Jimmy Buffett discussion
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uhmm it is easier to get REM tickets then Jimmy'sTiki Torches wrote:That's an example of but one fanclub. R.E.M.'s annual fee is $10 and hasn't changed since the fanclub started in the early 80s.sunseeker wrote:Hmmmm...but don't you have to pay to join a fan club to be entitled to try and buy tickets in advance? In checking the DMB website, that cost $35 ...so in essence a $75 ticket with the cost of the fan club would be $110?
Yes, but like I said, that's only one example. The fee to join band fanclubs is different across the board. There's also the added advantage to being able to purchase tickets via a fanclub presale before they're on sale to the general public. In that instance it's up to the individual fan as to whether or not the $35 a year fanclub fee is worth it to have that advantage. There's also the possibility that said fan will be attending more than one show. In that case it's not going to be $110 a ticket every time they purchase one.sunseeker wrote:But do you agree that with that reasoning, then DMB ticket prices aren't so affordable anymore...Tiki Torches wrote:That's an example of but one fanclub. R.E.M.'s annual fee is $10 and hasn't changed since the fanclub started in the early 80s.sunseeker wrote:Hmmmm...but don't you have to pay to join a fan club to be entitled to try and buy tickets in advance? In checking the DMB website, that cost $35 ...so in essence a $75 ticket with the cost of the fan club would be $110?
First, I wouldn't mention Dave Matthews in the same sentence at Jimmy Buffett. At $10 I think his tickets would be overpriced. Second, are you saying because Buffett's made his millions already he shouldn't make anymore? It sure sounds that way.Tiki Torches wrote:I've acknowledged several times during this exchange that I was refering to the high end ticket prices. Yes, the lawn tickets are affordable but I'm not referring to those. If an artist of Dave Matthews stature can charge $40-50 for good seats, so can Buffett but he doesn't. He's made his millions so at this point it comes down to a matter of greed.LIPH wrote:You keep pounding away at the $126 tickets. Buffett doesn't charge $126 for every seat in the house and that's something you're conveniently ignoring. Once again - $26 in Orlando, $39.50 in Tallahassee, $36 for lawn tickets for at least the last 2 tours. Are you saying those prices aren't affordable?Tiki Torches wrote:In regards to Buffett offering tickets at a "reasonable" price, I'm not the only one in this thread that's pointed out that we feel $126 is unreasonable. This is underlined by the fact that other performers of a similar (if not more well known) stature try to keep the price of tickets down. Buffett isn't doing this. In that regard, the performers that are actually making the effort to keep ticket prices down are going to get my money, not Buffett.
In some cases that may be true but that's beside the point. The point is, bands like R.E.M. and others have set up fanclubs to make it easier to obtain tickets, period.Capt.Flock wrote:uhmm it is easier to get REM tickets then Jimmy'sTiki Torches wrote:That's an example of but one fanclub. R.E.M.'s annual fee is $10 and hasn't changed since the fanclub started in the early 80s.sunseeker wrote:Hmmmm...but don't you have to pay to join a fan club to be entitled to try and buy tickets in advance? In checking the DMB website, that cost $35 ...so in essence a $75 ticket with the cost of the fan club would be $110?
well it makes it easier for scalpers to get tickets tooTiki Torches wrote:In some cases that may be true but that's beside the point. The point is, bands like R.E.M. and others have set up fanclubs to make it easier to obtain tickets, period.Capt.Flock wrote:uhmm it is easier to get REM tickets then Jimmy'sTiki Torches wrote:That's an example of but one fanclub. R.E.M.'s annual fee is $10 and hasn't changed since the fanclub started in the early 80s.sunseeker wrote:Hmmmm...but don't you have to pay to join a fan club to be entitled to try and buy tickets in advance? In checking the DMB website, that cost $35 ...so in essence a $75 ticket with the cost of the fan club would be $110?
I already pointed that out and he chose to ignore it because it doesn't fit his world view of Buffett as the master of greed.sunseeker wrote:But you can get tickets for Jimmy through you local fan club as well....
