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rednekkPH wrote:

Moonie wrote:All woodpeckers are protected under the Migratory Bird Treaty Act of 1918 as migratory insectivorous birds and are classified as non-game by the state. Two California woodpeckers (Gila woodpecker, Melanerpes uropygialis, and Gilded northern flicker, Colaptes auratus chrysoides) are California-listed endangered species and are offered greater protection. When warranted, woodpeckers other than endangered species can be killed, but only under a permit issued by the Law Enforcement Division of the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service upon recommendation of the United States Department of Agriculture, Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service (USDA-APHIS) Wildlife Services personnel. Generally there must be a good case to justify a permit and the permit process is time consuming. Control methods that do not harm the bird or its active nest are allowed except for the two endangered species. Those species cannot be harassed or bothered in any way. Physical exclusion, if installed before the endangered species is in the area, is allowed. For more information on these and other endangered species, see the California Department of Fish and Game Web site, or contact the main office of USDA-APHIS Wildlife Services in your state.

Readers' Digest version: Shoot them. Don't get caught.

Got it.

rednekkPH wrote:

Moonie wrote:All woodpeckers are protected under the Migratory Bird Treaty Act of 1918 as migratory insectivorous birds and are classified as non-game by the state. Two California woodpeckers (Gila woodpecker, Melanerpes uropygialis, and Gilded northern flicker, Colaptes auratus chrysoides) are California-listed endangered species and are offered greater protection. When warranted, woodpeckers other than endangered species can be killed, but only under a permit issued by the Law Enforcement Division of the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service upon recommendation of the United States Department of Agriculture, Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service (USDA-APHIS) Wildlife Services personnel. Generally there must be a good case to justify a permit and the permit process is time consuming. Control methods that do not harm the bird or its active nest are allowed except for the two endangered species. Those species cannot be harassed or bothered in any way. Physical exclusion, if installed before the endangered species is in the area, is allowed. For more information on these and other endangered species, see the California Department of Fish and Game Web site, or contact the main office of USDA-APHIS Wildlife Services in your state.

Readers' Digest version: Shoot them. Don't get caught.

Oh really? then...we can teach our children that we only have to obey the laws that we agree with...the others you can break...just don't get caught?

Moonie wrote:

rednekkPH wrote:

Moonie wrote:All woodpeckers are protected under the Migratory Bird Treaty Act of 1918 as migratory insectivorous birds and are classified as non-game by the state. Two California woodpeckers (Gila woodpecker, Melanerpes uropygialis, and Gilded northern flicker, Colaptes auratus chrysoides) are California-listed endangered species and are offered greater protection. When warranted, woodpeckers other than endangered species can be killed, but only under a permit issued by the Law Enforcement Division of the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service upon recommendation of the United States Department of Agriculture, Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service (USDA-APHIS) Wildlife Services personnel. Generally there must be a good case to justify a permit and the permit process is time consuming. Control methods that do not harm the bird or its active nest are allowed except for the two endangered species. Those species cannot be harassed or bothered in any way. Physical exclusion, if installed before the endangered species is in the area, is allowed. For more information on these and other endangered species, see the California Department of Fish and Game Web site, or contact the main office of USDA-APHIS Wildlife Services in your state.

Readers' Digest version: Shoot them. Don't get caught.

Oh really? then...we can teach our children that we only have to obey the laws that we agree with...the others you can break...just don't get caught?

It's real simple: Woodpecker damages my home, woodpecker gets shot. And don't kid yourself, we all choose which laws we follow, and which we break. Ever drive above the posted speed limit? Ever ingest a substance that wasn't legal? Ever cross the street when the sign says "Dont Walk"?

Moonie wrote:sooo...everything is legal unless you get caught?


it's difficult to raise children in that atmosphere/surrounding...akin to trying to explain a tiny white lie to an 8/9 year old....and no expect him/her to use it on you in the future...

it can turn around and bite you in the ass....some day....

have you ever raised your own children?

i'd like to say i always set the best example, but i know i don't.

my home is important to me, and it IS more important (especially after a multi-thousand-dollar renovation due to poor maintenance by the previous owner) for my home to remain in good condition to avoid costly repairs.

as sad as it makes me, the 'lil guy is goin' down if none of the "safe and cheap" methods work.

buffettbear wrote:...hang strips of foil, fabric or commercially available bird netting from the eaves to deter the birds. Other scare tactics include placing hawk or owl cutouts on the house, hanging balloons in the area, a child's pinwheel, flash tape, strings of shiny, noisy tin can lids, wind chimes and/or pulsating water sprinklers.

I recommend you do all of these at the same time... and see what the neighbors think!

buffettbride wrote:

Moonie wrote:sooo...everything is legal unless you get caught?


it's difficult to raise children in that atmosphere/surrounding...akin to trying to explain a tiny white lie to an 8/9 year old....and no expect him/her to use it on you in the future...

it can turn around and bite you in the ass....some day....

have you ever raised your own children?

i'd like to say i always set the best example, but i know i don't.

my home is important to me, and it IS more important (especially after a multi-thousand-dollar renovation due to poor maintenance by the previous owner) for my home to remain in good condition to avoid costly repairs.

as sad as it makes me, the 'lil guy is goin' down if none of the "safe and cheap" methods work.

