New Terrorism incident awareness tool

[a1aara]

Subject: New Terrorism incident awareness tool

http://www.globalincidentmap.com/home.php

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has released their unclassified Global Incident Map. My words to explain
this new system will do little to convey how really cool this product
is. I strongly urge all security folks to click on the link and take
some time exploring this awesome tool. Bookmark the site in your
favorites. This provides you a view of the world and what we face as
security professionals. Any questions or comments on this program please
email me and I will forward them on. This is exciting !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Mac

[TropicalTroubador]

I'm sorry, but "person goes into strip club, kills two people and then himself" should *not* be automatically classified as "possible terrorism." I question how much stuff has been shoveled into the "possible terrorism" category in order to justify this site's existence.

Not only that, but the news is depressing enough without something like this.

Me, I'll stick to the Duval St. Webcam and a couple of boat drinks.

Loren

[thebeachbumm33]

I'm sorry, but "person goes into strip club, kills two people and then himself" should *not* be automatically classified as "possible terrorism." I question how much stuff has been shoveled into the "possible terrorism" category in order to justify this site's existence.

Not only that, but the news is depressing enough without something like this.

Me, I'll stick to the Duval St. Webcam and a couple of boat drinks.

Loren

Thank you for putting what I was thinking into words

[a1aara]

I'm sorry, but "person goes into strip club, kills two people and then himself" should *not* be automatically classified as "possible terrorism." I question how much stuff has been shoveled into the "possible terrorism" category in order to justify this site's existence.

Not only that, but the news is depressing enough without something like this.

Me, I'll stick to the Duval St. Webcam and a couple of boat drinks.

Loren

Maybe it's the way he commited his crime. Bullett proof vests and assault rifles? Terrorist threats are widely defined these days.

[RinglingRingling]

I'm sorry, but "person goes into strip club, kills two people and then himself" should *not* be automatically classified as "possible terrorism." I question how much stuff has been shoveled into the "possible terrorism" category in order to justify this site's existence.

Not only that, but the news is depressing enough without something like this.

Me, I'll stick to the Duval St. Webcam and a couple of boat drinks.

Loren

Maybe it's the way he commited his crime. Bullett proof vests and assault rifles? Terrorist threats are widely defined these days.

because a simple hostage situation or a murder-suicide just doesn't give the public the feeling the police are protecting them like a good "possible terrorist threat thwarted" headline does...

[The Lost Manatee]

I'm sorry, but "person goes into strip club, kills two people and then himself" should *not* be automatically classified as "possible terrorism." I question how much stuff has been shoveled into the "possible terrorism" category in order to justify this site's existence.

Not only that, but the news is depressing enough without something like this.

Me, I'll stick to the Duval St. Webcam and a couple of boat drinks.

Loren

Maybe it's the way he commited his crime. Bullett proof vests and assault rifles? Terrorist threats are widely defined these days.

To clarify something, he didn't use assault rifles, which according to the military is a rifle with a large clip and that can fire one of three ways, a single round with each pull of the trigger, 3 or 4 rounds with each pull of the trigger or fully automatic where the rifle fires until it runs out of ammo or the trigger is released. By all accounts he used a semi-automatic rifle that permits him to fire one round each time he pulls the trigger.

I must agree that because someone goes off the deep end and shoots people at random, it really isn't a terrorist act. Terrorist are generally considered to working toward some political goal, not just expressing their anger in an extremely hostile way. This is the act of an unbalanced person who has lost his self-control.

[SchoolGirlHeart]

To clarify something, he didn't use assault rifles, which according to the military is a rifle with a large clip and that can fire one of three ways, a single round with each pull of the trigger, 3 or 4 rounds with each pull of the trigger or fully automatic where the rifle fires until it runs out of ammo or the trigger is released. By all accounts he used a semi-automatic rifle that permits him to fire one round each time he pulls the trigger.

I must agree that because someone goes off the deep end and shoots people at random, it really isn't a terrorist act. Terrorist are generally considered to working toward some political goal, not just expressing their anger in an extremely hostile way. This is the act of an unbalanced person who has lost his self-control.

