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RinglingRingling wrote:

Moonie wrote:
It is illegal to export any part of the tiger to this country, as well as the other endangered animals that I have mentioned previously...

it's probably illegal to hunt tigers and rhinos in this country too... because zoo officials take a dim view of stalking, shooting, dressing out, and packing out their charges...

yeah, but whose scared of a zookeeper really? They have guns, but they're only those dart shootin kinds

longlinergirl wrote:

RinglingRingling wrote:

Moonie wrote:
It is illegal to export any part of the tiger to this country, as well as the other endangered animals that I have mentioned previously...

it's probably illegal to hunt tigers and rhinos in this country too... because zoo officials take a dim view of stalking, shooting, dressing out, and packing out their charges...

yeah, but whose scared of a zookeeper really? They have guns, but they're only those dart shootin kinds

just ask "The Hardest (and goin' to room temp) Workin' Man in Show Business" how much fun you can have with a firearm and a system-load of PCP

RinglingRingling wrote:

longlinergirl wrote:

RinglingRingling wrote:

Moonie wrote:
It is illegal to export any part of the tiger to this country, as well as the other endangered animals that I have mentioned previously...

it's probably illegal to hunt tigers and rhinos in this country too... because zoo officials take a dim view of stalking, shooting, dressing out, and packing out their charges...

yeah, but whose scared of a zookeeper really? They have guns, but they're only those dart shootin kinds

just ask "The Hardest (and goin' to room temp) Workin' Man in Show Business" how much fun you can have with a firearm and a system-load of PCP

cooool...guns and pcp, I'm in!!!!!!

Moonie wrote:

LIPH wrote:

Moonie wrote:Kudos Shannon, and mods...Merry Christmas to you also, or whatever you celebrate this time of year...

nothing personal should have been injected into the thread, in the beginning...

Interesting comment coming from you ...

Moonie wrote:sooo, exactly what part of that do you not understand, einstein?

Moonie wrote:why would it make me feel better to confirm that you don't know anything about the program? I knew that from the start!

Moonie wrote:No ringling ... It's never been to diffucult to follow your line of reasoning...

pure stupidity...

Moonie wrote:you remind me of a swarm of sand gnats...

Moonie wrote:even the village idiot can use a thesaurus

If you're going to wade into the thick of this Larry. get your facts straight...I wasn't the one that started the personal comments...read back...

Are you denying your comments that I quoted are personal comments directed at other posters? If you're going to condemn other people for making personal comments maybe you should refrain from making them yourself. People who live in glass houses ... That's all I'm saying.

Ya know what ???? IMHO, and others.... folks are sick and tired of reading about endangered animals and such, when there are HUMAN BEINGS that don't have homes or food - through no fault of their own.

Get over yourselves and the bickering.

Get over the fact that there isn't much you, as an individual, can do about these animal body parts. Not unless you plan on quitting your jobs to become a full time activist.

Stop the bickering with others.

Peace to you all.

Okay, a couple of things here....

Can we leave the personal attacks out of this so that those who feel the need to babysit this thread can find better things to do?

I think we've muddied the waters a bit by bringing in the bear factor...since it is legal to hunt them and not legal to hunt most of the other species discussed. I guess my issue is that I really don't think the poaching of bear would be decreased by a few people giving or selling the gallbladder of a bear they legally killed...and it is still providing a source for gall in the market. Maybe I'm wrong. I'm guessing this is much like the 'legalize drugs' debate...no one is ever really going to know the consequences (positive or negative) until it's tried, and yet no one wants to shoulder the responsibility of making a decision that could have very negative results. If only we had a crystal ball.

As for whether or not the "cures" work....chemical analysis and other studies have been done on those products...there is such a small amount of the desired ingredient in them that there is really no way they could ever be effective. Any benefit would be all in the person's head. I just can't equate that with going to a chiropractor, it seems like apples and oranges to me.

Bumper...hunting rhinos depends on species and location. It is legal to get a permit for white rhinos in South Africa. No go for black rhinos, unless that change I mentioned above has been implemented. And AFAIK nowhere is it legal to hunt tigers....their numbers, like the black rhinos, are just too small.

And LLG, trust me that zookeepers have more than dart guns.

Can you imagine the amount of alcohol we'd go thru if we all had this discussion in person? Bumper and I have done that a couple of times, not necessarily on this topic. And opposing viewpoints has never gotten in the way of our friendship.

Well maybe if you got a strong batch of gall it would work...
actually I'm not even sure what a gall really is so...

Oh and I'm not messing with the zookeepers...they'll feed me to the lions...hey maybe I'm an aphrodesiac (sp?)...

