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Posted: July 29, 2006 11:02 am
by bumper
I live near Los Angeles, acts of violence are a daily occurrence but its human on human.
Yes, violence was involved
would it have been more violent if the perp threw down dog food and ran over 30 puppies? Yes IMO there is a difference between seagulls and puppies.
Not sure if you are reacting to the act itself or the manner in which the act was accomplished. A show of blood usually rocks people back on their heels, even more so coupled with it's public display..
As far as having them as a neighbor,,,,,one street over and a couple houses down we have a convicted child molester living amongst us, sex with a child under the age of 14 and we live in a nice neighborhood.
No Dahmer did not start the way he ended. But I fail to see a connection bewteen the two especially if you attempting to draw a paralell between acts predicting who becomes a cannibal and who does not.
and barely, three weeks of triple digit temps coupled with unusually high humidity has set So. Cal. on its haunches.

Posted: July 29, 2006 11:12 am
by Moonie
I don't know the ages of these particular perps...
and no it's not just the image of the carnage..it's much deeper than that...
there are sexual predators and convicted child molesters, everywhere...friggin..EVERYWHERE..are we becoming accoustomed to living near them? imagine that...
killing puppies vs seagulls?...personally, I don't see much difference...but that's just me...
I've seen almost as worse suggested to do to cats, here at BN..
go figure..
I'm sorry about the heat out there...people are dying because of it...is it only going to become worse, as they've predicted? Let's hope not...
we're starting to have a normal summer here, up until now, it's actually not been too terribly bad....
Stay Cool out there Bumper....(like you'd be anything by cool, huh?)
Posted: July 29, 2006 11:51 am
by bumper
seagulls vs puppies...we've had this discussion, by social defintion and meaning coupled with human interaction puppies have a place on our social ladder, Seagulls as well, save Utah, just much lower on the ladder.
That is the problem, we've become desensitized to some of the more horrific crimes against people and to the perps living amongst us in our neighborhoods. I socially sanction the guy everytime I see him, far as I am concerned he is evil, a menace and his ilk have high receidivism rates and treatment shows no promise.
There is a difference between threatening on an I net chatboard to do something vs actually doing it.....the real test of course is in a crowd of BN'ers those who so bravely would harm a cat, stand and say so. I doubt they have the sak for it.
Seems this year nationwide weather patterns have changed. Though I know you are intimating global warming as the culprit I refuse to take the bait

Fortunately I work outdoors near the beach where the temps can be 30 degrees less then 15 miles inland. Wifeo though is right in the middle of 110 degree weather, she looks like she has been drug through a knot hole when she gets home.
Posted: July 29, 2006 12:09 pm
by Moonie
we have seriously become desensistized to a lot of things...in OK..we only had seagulls in the Winter, and I know they can be a nuisance...more so to others than to me...(I prefer flora and fauna to most people, but again, that's just me...LOL)
but global warming? see ..you wrongly accuse me..you are assuming..but yes, I do think we have global warming to a certain degree..it's almost certain..
but I do not think that global warming is the culprit here...right now....weather patterns are always changing, some quite abruptly, other not so apparent...they are creeping..kinda like creeper canni...no...never mind...I do believe the weather pattern is behaving like it has for eons..we're just more informed of every detail now...
EXCEPT....for those days we get perfect (imperfect) conditions and they warn the young and old, people with respiratory problems to stay inside, those conditions are definately caused by dastardly emissions of some nature...this time of year in OK..there were frequent Ozone alerts ....
the breeze off the Atlantic is very cooling, we're too far from it to actually benefit, lots of uninhabited land around us though, let's us feel any breeze that's offered...and then there's the river, too...
school is starting Aug. 8...I'll feel your wife's misery, also...(I work in the cafeteria)