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BottleofRum wrote:

LIPH wrote:

BottleofRum wrote:1984 Giants: The team lands defensive anchors Carl Banks and William Roberts in Round 1. They later add QB Jeff Hostetler, LB Gary Reasons, and WR Lionel Manuel.

William Roberts would have had a hard time anchoring the defense from his position at guard.

Send a email to Ben Volin ben_volin@pbpost.com the person who wrote the article and let them know your displeasure.

I wasn't expressing displeasure. More surprise that someone like you, who claims to know so much more about sports than anyone else, would have missed such an obvious error.

LIPH wrote:

BottleofRum wrote:

LIPH wrote:

BottleofRum wrote:1984 Giants: The team lands defensive anchors Carl Banks and William Roberts in Round 1. They later add QB Jeff Hostetler, LB Gary Reasons, and WR Lionel Manuel.

William Roberts would have had a hard time anchoring the defense from his position at guard.

Send a email to Ben Volin ben_volin@pbpost.com the person who wrote the article and let them know your displeasure.

I wasn't expressing displeasure. More surprise that someone like you, who claims to know so much more about sports than anyone else, would have missed such an obvious error.

Obvious Error! Really It was a copy and paste, unlike you I actually have things to do so I can't check every word and every line of of a 4,500+ word article that i didn't write. But thanks for playing.

I was 7 in 1984! I guess a weak point of mine are Defensive linemen drafted by the NY Giants in the mid 1980's.

Patrick Willis was named the Defensive Player of the Year by the AP.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d ... nfirm=true

aeroparrot wrote:Patrick Willis was named the Defensive Player of the Year by the AP.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d ... nfirm=true

I'll steal Larry's thunder and remind you he is the Defensive ROOKIE of the Year.

Tom Brady nearly the unanimous choice for MVP

The lone 1st place vote that did not go to Brady went to Favre.

jonesbeach10 wrote:Tom Brady nearly the unanimous choice for MVP

The lone 1st place vote that did not go to Brady went to Favre.

I feel similar to QB's in the NFL as I do big power hitters in MLB . . . important but so overrated.

I realize that Tom Brady had to get the MVP this year . . . but I don't even think he was the MVP of the Patriots (Mike Vrabel) let alone the entire NFL.

But if you give the MVP to a QB who threw 50 td's for the record you can't really justify giving 1 first place vote to another QB who was nowhere near as effective.

If you want to give a first place vote to someone other than Brady I very much agree . . . but not another QB. Impossible. Don't make sense.

A Bob Sanders or Albert Hayenswoth come to mind . . . or if we are talking value how bout those Mario Williams/ Mike Vrable type players? No players in the NFL are more valuable than these type of players . . .

drunkpirate66 wrote:

jonesbeach10 wrote:Tom Brady nearly the unanimous choice for MVP

The lone 1st place vote that did not go to Brady went to Favre.

I feel similar to QB's in the NFL as I do big power hitters in MLB . . . important but so overrated.

I realize that Tom Brady had to get the MVP this year . . . but I don't even think he was the MVP of the Patriots (Mike Vrabel) let alone the entire NFL.

But if you give the MVP to a QB who threw 50 td's for the record you can't really justify giving 1 first place vote to another QB who was nowhere near as effective.

If you want to give a first place vote to someone other than Brady I very much agree . . . but not another QB. Impossible. Don't make sense.

A Bob Sanders or Albert Hayenswoth come to mind . . . or if we are talking value how bout those Mario Williams/ Mike Vrable type players? No players in the NFL are more valuable than these type of players . . .

Would you consider Marion (sp???) Barber of the Cowboys? I think without him, the Cowboys wouldn't have been the number 1 seed, let alone in the playoffs.

aeroparrot wrote:

drunkpirate66 wrote:

jonesbeach10 wrote:Tom Brady nearly the unanimous choice for MVP

The lone 1st place vote that did not go to Brady went to Favre.

I feel similar to QB's in the NFL as I do big power hitters in MLB . . . important but so overrated.

I realize that Tom Brady had to get the MVP this year . . . but I don't even think he was the MVP of the Patriots (Mike Vrabel) let alone the entire NFL.

