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More Bad News for the Bush Bunker . . .
Posted: April 24, 2006 2:01 pm
by flyboy55
Ex-CIA official: WMD evidence ignored
'60 Minutes' report: White House disregarded good intelligence
Sunday, April 23, 2006; Posted: 10:04 p.m. EDT (02:04 GMT)
(CNN) -- A retired CIA official has accused the Bush administration of ignoring intelligence indicating that Iraq had no weapons of mass destruction and no active nuclear program before the United States-led coalition invaded it, CBS News said Sunday.
Tyler Drumheller, the former highest-ranking CIA officer in Europe, told "60 Minutes" that the administration "chose to ignore" good intelligence, the network said in a posting on its Web site.
Drumheller said that, before the U.S.-led attack on Iraq in 2003, the White House "ignored crucial information" from Iraq's foreign minister, Naji Sabri, that indicated Iraq had no weapons of mass destruction.
"[The source] told us that there were no active weapons of mass destruction programs," Drumheller is quoted as saying. "The [White House] group that was dealing with preparation for the Iraq war came back and said they were no longer interested. And we said 'Well, what about the intel?' And they said 'Well, this isn't about intel anymore. This is about regime change.' "
Drumheller said the administration officials wanted no more information from Sabri because: "The policy was set. The war in Iraq was coming, and they were looking for intelligence to fit into the policy." . . .
"It just sticks in my craw every time I hear them say it's an intelligence failure," Drumheller told CBS' Ed Bradley. "This was a policy failure. I think, over time, people will look back on this and see this is going to be one of the great, I think, policy mistakes of all time." . . .
Another retired CIA official in February said the Bush administration disregarded the expertise of the intelligence community, politicized the intelligence process and used unrepresentative data in making the case for war.
In an article published in the journal Foreign Affairs, Paul R. Pillar, the CIA's national intelligence officer for the Near East and South Asia from 2000 to 2005, called the relationship between U.S. intelligence and policymaking "broken." (Full story)
In November 2005, CNN obtained a 2003 CIA report that raised doubts about a claim that al Qaeda sent operatives to Iraq to acquire chemical and biological weapons -- assertions that were repeated later by then-Secretary of State Colin Powell to the United Nations in making the case for the invasion of Iraq. (Full story)
A day after that report surfaced, Bush gave a speech on Veteran's Day in which he accused critics of the Iraq war of distorting the events that led to the U.S. invasion.
Bush said that "intelligence agencies from around the world agreed with our assessment of Saddam Hussein" and that a Senate Intelligence Committee report issued in July 2004 "found no evidence of political pressure to change the intelligence community's judgments."
http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/04/23/cia.iraq/
This BIG LIE is costing thousands of American and Iraqi lives, more with each passing day.
If I told lies this big that ended up costing thousands of lives, you would all be seriously considering the death penalty for me.
Cheers.
**edited for typos**
Posted: April 24, 2006 2:04 pm
by Lightning Bolt
hey, at least he didn't get a ***waha-waha*** in the Oval Office.
That's the guy who shoulda lost his job...
Posted: April 24, 2006 3:41 pm
by Desdamona
Lightning Bolt wrote:hey, at least he didn't get a ***waha-waha*** in the Oval Office.
That's the guy who shoulda lost his job...
Hhmmm...
Consentual adulterous sex with a subordinate at work vs.
sending troops to war under false pretenses... yeah, right, what-ever
Posted: April 24, 2006 3:45 pm
by CaptainP
Oh Goody. More Politics.
Posted: April 24, 2006 3:45 pm
by RAGTOP
Desdamona wrote:Lightning Bolt wrote:hey, at least he didn't get a ***waha-waha*** in the Oval Office.
That's the guy who shoulda lost his job...
Hhmmm...
Consentual adulterous sex with a subordinate at work vs.
sending troops to war under false pretenses... yeah, right, what-ever
Clinton looked everyone of us in the face and lied. One would be foolish to think that was the only thing he lied about in office. With that said I voted for Clinton and I thought he did a great job while in office (not perfect).
Posted: April 24, 2006 3:50 pm
by rednekkPH
RAGTOP wrote:Clinton looked everyone of us in the face and lied.
Would you admit in public to screwing around with something that ugly?