Dont' be sad. In fact, have the little bastard stuffed and nail him to the side of your house as a warning to others.

Tiki Bar wrote:

buffettbear wrote:...hang strips of foil, fabric or commercially available bird netting from the eaves to deter the birds. Other scare tactics include placing hawk or owl cutouts on the house, hanging balloons in the area, a child's pinwheel, flash tape, strings of shiny, noisy tin can lids, wind chimes and/or pulsating water sprinklers.

I recommend you do all of these at the same time... and see what the neighbors think!

prolly no different than they already do!!

rednekkPH wrote:

buffettbride wrote:

Moonie wrote:sooo...everything is legal unless you get caught?


it's difficult to raise children in that atmosphere/surrounding...akin to trying to explain a tiny white lie to an 8/9 year old....and no expect him/her to use it on you in the future...

it can turn around and bite you in the ass....some day....

have you ever raised your own children?

i'd like to say i always set the best example, but i know i don't.

my home is important to me, and it IS more important (especially after a multi-thousand-dollar renovation due to poor maintenance by the previous owner) for my home to remain in good condition to avoid costly repairs.

as sad as it makes me, the 'lil guy is goin' down if none of the "safe and cheap" methods work.

Dont' be sad. In fact, have the little bastard stuffed and nail him to the side of your house as a warning to others.

It does make me kinda sad. I don't want the little guy to die (especially since I made such a fuss over a mouse a few months ago and drove over a mile to release it back into the wild )

But, I've just endured some very costly repairs that resulted from poor home maintenance, and I'll be damned if I'm gonna do it again.

Besides, hubby'd actually be the one doin' the deed.

awwww, why ya want to go and hurt Woody? The bird is doing what is natrual for him/her. They are going after the bugs in the siding. Spray a little bug spray on the place he like to flex his pecker and it will probably send it on its way.

well this one is putting a hole in the side of my house and i most definitely am not attracting it on purpose.

i guess ideally, the guy behind us who owns the tree where said pecker lives, would be cut down. it's dying anyway and litters our lawn with all sorts of sticks.

like i said, suz, i don't want this thing to die (which is why i started this thread), but my house is more important to me.

rednekkPH wrote:

buffettbride wrote:

Moonie wrote:sooo...everything is legal unless you get caught?


it's difficult to raise children in that atmosphere/surrounding...akin to trying to explain a tiny white lie to an 8/9 year old....and no expect him/her to use it on you in the future...

it can turn around and bite you in the ass....some day....

have you ever raised your own children?

i'd like to say i always set the best example, but i know i don't.

my home is important to me, and it IS more important (especially after a multi-thousand-dollar renovation due to poor maintenance by the previous owner) for my home to remain in good condition to avoid costly repairs.

as sad as it makes me, the 'lil guy is goin' down if none of the "safe and cheap" methods work.

Dont' be sad. In fact, have the little bastard stuffed and nail him to the side of your house as a warning to others.

I am nominating this post as an early contender for post of the year. I actually spewed this time

Moonie wrote:Mallory.....I didn't mean that you don't set as good as example as you can... I have no doubt about that..

your children are young...and...you'll be surprized at some of the things they come back at you with...on down the road when it's to their benefit...

and in all reality...that woodpecker is after some type of bug, insect..he can hear...they don't hammer on trees just because they like the sound..same with your house...

I've had carpenter ants and wood bees do much more damage to my home than any woodpecker has ever done...and the trim on my house was all cedar...

Are you saying that Mal's house is infected with some hideous STB?

ToplessRideFL wrote:Where is how to get rid of the cat thread...... maybe you can use some of the ideas

Of course the cat is STILL around......

That's because you did not use the correct amount of anti-freeze

live2ski wrote:

Moonie wrote:Mallory.....I didn't mean that you don't set as good as example as you can... I have no doubt about that..

your children are young...and...you'll be surprized at some of the things they come back at you with...on down the road when it's to their benefit...

and in all reality...that woodpecker is after some type of bug, insect..he can hear...they don't hammer on trees just because they like the sound..same with your house...

I've had carpenter ants and wood bees do much more damage to my home than any woodpecker has ever done...and the trim on my house was all cedar...

Are you saying that Mal's house is infected with some hideous STB?

OMG. Now I am spewing.

It's almost mating season, I'm assuming the pecker is trying to find a lady-bird to spend some time with in my attic.

dawgfan wrote:

ToplessRideFL wrote:Where is how to get rid of the cat thread...... maybe you can use some of the ideas

Of course the cat is STILL around......

That's because you did not use the correct amount of anti-freeze

http://www.ag.ohio-state.edu/~twig/anim ... 90896.html

Long tongues. Hmmmm.