Unless it didn't have a detachable magazine, under Massachusetts law, it's an assault weapon:

“Assault weapon”, shall have the same meaning as a semiautomatic assault weapon as defined Protection Act, 18 U.S.C. section 921(a)(30) as appearing in such section on September 13, 1994, and shall include, but not be limited to, any of the weapons, or copies or duplicatesin the federal Public Safety and Recreational Firearms Use of the weapons, of any caliber, known as: (i) Avtomat Kalashnikov (AK) (all models); (ii) Action Arms Israeli Military Industries UZI and Galil; (iii) Beretta Ar70 (SC-70); (iv) Colt AR-15; (v) Fabrique National FN/FAL, FN/LAR and FNC; (vi) SWD M-10, M-11, M-11/9 and M-12; (vi) Steyr AUG; (vii) INTRATEC TEC-9, TEC-DC9 and TEC-22; and (viii) revolving cylinder shotguns, such as, or similar to, the Street Sweeper and Striker 12; provided, however, that the term assault weapon shall not include: (i) any of the weapons, or replicas or duplicates of such weapons, specified in appendix A to 18 U.S.C. section 922 as appearing in such appendix on September 13, 1994, as such weapons were manufactured on October 1, 1993; (ii) any weapon that is operated by manual bolt, pump, lever or slide action; (iii) any weapon that has been rendered permanently inoperable or otherwise rendered permanently unable to be designated a semiautomatic assault weapon; (iv) any weapon that was manufactured prior to the year 1899; (v) any weapon that is an antique or relic, theatrical prop or other weapon that is not capable of firing a projectile and which is not intended for use as a functional weapon and cannot be readily modified through a combination of available parts into an operable assault weapon; (vi) any semiautomatic rifle that cannot accept a detachable magazine that holds more than five rounds of ammunition; or (vii) any semiautomatic shotgun that cannot hold more than five rounds of ammunition in a fixed or detachable magazine.

http://www.mass.gov/legis/laws/mgl/140-121.htm

I don't count this as a terrorist event, either... Just plain, old violence....

[ragtopW]

To clarify something, he didn't use assault rifles, which according to the military is a rifle with a large clip and that can fire one of three ways, a single round with each pull of the trigger, 3 or 4 rounds with each pull of the trigger or fully automatic where the rifle fires until it runs out of ammo or the trigger is released. By all accounts he used a semi-automatic rifle that permits him to fire one round each time he pulls the trigger.

I must agree that because someone goes off the deep end and shoots people at random, it really isn't a terrorist act. Terrorist are generally considered to working toward some political goal, not just expressing their anger in an extremely hostile way. This is the act of an unbalanced person who has lost his self-control.

Unless it didn't have a detachable magazine, under Massachusetts law, it's an assault weapon:

“Assault weapon”, shall have the same meaning as a semiautomatic assault weapon as defined Protection Act, 18 U.S.C. section 921(a)(30) as appearing in such section on September 13, 1994, and shall include, but not be limited to, any of the weapons, or copies or duplicatesin the federal Public Safety and Recreational Firearms Use of the weapons, of any caliber, known as: (i) Avtomat Kalashnikov (AK) (all models); (ii) Action Arms Israeli Military Industries UZI and Galil; (iii) Beretta Ar70 (SC-70); (iv) Colt AR-15; (v) Fabrique National FN/FAL, FN/LAR and FNC; (vi) SWD M-10, M-11, M-11/9 and M-12; (vi) Steyr AUG; (vii) INTRATEC TEC-9, TEC-DC9 and TEC-22; and (viii) revolving cylinder shotguns, such as, or similar to, the Street Sweeper and Striker 12; provided, however, that the term assault weapon shall not include: (i) any of the weapons, or replicas or duplicates of such weapons, specified in appendix A to 18 U.S.C. section 922 as appearing in such appendix on September 13, 1994, as such weapons were manufactured on October 1, 1993; (ii) any weapon that is operated by manual bolt, pump, lever or slide action; (iii) any weapon that has been rendered permanently inoperable or otherwise rendered permanently unable to be designated a semiautomatic assault weapon; (iv) any weapon that was manufactured prior to the year 1899; (v) any weapon that is an antique or relic, theatrical prop or other weapon that is not capable of firing a projectile and which is not intended for use as a functional weapon and cannot be readily modified through a combination of available parts into an operable assault weapon; (vi) any semiautomatic rifle that cannot accept a detachable magazine that holds more than five rounds of ammunition; or (vii) any semiautomatic shotgun that cannot hold more than five rounds of ammunition in a fixed or detachable magazine.

http://www.mass.gov/legis/laws/mgl/140-121.htm

I don't count this as a terrorist event, either... Just plain, old violence....

the orignal assault weapon..

