why a parrothead has a right to be upset

12 lb. nestle crunch · Post by **12 lb. nestle crunch** » March 17, 2006 1:40 pm

IM NOT SAYING THAT I AM UPSET, just that YOU have the right to be. here goes:

there are obviously a lot of upset parrotheads these days. here on BN, a few have decided to vent their frustration over various issues. in response another crowd of p'heads has come out with responses such as "deal with it," "dont go if you dont like it," and so on.

here is why YOU have the right to be upset. we are the ones to pay jimmy's salary. we pay for his yachts, homes, cars, airplanes, and all those trips around the world. now jimmy has said over and over again that he wouldnt be anywheres without the fans, and all he does is meet supply and demand, blah blah blah.

choosing to spend money on a concert ticket (and the trip as a whole) is just like any other business transaction. if someone in your family owns a car dealership, then yes, you would naturally want to give them your business. but if you can get the same car for $3,000 less, your going to go somewheres else. "business is business"

ive read a lot about people on here choosing to take beach vacations instead of buffett shows. they know they can get an equally enjoying experience either way, but one is cheaper (and longer). again, business is business, jimmy.

no matter what buffett does, there will alway be a group of people who will defend him...even if he commits murder. i call these "brainwashed" buffett fans. so if you're upset over ticket prices or anything else, you have the right to be. and if jimmy wants to keep making 44 million a year, he should listen to the people who basically throw money at him every year.

buffettbride · Post by **buffettbride** » March 17, 2006 1:42 pm

i'm not upset. i'm poor.

Jahfin · Post by **Jahfin** » March 17, 2006 1:51 pm

12 lb. nestle crunch wrote:there are obviously a lot of upset parrotheads these days. here on BN, a few have decided to vent their frustration over various issues. in response another crowd of p'heads has come out with responses such as "deal with it," "dont go if you dont like it," and so on.

Or, my favorite: "that just means more tix for the rest of us"

12 lb. nestle crunch wrote:no matter what buffett does, there will alway be a group of people who will defend him...even if he commits murder. i call these "brainwashed" buffett fans.

Brainwashed is an apt description but I really like the one I read the other day that referred to them as "beak freaks". That there's a good 'un.

CaptainP · Post by **CaptainP** » March 17, 2006 1:53 pm

Everyone has the right to be upset.

Just make sure you are RIGHT before excercising that right by posting it for the public.

ToplessRideFL · Post by **ToplessRideFL** » March 17, 2006 1:55 pm

What??? Where is Jimmy building a car dealership????? Cause I will have to run right over there and buy a car from him since he will give me the best deal....... (paaaallllleeze)

Seriously.... I for one... am not defending him against murder. I am defending his right to charge any dadgum amount he chooses for his merchandise, movies, books, recordings and live shows. Just as I am sure he would do for me!

MikeInNOLA · Post by **MikeInNOLA** » March 17, 2006 1:57 pm

12 lb. nestle crunch wrote:no matter what buffett does, there will alway be a group of people who will defend him...even if he commits murder. i call these "brainwashed" buffett fans.

Ahhh...in another part of the cyberworld, those are referred to as BIG's (Buffett is God).

CaptainP · Post by **CaptainP** » March 17, 2006 1:58 pm

12 lb. nestle crunch wrote:
here is why YOU have the right to be upset. we are the ones to pay jimmy's salary. we pay for his yachts, homes, cars, airplanes, and all those trips around the world. now jimmy has said over and over again that he wouldnt be anywheres without the fans, and all he does is meet supply and demand, blah blah blah.

But remember, HE is the one doing all the work. Not us. That's why he gets paid. To entertain us.

12 lb. nestle crunch wrote: choosing to spend money on a concert ticket (and the trip as a whole) is just like any other business transaction. if someone in your family owns a car dealership, then yes, you would naturally want to give them your business. but if you can get the same car for $3,000 less, your going to go somewheres else. "business is business"

Anyone has the right to take their business anywhere else. Nobody is MAKING you pay for tickets.

12 lb. nestle crunch wrote: no matter what buffett does, there will alway be a group of people who will defend him...even if he commits murder. i call these "brainwashed" buffett fans.

Really? I've been brainwashed? That explains a lot.
Murder? No.
But this is the USA. He is a Capitalist. Yes, some phans wish to believe he is above "Making Music For Money", but the simple fact is, this is how the world works. Sorry pholks.

12 lb. nestle crunch wrote: so if you're upset over ticket prices or anything else, you have the right to be.

Yes you do. Another part of America that I love. The Right to be upset.
Just be ready when others don't agree with your point of view.

12 lb. nestle crunch wrote: and if jimmy wants to keep making 44 million a year, he should listen to the people who basically throw money at him every year.

He should? Convince me why.

Cubbie Bear · Post by **Cubbie Bear** » March 17, 2006 1:58 pm

Nobody forced me to jumb on this train in the 1970's and if and when I decide (not going to happen) to jump off, is also my choice. I do at this time chose to not pay over 100 per ticket, but I wouldn't pay that to see ANYBODY.

Am I disappointed, sure. Hey I'm more p*** that gas was 2.49 a gallon this morning cuase some freakin' sheik farted in Saudi Arabia

CaptainP · Post by **CaptainP** » March 17, 2006 2:00 pm

Cubbie Bear wrote:Hey I'm more p*** that gas was 2.49 a gallon this morning cuase some freakin' sheik farted in Saudi Arabia

Is that their excuse today? I thought it was because somebody stubbed their toe.

Piratical · Post by **Piratical** » March 17, 2006 2:00 pm

12 lb. nestle crunch wrote:no matter what buffett does, there will alway be a group of people who will defend him...even if he commits murder. i call these "brainwashed" buffett fans.

I think they call that Stage 6

6. Buffett is God
Starts collecting the albums, buys a couple more Hawaiian shirts, maybe even a coconut bra. Has two concert tees, and a subscription to the Coconut Telegraph. Suddenly has a burning need to find out all that is Buffett. Considers Buffett to be GOD, 'though they've never heard the song "God's Own Drunk". Actually believes Buffett is a beach bum. NOTE: Some people never get passed this stage...

CaptainP · Post by **CaptainP** » March 17, 2006 2:01 pm

Sorry about my long post up there, but I live in the real world....

12 lb. nestle crunch · Post by **12 lb. nestle crunch** » March 17, 2006 2:03 pm

hey CaptainP, during your quote party, you forgot to read the VERY FIRST SENTENCE of my post

YOU live in the real world? what are you trying to say?

CaptainP · Post by **CaptainP** » March 17, 2006 2:06 pm

12 lb. nestle crunch wrote:hey CaptainP, during your quote party, you forgot to read the VERY FIRST SENTENCE of my post

No, I read it.

My responses, like your original post, were put out as a generalization. I was taking a contrary point of view in order to further the discussion.

I never meant to imply any of these things referred to you personally, only to those who are jumping off of bridges over ticket prices. If I implied anything else, I apologize, but remember, you were the one to put it out there. People will interpret this as your opinion, whether it is or not.

Cubbie Bear · Post by **Cubbie Bear** » March 17, 2006 2:06 pm

POPCORN......STAT

rednekkPH · Post by **rednekkPH** » March 17, 2006 2:07 pm

Uh-oh...somebody must have left the sheep pen open again.

12 lb. nestle crunch · Post by **12 lb. nestle crunch** » March 17, 2006 2:08 pm

CaptainP wrote: People will interpret this as your opinion, whether it is or not.

it is my opinion. i am not upset over ticket prices or whatever. i am just defending other peoples right to be upset

CaptainP · Post by **CaptainP** » March 17, 2006 2:09 pm

12 lb. nestle crunch wrote:
YOU live in the real world? what are you trying to say?

I'm saying that I understand how Capitalism works, and that Capitalism is the basis for our current society.

There are those who have a perception of the World that their heroes (in this case, Jimmy) always do what is popular and help the little guy. Usually not the case.

For me, it's about the music that I love. If I have to pay more, I choose to. If I ever think the prices are more than I can afford, I won't go. But I won't ever say he doesn't have the right to charge a certain price, nor will I imply that he is wrong to do so.

I love a good debate!

Soraya · Post by **Soraya** » March 17, 2006 2:10 pm

12 lb. nestle crunch wrote:IM NOT SAYING THAT I AM UPSET, just that YOU have the right to be. here goes:

Why another thread? Aren't there enough already?

Yes, everyone has a right to be upset at the ticket price if they choose. I don't recall it ever being said that that one couldn't. However, everyone that wished to attend have as much right not to be raked over the coals for our choice as well. We also have the right to wish people would go whine in one place.

You (general you) don't want to pay to go see him....don't go. Easy as that. Doesn't effect me and the right to my choice.

PS: I wouldn't defend anyone convicted of cold-blooded murder. Nice ad hominem on those that don't share your view though.

CaptainP · Post by **CaptainP** » March 17, 2006 2:11 pm

Cubbie Bear wrote:POPCORN......STAT

Sorry, Cubbie....I have to leave for work....the show will have to wait for another day.

12 lb. nestle crunch · Post by **12 lb. nestle crunch** » March 17, 2006 2:14 pm

CaptainP wrote:
12 lb. nestle crunch wrote:
YOU live in the real world? what are you trying to say?
I'm saying that I understand how Capitalism works, and that Capitalism is the basis for our current society.

There are those who have a perception of the World that their heroes (in this case, Jimmy) always do what is popular and help the little guy. Usually not the case.

For me, it's about the music that I love. If I have to pay more, I choose to. If I ever think the prices are more than I can afford, I won't go. But I won't ever say he doesn't have the right to charge a certain price, nor will I imply that he is wrong to do so.

I love a good debate!

maybe you understand capitalism, maybe you dont. but jimmy is an entrepreneur. and as a fellow entrepreneur, i can say that you dont understand anything about reaching and satisfying the target market...something jimmy is slacking on. dont accuse me of living in Oz, buddy

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