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Posted: February 22, 2006 3:45 pm
by rednekkPH
live2ski wrote:Being a resident of the Mountain West, nothing annoys me more than when someone from New York tells me what should happen in my neck of the woods.
Speaking of such things, in-line and percussion cap muzzleloaders are for girls. :lol:

Posted: February 22, 2006 3:48 pm
by live2ski
Sam wrote:
live2ski wrote:
Sam wrote:
live2ski wrote:Captive Bolt Gun is the most commonly used.
Yes I know they execute animals that way. It is more or less "accepted as humane" way to kill the animal.
Do you eat beef? Do you head over to your local burger joint and chow down a double?

The same animal rights wackos that say that killing a seal is bad, usually also protest the use of a captive bolt gun. The only way to stop this is to boycott the product.

However, that being said, I can honestly say "I don't care what a few Canuckians do in their country"

Being a resident of the Mountain West, nothing annoys me more than when someone from New York tells me what should happen in my neck of the woods. Thus, why should I tell Beaver trappers what they should do in theirs?
Yes I eat beef, pork, chicken, venison, and oither critters and almost anything else that does not eat me first.

Thank you for proving my point that there are people that disagree with the form of killing and about what is humane. We have various wacko groups like PETA ( NOT the PEOPLE EAT TASTY ANIMALS, The other ones that protested RATS HAVE RIGHTS and what not)
Not everyone that believes the killing of young seals should be stopped, is a member of PETA or any other ecoterrorist group, or a member of some other organization that cares about animals.

Personally I don't think anyone could really care more about animals and their survival and conservation than a dedicated hunter. Hunters lose lands, game becomes more scarce as habitats are destroyed and not replenished. the dedicated hunter truly knows this and loves and cares for the land. I will grant thee are poachers and others that hunt that do not give the art or sport of hunting a good name.People are people. Good and Bad.


The whole situation the way I see it, falls back on the fishing industry. Seals eat fish and thus are in competition with the fishermen. Like the usal human reaction, eliminate the predators....which causes more damage to the enviroment in the end.
The fishermen came up with a way to supplement their income and eliminate the seal problem and to market their hides and fur.

I don't know if there is a serious market for seal meat, I don't see it in stores and I am pretty sure a seal cub is not going to provide much meat anyway.

What do you mean we can't tell a country what to do? They do it to us all the time. The U.N does it all the time. (Of course the U.N is quite ineffective other than a mouthpiece.) It is done to us by people in our own country everyday. You can't wear this flag, you can't say this, You cannot (fill in the blank) etc. You can't search for oil here or there. You get the picture I am sure.
Seal meat is consumed. Is it in every case? Probably not. But I do know from time spent in Alaska that this is fact.

I do not approve of the UN, Canuckia, or some lily white blue-blood from the northeast telling me what I should do in my state. Head out west and you will find this is a common belief.

Posted: February 22, 2006 3:51 pm
by live2ski

Posted: February 22, 2006 3:54 pm
by Moonie
live2ski wrote:
Moonie wrote:
live2ski wrote:
Moonie wrote:Having somewhat recently moved to south east Georgia, where there are a lot of manatees and dolphins. etc...

I wonder why some singer/songwriter doesn't start an effort to save them?

O wait..he has....
Wasn't that a local issue to him when he started it?

Have you ever been to Northern Ontario

no sure...I've not ever been sure of what his address is...always heard he had several different locations in several different states...

No, I've never been to No. Ontario..why do you ask?
It is a different world in Northern Ontario vs our comfortable existance here in the states. We are talking about an area where residents go to Toronto for a Warm vacation.
I've no doubt, this practice is still wrong...the HSUS work closely with a lot of animal rescus/rights organizations. They are the ones that exposed the deplorable treatment by the Chinese of cats and dogs..

It's not an issue that is going to just go away...some of the newly elected politicans in Canada support this ban...

Posted: February 22, 2006 3:57 pm
by Moonie
BTW...the HSUS...are not animal rights wackos....

Posted: February 22, 2006 3:57 pm
by Tiki Bar
Here's what I don't understand about topics such as these...

There are always opposing viewpoints, and whenever they are discussed until both "sides" are blue in the face, no one ever backs down on their position or changes their mind. So why bother?

Posted: February 22, 2006 4:00 pm
by live2ski
Moonie wrote:BTW...the HSUS...are not animal rights wackos....
In my opinion, they are one of the worst groups of animal rights wackos.

Posted: February 22, 2006 4:02 pm
by live2ski
Here is an article from the CBC

http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/sealhunt/

Posted: February 22, 2006 4:02 pm
by live2ski
rednekkPH wrote:
live2ski wrote:Being a resident of the Mountain West, nothing annoys me more than when someone from New York tells me what should happen in my neck of the woods.
Speaking of such things, in-line and percussion cap muzzleloaders are for girls. :lol:
But not as much so as Tree stands and feed plots.

