggested in the article you posted, soy products are great substutes for high-fat/high-cholesterol foods. For the most part that's why I choose to eat soy products... for the low-fat aspect and good source of protein.

I don't know if soy is bad for you or not. I mean I don't go out of my way to eat it but I do use soy sauce and bean sprouts in some of my cookings but I refuse to eat tofu.....does anyone really eat that? Imean people say they do, but when PETA gives away Tofu Turkeys I am leery of it. It has no taste in and of itself... so what do they add to it to make it taste like anything at all?

I don't really believe red meat is bad for us. ( barring any sort of allergies, digestive disorders, or whatever to the meat itself) I think it is all of the growth hormones and chemical additives and preservitives that make it so bad for people. As the consumer of the meat , we are more or less the end user product. Those chemicals and additives eventually have an ultimate effect somewhere......

Maybe that is the same way soy and all of the fertilizers, insecticides, processing and what not that makes it bad? Or is the trend now to say it is bad?

I don't eat within the reccommended goverment guidelines and I don't know anyone that does. I don't follow any particular diet or fad foods.

Listen to your body...and not your mind, It will tell you what you need more than what your mind tells you what you want.

kitty wrote:http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060124/ap_ ... y_health_6

This is very disheartening to me. As someone who pays a lot of attention to the latest health trends...I was hooked on soy's benefits. I add soy and soy based products to everything hoping that it was as healthy as they said...now, 10 years later, they say it was all BS???
What's next...olive oil is not good for us either??

The story isn't saying it's not good for you - it's just saying it doesn't do things like lower cholesterol - it does not say it raises cholesterol like red meat and the like can do.

"They're good to replace other foods that are high in cholesterol."

Which is why I don't eat red meat and will continue to eat my Morningstar Farms Veggie patties.

iuparrothead wrote:

kitty wrote:I guess that's what bothers me so much...I don't fall for fads and trends...I look at medical, scientific data and decide if something is healthy and will benefit my health...scares me what they can convince us is good for us. Not that I have done any harm to myself by eating soy, it is just the false data that showed it was very beneficial...

But remember most of what you read, even if in reputable periodicals, is still an interpretation of the actual published data. Rarely, does the public read (and subsequently interpret for themselves) the actual findings in the source medical journal. The AHA probably wants to scale back the popular assumption that soy products are a cure-all. That's how manufacturers are marketing soy and it's probably never what the researchers & AHA intended the widespread public to see, hear and believe. In the end, soy products are still very healthy and worthwhile to keep in our diets because, as suggested in the article you posted, soy products are great substutes for high-fat/high-cholesterol foods. For the most part that's why I choose to eat soy products... for the low-fat aspect and good source of protein.

I definitely agree with you that the actual published data is different from what people are actually told.
Like the first things that came about cholesterol being bad....then the marketing started added the label cholesterol free ..even to products that never had it .
Then we find out there is good and there is bad cholesterol.

So as the old saying goes....buyer beware. We do the best we can with what we got.

Imma still eat my soy stuff. Can't hurt.

Not drinking outta plastic bottles anymore though . . .

My grandma has been nuts on soy crap for years...and has been a psychotic vegetarian for as long as i've known her. I read this online the other day. It made me chuckle. Bring on the cow!

I was a vegetarian for 20 years until a few years ago when I started eating fowl. Actually one of my kids favorite meals is fried Tofu cutlets. But anyway when I started, I read a good book which said if you eat a diverse diet you will be OK. Eat a little bit of everything and vitimans will not be necessery. That is a good philosophy to follow.

Moderation and diversity.

And GOOD chocolate!!!


Carry on.