Now you're putting words in my mouth that I never once uttered. Yes, I acknowledged that fans can get tix through their local PH clubs but what if they don't have one locally? Wouldn't it make more sense to set up something through Margaritaville.com that would enable all of his fanbase to join so they could be privy to ticket presales?LIPH wrote:I already pointed that out and he chose to ignore it because it doesn't fit his world view of Buffett as the master of greed.sunseeker wrote:But you can get tickets for Jimmy through you local fan club as well....
that would be called ticketmaster....Tiki Torches wrote:Wouldn't it make more sense to set up something through Margaritaville.com that would enable all of his fanbase to join so they could be privy to ticket presales?
What words did I put in your mouth? You've spent most of this thread saying Buffett's only charging what he does because he's greedy.Tiki Torches wrote:Now you're putting words in my mouth that I never once uttered. Yes, I acknowledged that fans can get tix through their local PH clubs but what if they don't have one locally? Wouldn't it make more sense to set up something through Margaritaville.com that would enable all of his fanbase to join so they could be privy to ticket presales?LIPH wrote:I already pointed that out and he chose to ignore it because it doesn't fit his world view of Buffett as the master of greed.sunseeker wrote:But you can get tickets for Jimmy through you local fan club as well....
That's your opinion of Matthews, which doesn't even enter into the conversation here. I'm not a fan of his either, I merely used him as an example, which is the problem with naming specific performers in this type of discussion. So, you don't care for his music, what does that have to do with how he helps to keep ticket prices down? I named him because, like Buffett, he's a big concert draw nationwide yet he manages to keep the price of tickets down while Buffett doesn't.LIPH wrote:First, I wouldn't mention Dave Matthews in the same sentence at Jimmy Buffett. At $10 I think his tickets would be overpriced.
That isn't what I'm saying at all. You're putting words in my mouth I never once uttered. Sure he deserves to make more money. I'm just saying at this point in his career where he's a millionaire, does he really have to charge $126 for high end seats, especially when there are performers out there equal to (if not superior to) his status that actually make an effort to keep prices down? Pearl Jam sell out large stadiums internationally yet they somehow manage to keep the cost of ticket prices down. Buffett and other performers could do the same but they choose not to.LIPH wrote:Second, are you saying because Buffett's made his millions already he shouldn't make anymore? It sure sounds that way.
Too much.sunseeker wrote:how much are pearl jam tickets?
bravoIndiana Jolly Mon wrote:AAAHHHHH! I cant read anymore of this without summing up what a few people cant seem to understand:
1) Tickets are not all $126.00, that is the most expensive, there are a LOT of others.
2) The fact that the scalpers get a ton of tickets and charge a lot is NOT JIMMY'S FAULT. Blame ticketmaster.
3) Scalpers are smart enough to join fan clubs for presales.
4) JB is not DMB, why in the hell does every argument go back to that? Why compare the two? A better comparison is U2 or the Stones.
If you dont want to pay 40 for a lawn seat, then DONT GO, please STFU about it, stop whining and if you have so much time, get a second job so you can afford the $40.00
Yes JB has a lot of money, and yes he wants to make more, that is the way it works, we are not communists. Dont fault the man for treating his business like a business.
You said I chose ignore the Parrothead club thing because it didn't fit my world view of Buffett as the master of greed. I never once said he was "the master of greed". Greedy? Yes, because I can see no other reason why he would continue to charge $126 for high end tickets when other performers that also fill large arenas and stadiums actually make an effort to keep ticket prices affordable.LIPH wrote:What words did I put in your mouth? You've spent most of this thread saying Buffett's only charging what he does because he's greedy.Tiki Torches wrote:Now you're putting words in my mouth that I never once uttered. Yes, I acknowledged that fans can get tix through their local PH clubs but what if they don't have one locally? Wouldn't it make more sense to set up something through Margaritaville.com that would enable all of his fanbase to join so they could be privy to ticket presales?LIPH wrote:I already pointed that out and he chose to ignore it because it doesn't fit his world view of Buffett as the master of greed.sunseeker wrote:But you can get tickets for Jimmy through you local fan club as well....
I wasn't aware of that. I just figured he'd have something set up similar to other peformers that would be through his official web site rather than the Parrothead Clubs. From other responses in this thread I don't see how this has made it easier for fans to obtain tix. Do these PH clubs offer pre-sales?LIPH wrote:I belong to 2 Parrot Head clubs, neither of which is local to where I live. I used to belong to a third that wasn't local either. I joined them because I have friends in the clubs who are local and I've gotten club tickets to concerts from each club. There's also a Virtual Parrot Head club that anyone can join and be eligible for club tickets.