[a1aara]

Here is a article from the Boston Globe:


3 dead, 2 officers hurt, after shooting at strip club
By Ray Henry, Associated Press Writer | December 12, 2006

NEW BEDFORD, Mass. --A man barred from a strip club after his relationship with a bartender soured returned early Tuesday dressed in SWAT gear and opened fire, killing the bartender's previous boyfriend and the club's manager before fatally shooting himself after a standoff with police.

Scott Medeiros, 35, of Freetown, walked into the Foxy Lady around 2 a.m. with a high-powered assault rifle, police Capt. Richard Spirlet said. Spirlet said Medeiros killed two people and injured three, including two responding police officers whose cruiser he sprayed with bullets.

After exchanging gunfire with police for at least 10 minutes, Medeiros killed himself, Spirlet said.

Outside the club, police cars riddled with bullet holes were parked in the street. One of the cruisers was used as a rolling shield for people as they escaped across a parking lot, Spirlet said. At the time, police were unsure if Medeiros was dead.

Club owner Tom Tsoumas said the two men killed in the attack were his nephew, Tory Marandos of Nashua, N.H., 30, who was managing the club, and a security guard, Bobby Carreiro, 33, of New Bedford.

"We had told this young man not to come near the club," Tsoumas said.

Carreiro had told the man: "'This isn't the place for you. She doesn't want to see you. It's only going to cause problems.'" he said.

"He went away, but he evidently came in last night," Tsoumas said.

Medeiros was familiar with the layout of the club because he had previously installed the security system there, Tsoumas said.

Police didn't immediately identify the bartender, who wasn't at the club when Medeiros attacked. The woman was the mother of Carreiro's young child, said Irene Thomas, a friend of Carreiro's. Medeiros had later been romantically involved with that same woman.

Several weeks ago, Medeiros tried to press charges against Carreiro related to their ongoing dispute, according to an investigator closely involved in the probe, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because he is not authorized to speak publicly about the case. The local district court did not approve charges before both men died, and the record of the complaint is sealed.

Carreiro yelled at a man Thomas did not recognize just hours before the rampage, Thomas said. She overhead the exchange in a neighboring tanning salon, peered out a window, but could only see the back of Carreiro's opponent.

"I'll be back for you and you and everyone else," the disgruntled man shouted, according to Thomas.

Spirlet said Medeiros spoke with dispatchers during the standoff, though Spirlet would not say how long they spoke or what was said.

One officer got shrapnel in the eye after he arrived with his partner and Medeiros sprayed the car with bullets, Spirlet said. The officer, whose partner was also hurt but listed in fair condition Tuesday, immediately threw the car into gear and escaped, Spirlet said. Doctors said the officer may suffer vision loss, Spirlet said.

A man inside the club was shot in both legs, Spirlet said. A woman also suffered injuries, but police are unsure what happened to her, he said.

Cab driver Nick Santiago had been outside the club early Tuesday when he saw two women pulling a bloodied man out a door facing the highway, he said. He said a man wearing a black suit and bulletproof vest was holding a gun to the women as he propped open the door for them.

"I saw two girls screaming, telling the guy who had the gun not to shoot them," Santiago said. "Obviously, the gunman saw me and told me to get the hell out of there before I get shot."

As he drove away, Santiago said he saw police officers approaching, then heard gunshots. He stopped at a gas station nearby and two women who fled the club ran to his cab.

Santiago said the women told him the shooter was a frequent customer who had been denied entry to the club.

Freetown Police Chief Carlton Abbott said Medeiros was issued a weapons license in 2005 that permitted him to buy assault-style military rifles. He was first issued a gun permit in 1991 after he told police he needed a weapon for protection because he carried large sums of money as a salesman, Abbott said.

A police background check, conducted prior to the 2005 licensing, showed that Medeiros had not been convicted of a felony, violent crime or had any restraining orders taken against him, Abbott said.

New Bedford is an historic whaling town of nearly 100,000 residents about 50 miles south of Boston. It was the site of another bar shooting in February when an 18-year-old armed with a hatchet and gun seriously injured three men in a gay bar. That attacker fled and later killed two people in Arkansas before fatally shooting himself.

In October, a 21-year-old man was charged with attempted murder for allegedly trying to run down two police officers outside the Foxy Lady after an altercation in the club.

http://www.boston.com/news/local/massac ... trip_club/