But if you give the MVP to a QB who threw 50 td's for the record you can't really justify giving 1 first place vote to another QB who was nowhere near as effective.

If you want to give a first place vote to someone other than Brady I very much agree . . . but not another QB. Impossible. Don't make sense.

A Bob Sanders or Albert Hayenswoth come to mind . . . or if we are talking value how bout those Mario Williams/ Mike Vrable type players? No players in the NFL are more valuable than these type of players . . .

Would you consider Marion (sp???) Barber of the Cowboys? I think without him, the Cowboys wouldn't have been the number 1 seed, let alone in the playoffs.

For league MVP? No. Terrence Newman maybe . . . but linebackers other defensive players are way ahead.

From the anyone can sue anyone department.

http://www.sanduskyregister.com/article ... 550287.txt
Bar files suit over Patriots-Cowboys broadcast

Cheers Sports Bar & Grill is usually known as the place where everybody sees the game.

But that wasn't the case on Dec. 29 game day.

Only a handful of people frequented the bar to see the match-up between the New England Patriots and the New York Giants that led the Patriots to a 16-0 regular season. The lack of business sparked a lawsuit.

Although the game was scheduled to be broadcast on the subscriber-only NFL Network, the NFL decided to simulcast it on NBC and CBS. This decision caused his bar to lose money on game day, claims Cheers general manager Christopher Biechele.

Biechele filed a lawsuit this week in Erie County Common Pleas Court against DirecTV, his bar's satellite provider, for charging him to show the Patriots-Giants game, while non-subscribers received the game for free on network stations. Biechele paid $151.99 in December for his DirecTV subscription, which gives him access to the NFL Network.

"I'm paying for something that not everyone else is paying for, and they decided to just give the game away," Biechele said. "It's a frustration."

DirecTV public relations staff did not return e-mail requests for an interview Thursday, nor could they be reached by telephone.

The NFL decided to simulcast the Patriots-Giants game on NBC and CBS after requests from Sen. Patrick Leahy, D-Vt., Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass. and Sen. Arlen Specter, R-Pa. Almost 35 million people watched the game.

Sports-oriented bars such as Cheers subscribe to channels like the NFL Network because the games often help bring in business, Biechele said.

Half an hour before the start of November's Green Bay Packers-Dallas Cowboys game, which was broadcast on the NFL Network, there were about 50 people at Cheers, Biechele said. But half an hour before the Patriots-Giants game, there were only six people in the bar.

"I had brought in extra help, figuring the bar was going to be really busy," Biechele said. "I had also bought a (lot) of extra beer and booze."

Biechele says he filed the lawsuit not just for himself, but on behalf of other bar owners who lost business on Dec. 29. The lawsuit asks for individual compensatory damages, as well as a court order barring DirecTV from billing subscribers for products and services for which they did not agree.

"This business is hard enough as it is," he said. "How many bars are there in Ohio and across the United States that are sports oriented who pay for these channels? They took all that business away from us."

Biechele estimates that he spends between $12,000 and $15,000 a year on satellite subscriptions for various sporting events, from March Madness to Nascar racing. He says he is now stuck in a difficult situation.

"I'm in a catch-22; I can't cancel my subscription," Biechele said. "If you want to provide this stuff for customers who come in, you've got to pay."

A question. In the Redskins kick off and there was a muff on the kickoff and the Redskins recovered and tried to run it in for the touchdown but was ruled down on where the fumble was recovered. Why was this?

I'm asking myself the same question

aeroparrot wrote:A question. In the Redskins kick off and there was a muff on the kickoff and the Redskins recovered and tried to run it in for the touchdown but was ruled down on where the fumble was recovered. Why was this?

thebeachbumm33 wrote:I'm asking myself the same question

aeroparrot wrote:A question. In the Redskins kick off and there was a muff on the kickoff and the Redskins recovered and tried to run it in for the touchdown but was ruled down on where the fumble was recovered. Why was this?

Becasue no Seahawk touched the ball. On the kick off this is the rule. If a Seahawk touched it and then a Skin picked it up he could've run for the td.