Posted: February 22, 2006 4:03 pm
by Moonie
It's pretty close to having run it's course...Troy and I are exchanging some different aspects and ideas regarding the subject...

It's gone 4 pages...probably won't go too many past this...

the jello thread went 4...parent shoot coach has gone 9...

what IS the problem?

other than a couple of exceptions it's stayed civil..

you get off on locking threads you don't care anything about...

go for it!

Posted: February 22, 2006 4:04 pm
by Moonie
live2ski wrote:
rednekkPH wrote:
live2ski wrote:Being a resident of the Mountain West, nothing annoys me more than when someone from New York tells me what should happen in my neck of the woods.
Speaking of such things, in-line and percussion cap muzzleloaders are for girls. :lol:
But not as much so as Tree stands and feed plots.
Ah Ha! Tiki opposes your hijacking the thread...

Posted: February 22, 2006 4:04 pm
by rednekkPH
live2ski wrote:
rednekkPH wrote:
live2ski wrote:Being a resident of the Mountain West, nothing annoys me more than when someone from New York tells me what should happen in my neck of the woods.
Speaking of such things, in-line and percussion cap muzzleloaders are for girls. :lol:
But not as much so as Tree stands and feed plots.
I'll agree with ya on the feed plots.

Posted: February 22, 2006 4:05 pm
by live2ski
Moonie wrote:
live2ski wrote:
rednekkPH wrote:
live2ski wrote:Being a resident of the Mountain West, nothing annoys me more than when someone from New York tells me what should happen in my neck of the woods.
Speaking of such things, in-line and percussion cap muzzleloaders are for girls. :lol:
But not as much so as Tree stands and feed plots.
Ah Ha! Tiki opposes your hijacking the thread...
The Easterner did it first. :lol: :lol:

Posted: February 22, 2006 4:06 pm
by Moonie
live2ski wrote:
Moonie wrote:BTW...the HSUS...are not animal rights wackos....
In my opinion, they are one of the worst groups of animal rights wackos.

and that...we do not agree

Posted: February 22, 2006 4:08 pm
by Moonie
live2ski wrote:
Moonie wrote:
live2ski wrote:
rednekkPH wrote:
live2ski wrote:Being a resident of the Mountain West, nothing annoys me more than when someone from New York tells me what should happen in my neck of the woods.
Speaking of such things, in-line and percussion cap muzzleloaders are for girls. :lol:
But not as much so as Tree stands and feed plots.
Ah Ha! Tiki opposes your hijacking the thread...
The Easterner did it first. :lol: :lol:

make that NORTH...Eastener...different animal.. ya know..

Posted: February 22, 2006 4:08 pm
by live2ski
Moonie wrote:
live2ski wrote:
Moonie wrote:BTW...the HSUS...are not animal rights wackos....
In my opinion, they are one of the worst groups of animal rights wackos.

and that...we do not agree
The HSUS is very anti-hunting. Which is why I hold my beliefs about them.

Posted: February 22, 2006 4:09 pm
by phjrsaunt
Tiki Bar wrote:Here's what I don't understand about topics such as these...

There are always opposing viewpoints, and whenever they are discussed until both "sides" are blue in the face, no one ever backs down on their position or changes their mind. So why bother?
I guess they think they look good in blue. :roll:

Posted: February 22, 2006 4:09 pm
by Moonie
My favorite color..TYVM

Posted: February 22, 2006 4:11 pm
by rednekkPH
Moonie wrote:
live2ski wrote:
Moonie wrote:
live2ski wrote:
rednekkPH wrote:
live2ski wrote:Being a resident of the Mountain West, nothing annoys me more than when someone from New York tells me what should happen in my neck of the woods.
Speaking of such things, in-line and percussion cap muzzleloaders are for girls. :lol:
But not as much so as Tree stands and feed plots.
Ah Ha! Tiki opposes your hijacking the thread...
The Easterner did it first. :lol: :lol:

make that NORTH...Eastener...different animal.. ya know..
We're not that different...take away our full sets of teeth, and we're just like you guys down there.

Posted: February 22, 2006 4:12 pm
by live2ski
phjrsaunt wrote:
Tiki Bar wrote:Here's what I don't understand about topics such as these...

There are always opposing viewpoints, and whenever they are discussed until both "sides" are blue in the face, no one ever backs down on their position or changes their mind. So why bother?
I guess they think they look good in blue. :roll:
I look good in almost any color. :lol: :lol: