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Posted: March 27, 2006 3:35 pm
by SharkOnLand
Desdamona wrote:
Coconuts wrote:Or, option 4- the wife went off her meds and snapped. It could be something horrible under the surface, but that doesn't necessarily mean under the surface of the pastor.
It looks like this may be a very possible option.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,189200,00.html

E-mail No. 3 — This is an interesting e-mail. I can't vouch for the content
since I have not corroborated the assertions, but include it for you to
review:

Greta,
To get some insight into Mary Winkler's motive you might want to check
into her medical background. I think that you will find among other things
she suffers from Lupus. I also think that you will find she has been treated
for either a bipolar disorder or manic depression.
In the last two or three years she had a miscarriage. She lost her mother
in the last two years. She gave birth to a child in the last 13 months. Her
husband went from being a youth minister's husband to being the wife of a
full-time congregational minister.
She moved to a new location. All of these
things are extremely stressful.
I would also check into when she and her husband were in Nashville, and
he was a youth minister there. I would check to see if there were any
incidents of outbreaks of anger on her part, and if there was a medical
reason for this.
It is my belief that there are good medical reasons for her actions. I also
believe that her motive was based on perceptions that were not based in
reality. I would want to know if she was taking medication prescribed for
her.
I do not know Mary, but I know her husband's family, and I knew Matt. I
know many people who knew Mary and Matt well, and worked with them
over the last five years. Matt and his family are the best of people.


And as I said initially, at least she didn't see the need to drown the children.

(And yes, Lar, somewhere there is always a man to blame! :P )
If my husband went from being a man's husband to somebody elses' wife, I'd snap too.

Posted: March 28, 2006 8:24 pm
by a1aara
Only in OHIO...........




SNAP 'Disappointed' At Changes Made To Sex Abuse Bill
House Drops Plan To Allow Victims To Sue Over Decades-Old Abuse

POSTED: 12:55 pm EST March 28, 2006
UPDATED: 1:22 pm EST March 28, 2006



COLUMBUS, Ohio -- Lawmakers are dropping a proposal to allow lawsuits by victims of clergy sexual abuse that happened up to 35 years ago, the Ohio House leader said Tuesday.

Victims of child sex abuse said they were disappointed Tuesday after a house committee changed Senate Bill 17 -- designed to protect children, NBC 4's Lauren Crowner reported.

The bill was approved by the Senate and would allow people abused by priests to have up to 20 years to report the abuse after it happened. But, the House Judiciary Committee changed the time limit to 12 years.

Victims said they were also looking for a provision which would have allowed a one-year window for victims who missed the lawsuit deadline to sue for alleged abuse.


Speaker Jon Husted said leaders have been unable to reach a compromise that suits church officials and the outspoken victims' support network SNAP, whose members descended on the Statehouse the past two days bearing laminated photos of themselves at the ages they were abused.

Now, members of the Survivors Network of those Abused by Priests said they were outraged, and the new bill does not protect children.

"It's devastating because of how kids were sold out today," said Claudia Vercellotti, SNAP Toledo leader.

"They didn't amend the bill. They gutted the bill. They took out the provisions that would protect children," said Barbara Blaine, SNAP president. "It's a feel good bill. It's a half-baked, untested, last-minute scheme they put together."

SNAP members said they plan on lobbying Wednesday when the bill moves to the house floor, in an effort to return the bill to the original draft.

Watch NBC 4 and refresh nbc4i.com for additional information.