Otherwise it is down on point of contact.

Looking like another home playoff loss by Pittsburgh, it's like groundhog day.

SuperTrooper wrote:

aeroparrot wrote:Patrick Willis was named the Defensive Player of the Year by the AP.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d ... nfirm=true

I'll steal Larry's thunder and remind you he is the Defensive ROOKIE of the Year.

Go Niners!!!!

I still think Ben Roethlinsberger will find a way to blow the game.

Sorry Ravi.
I thought maybe you'd come to Big D to watch your Redskins lose to the Cowboys.

Trust me, you'll have loads more fun if you come to "D" for the Jimmy show.

BottleofRum wrote:From the anyone can sue anyone department.

http://www.sanduskyregister.com/article ... 550287.txt
Bar files suit over Patriots-Cowboys broadcast

Cheers Sports Bar & Grill is usually known as the place where everybody sees the game.

But that wasn't the case on Dec. 29 game day.

Only a handful of people frequented the bar to see the match-up between the New England Patriots and the New York Giants that led the Patriots to a 16-0 regular season. The lack of business sparked a lawsuit.

Although the game was scheduled to be broadcast on the subscriber-only NFL Network, the NFL decided to simulcast it on NBC and CBS. This decision caused his bar to lose money on game day, claims Cheers general manager Christopher Biechele.

Biechele filed a lawsuit this week in Erie County Common Pleas Court against DirecTV, his bar's satellite provider, for charging him to show the Patriots-Giants game, while non-subscribers received the game for free on network stations. Biechele paid $151.99 in December for his DirecTV subscription, which gives him access to the NFL Network.

"I'm paying for something that not everyone else is paying for, and they decided to just give the game away," Biechele said. "It's a frustration."

DirecTV public relations staff did not return e-mail requests for an interview Thursday, nor could they be reached by telephone.

The NFL decided to simulcast the Patriots-Giants game on NBC and CBS after requests from Sen. Patrick Leahy, D-Vt., Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass. and Sen. Arlen Specter, R-Pa. Almost 35 million people watched the game.

Sports-oriented bars such as Cheers subscribe to channels like the NFL Network because the games often help bring in business, Biechele said.

Half an hour before the start of November's Green Bay Packers-Dallas Cowboys game, which was broadcast on the NFL Network, there were about 50 people at Cheers, Biechele said. But half an hour before the Patriots-Giants game, there were only six people in the bar.

"I had brought in extra help, figuring the bar was going to be really busy," Biechele said. "I had also bought a (lot) of extra beer and booze."

Biechele says he filed the lawsuit not just for himself, but on behalf of other bar owners who lost business on Dec. 29. The lawsuit asks for individual compensatory damages, as well as a court order barring DirecTV from billing subscribers for products and services for which they did not agree.

"This business is hard enough as it is," he said. "How many bars are there in Ohio and across the United States that are sports oriented who pay for these channels? They took all that business away from us."

Biechele estimates that he spends between $12,000 and $15,000 a year on satellite subscriptions for various sporting events, from March Madness to Nascar racing. He says he is now stuck in a difficult situation.

"I'm in a catch-22; I can't cancel my subscription," Biechele said. "If you want to provide this stuff for customers who come in, you've got to pay."

Directv has no hold over what (or in this case where) programing
each channel provides..
if the NFL channel chooses to allow other sources to provide
the game Directv cannot (by contract) stop them..
I think the Bar owner is confusing the Sunday ticket
to the NFL channel

and the March madness and Nascar packages are not even
a connected issue..

ragtopW wrote: Directv has no hold over what (or in this case where) programing
each channel provides..
if the NFL channel chooses to allow other sources to provide
the game Directv cannot (by contract) stop them..
I think the Bar owner is confusing the Sunday ticket
to the NFL channel

and the March madness and Nascar packages are not even
a connected issue..

Uh huh.. wSs.

It was groundhog day, the last time I saw a team blow a big lead in a playoff game was the Patriots last season

BottleofRum wrote:I still think Ben Roethlinsberger will find a way to blow the game.

And he did