As for the chiropractor...my Dr. tries to make me go everytime I see her (back problems), she totally believes he works, but he doesn;t for me, just like maybe the gall works for some...wether it be mental or not, if it works, it works...

I'm always up for drinking and discussions, my friends and I, who are generally on opposite sides of everything, do this a lot and its always fun!if you're ever in RI give me a call...

Brown Eyed Girl wrote:Can we leave the personal attacks out of this so that those who feel the need to babysit this thread can find better things to do?

Thanks, (((((Kath))))).

SMLCHNG wrote:Ya know what ???? IMHO, and others.... folks are sick and tired of reading about endangered animals and such, when there are HUMAN BEINGS that don't have homes or food - through no fault of their own.

Get over yourselves and the bickering.

Get over the fact that there isn't much you, as an individual, can do about these animal body parts. Not unless you plan on quitting your jobs to become a full time activist.

Stop the bickering with others.

Peace to you all.

Wow

Guess we need to lock a lot of other unneccesary topics here too then...like what did YOU get for Christmas when so many didn't get anything. There are a lot of pots and kettles on this board.

This world is going to be a pretty sucky place if we all adopt that attitude that one person can't make a difference. I KNOW differently, I'm sorry you've never had that opportunity. And I'm not just talking endangered species. This is obviously where you and I are going to have to agree to disagree, Pen.

Oh yeah...and remember...no one is forcing anyone to read and participate in this thread, as is mentioned all the time. I avoid all the other ***** threads that I have no interest in, I suggest that others who aren't interested in this topic do the same. Not all of us are bickering, in fact very few are.

Again, all I can say is wow.

agreed..if you don;t like a topic, don't read it...

hey look BEG, we agree on something

Guess I shouldn't express my opinions..... I had very few gifts... and I had no control over what was given to me.

longlinergirl wrote:agreed..if you don;t like a topic, don't read it...

That works.. if you're NOT a moderator...

SMLCHNG wrote:


Guess I shouldn't express my opinions..... I had very few gifts... and I had no control over what was given to me.

You can express your opinion, but really if you're sick of a subject, why would you keep reading it? Just to complain? Thats as bad as bickering...

longlinergirl wrote:Well maybe if you got a strong batch of gall it would work...
actually I'm not even sure what a gall really is so...

Oh and I'm not messing with the zookeepers...they'll feed me to the lions...hey maybe I'm an aphrodesiac (sp?)...

As for the chiropractor...my Dr. tries to make me go everytime I see her (back problems), she totally believes he works, but he doesn;t for me, just like maybe the gall works for some...wether it be mental or not, if it works, it works...

I'm always up for drinking and discussions, my friends and I, who are generally on opposite sides of everything, do this a lot and its always fun!if you're ever in RI give me a call...

As far as I know, no other species are poached or harmed to make a chiropractor...or to visit one.

I've always wondered if bear gallbladders are as crummy as human ones....if so, why would anyone want any part of it?

SMLCHNG wrote:

longlinergirl wrote:agreed..if you don;t like a topic, don't read it...

That works.. if you're NOT a moderator...

true that...my bad
but then you choose to do that so...
this is not meant to be a rude comment, just sayin

longlinergirl wrote:You can express your opinion, but really if you're sick of a subject, why would you keep reading it? Just to complain? Thats as bad as bickering...

See above. I read almost every thread on BN.

Brown Eyed Girl wrote:

longlinergirl wrote:Well maybe if you got a strong batch of gall it would work...
actually I'm not even sure what a gall really is so...

Oh and I'm not messing with the zookeepers...they'll feed me to the lions...hey maybe I'm an aphrodesiac (sp?)...

As for the chiropractor...my Dr. tries to make me go everytime I see her (back problems), she totally believes he works, but he doesn;t for me, just like maybe the gall works for some...wether it be mental or not, if it works, it works...

I'm always up for drinking and discussions, my friends and I, who are generally on opposite sides of everything, do this a lot and its always fun!if you're ever in RI give me a call...

As far as I know, no other species are poached or harmed to make a chiropractor...or to visit one.

I've always wondered if bear gallbladders are as crummy as human ones....if so, why would anyone want any part of it?

my point being that it works for some and not for others...and yeah gallbladders and liver...gross stuff

SMLCHNG wrote:

longlinergirl wrote:You can express your opinion, but really if you're sick of a subject, why would you keep reading it? Just to complain? Thats as bad as bickering...

See above. I read almost every thread on BN.

I was posting as you were posting...it was a cross posting...

longlinergirl wrote: I was posting as you were posting...it was a cross posting...

Yep.