Posted: April 24, 2006 3:53 pm
by SMLCHNG
CaptainP wrote:Oh Goody. More Politics.
Yeah. More blah, blah, blah..
Posted: April 24, 2006 3:56 pm
by Desdamona
RAGTOP wrote:Desdamona wrote:Lightning Bolt wrote:hey, at least he didn't get a ***waha-waha*** in the Oval Office.
That's the guy who shoulda lost his job...
Hhmmm...
Consentual adulterous sex with a subordinate at work vs.
sending troops to war under false pretenses... yeah, right, what-ever
Clinton looked everyone of us in the face and lied. One would be foolish to think that was the only thing he lied about in office. With that said I voted for Clinton and I thought he did a great job while in office (not perfect).
I doubt there's a single president that hasn't lied in office.
I was quite disillusioned when Jimmy Carter admitted to
lying about the "rescue mission in the desert" and the lie
wasn't really of any consequence. I just liked to think of
him as an unusually honest man.
What's that I heard once about the difference in Democrats
and Republicans? They're all crooks... the Republicans are
just better at hiding it? I figure it's just that they're more
determined to point out their esteemed opponents' minor
bad deeds than the Dems are.
(What the HECK am I doing in a political discussion?!?)
Posted: April 24, 2006 4:00 pm
by RAGTOP
rednekkPH wrote:RAGTOP wrote:Clinton looked everyone of us in the face and lied.
Would you admit in public to screwing around with something that ugly?
true but she wasn't bad for slick Willy... on second that he was the leader of the free world he really should have done better than that
Posted: April 24, 2006 4:02 pm
by CaptainP
RAGTOP wrote:
Clinton looked everyone of us in the face and lied.
Whereas no other politician has ever done THAT before?
Posted: April 24, 2006 4:03 pm
by RAGTOP
CaptainP wrote:RAGTOP wrote:
Clinton looked everyone of us in the face and lied.
Whereas no other politician has ever done THAT before?
didn't your mother ever tell you 2 wrongs don't make a right
Posted: April 24, 2006 4:04 pm
by rednekkPH
RAGTOP wrote:CaptainP wrote:RAGTOP wrote:
Clinton looked everyone of us in the face and lied.
Whereas no other politician has ever done THAT before?
didn't your mother ever tell you 2 wrongs don't make a right
True. but 3 rights make a left.
Posted: April 24, 2006 4:15 pm
by LIPH
rednekkPH wrote:RAGTOP wrote:Clinton looked everyone of us in the face and lied.
Would you admit in public to screwing around with something that ugly?
Have you seen what he married? The man is beyond shame when it comes to his taste in women.
Posted: April 24, 2006 4:17 pm
by CaptainP
LIPH wrote:rednekkPH wrote:RAGTOP wrote:Clinton looked everyone of us in the face and lied.
Would you admit in public to screwing around with something that ugly?
Have you seen what he married? The man is beyond shame when it comes to his taste in women.
Just curious....has Hiliary Clinton blinked yet this year?
She's like an android. It's really disturbing....she never blinks! My eyes water in sympathy when I watch her...
Posted: April 24, 2006 4:18 pm
by LIPH
My eyes blink in sympathy for Bill, knowing that he actually got horizontal with her.
Posted: April 24, 2006 4:19 pm
by CaptainP
LIPH wrote:My eyes blink in sympathy for Bill, knowing that he actually got horizontal with her.
Sad to think, for him, Monica was a step UP!!!!
Posted: April 24, 2006 4:22 pm
by LIPH
Remember Paula Jones? I saw her on the Today Show, I wouldn't do her with Bill's willie and 3 guys pushing from behind.
Posted: April 24, 2006 4:26 pm
by tikitatas
Am I missing something about politics that somehow, in America, the leader's deeds/misdeeds are related to whom he is "doing", as you all so nicely imply?
Posted: April 24, 2006 4:28 pm
by LIPH
Paula Jones? Monica Lewinsky? I'd have to have a grudge against my unit to even think about it.
Posted: April 24, 2006 4:29 pm
by CaptainP
LIPH wrote:Remember Paula Jones? I saw her on the Today Show, I wouldn't do her with Bill's willie and 3 guys pushing from behind.
I wouldn't do her with a stolen d***!