Mike Vick Accepts Plea Deal, Will Go To Prison

BottleofRum · Post by **BottleofRum** » August 20, 2007 2:38 pm

Atlanta Falcons quarterback Michael Vick accepted a plea deal Monday and lengthy prison sentence to avoid additional federal charges in a dogfighting case that has driven his NFL career to a halt.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2983121

I still say they should have bathed him in pig blood and locked him in a room with the dogs he trained to fight.

Either way I hope he rots in jail and never plays in the NFL again!

ejr · Post by **ejr** » August 20, 2007 3:01 pm

Whatever the sentence is, it will not be long enough!!!

popcornjack · Post by **popcornjack** » August 20, 2007 3:09 pm

here's the story from Yahoo: http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=a ... &type=lgns

carey24 · Post by **carey24** » August 20, 2007 3:11 pm

...."Michael wishes to apologize again to everyone who has been hurt by this matter.”

I'll believe his "apology" when I see him volunteering at a humane society and see the receipts for all the millions of dollars he donates to help homeless animals. Why do I have a feeling I won't see either of those?!?!?!?!?!?!?

pbans · Post by **pbans** » August 20, 2007 3:15 pm

carey24 wrote:...."Michael wishes to apologize again to everyone who has been hurt by this matter.”

I'll believe his "apology" when I see him volunteering at a humane society and see the receipts for all the millions of dollars he donates to help homeless animals. Why do I have a feeling I won't see either of those?!?!?!?!?!?!?

He should have to shovel dog sh*t out of kennels for the rest of his life.....
An apology....gee, my hunch is it really went something like this....
"I'm so sorry I got CAUGHT...."

LIPH · Post by **LIPH** » August 20, 2007 3:21 pm

I'm anxious to see what his sentence is. He can get 5 years and a $250,000 fine. I doubt if he'll get the max but he has to do time. A lifetime ban from the NFL would be nice too.

AdamBomb8 · Post by **AdamBomb8** » August 20, 2007 3:25 pm

If you're playing fantasy football take him off your draft list, he won't be playing anytime soon.

CaptainP · Post by **CaptainP** » August 20, 2007 3:28 pm

A celebrity actually doing real prison time? I'll believe it when it actually starts.

popcornjack · Post by **popcornjack** » August 20, 2007 3:29 pm

LIPH wrote:I'm anxious to see what his sentence is. He can get 5 years and a $250,000 fine. I doubt if he'll get the max but he has to do time. A lifetime ban from the NFL would be nice too.

I read somewhere that the feds will probably ask for 12-18 months of time, and, because of the gambling aspect, he could be banned for life due to the NFL's "personal conduct" clause.

krusin1 · Post by **krusin1** » August 20, 2007 3:35 pm

ejr wrote:Whatever the sentence is, it will not be long enough!!!

I agree, although I'm having a hard time with the idea that Vick might spend 12-18 months in prison for dog fighting while Leonard Little (St. Louis Rams) killed a woman while driving drunk in 1998 and only got 90 days "shock time" in a "workhouse," a fine, and 1,000 hours community service.

Something is seriously wrong with our justice system... I'm thinking we ought to lock up both of 'em.

CaptainP · Post by **CaptainP** » August 20, 2007 3:36 pm

popcornjack wrote:
LIPH wrote:I'm anxious to see what his sentence is. He can get 5 years and a $250,000 fine. I doubt if he'll get the max but he has to do time. A lifetime ban from the NFL would be nice too.
I read somewhere that the feds will probably ask for 12-18 months of time, and, because of the gambling aspect, he could be banned for life due to the NFL's "morality" clause.

He should have been banned long ago for his 53% completion rate.

CaptainP · Post by **CaptainP** » August 20, 2007 3:37 pm

One thing is sure....he wasn't the one who drowned any dogs. If he had tried to throw one in the pool, he would have missed....

Skibo · Post by **Skibo** » August 20, 2007 3:40 pm

This isn't over. Now that the federal charges are done I am sure there are some state charges that will be coming out in the near future. As far as actions by the NFL go, I don't think they should do anything. During his prison sentence, he will not be able to report to work. Once he is released, he should be considered "rehabilitated" and still have the right to earn a living. Even then I can't imagine anyone wanting to sign a bad QB that hasn't suited up for two seasons at a minimum.

Marv Albert got a second chance, it appears that Imus will too. I just don't like glumming on the person and attaching additional punishments to a sentence. The legal system hands out the punishments not everyone else.

SharkOnLand · Post by **SharkOnLand** » August 20, 2007 3:42 pm

Skibo wrote:This isn't over. Now that the federal charges are done I am sure there are some state charges that will be coming out in the near future. As far as actions by the NFL go, I don't think they should do anything. During his prison sentence, he will not be able to report to work. Once he is released, he should be considered "rehabilitated" and still have the right to earn a living. Even then I can't imagine anyone wanting to sign a bad QB that hasn't suited up for two seasons at a minimum.

Marv Albert got a second chance, it appears that Imus will too. I just don't like glumming on the person and attaching additional punishments to a sentence. The legal system hands out the punishments not everyone else.

His "second chance" will probably come in the form of Canuckian football. I think he'll be banned from the NFL for a long time, if not a lifetime ban.

popcornjack · Post by **popcornjack** » August 20, 2007 4:06 pm

CaptainP wrote:One thing is sure....he wasn't the one who drowned any dogs. If he had tried to throw one in the pool, he would have missed....

That's just wrong.

And funny.

Skibo · Post by **Skibo** » August 20, 2007 4:07 pm

SharkOnLand wrote: His "second chance" will probably come in the form of Canuckian football. I think he'll be banned from the NFL for a long time, if not a lifetime ban.

I think his 'second chance' will be from walmart or 7-11. By the time he is done serving his time he won't be worth much to any football team. Even in the Canadian system.

tikitatas · Post by **tikitatas** » August 20, 2007 4:09 pm

Skibo wrote:
SharkOnLand wrote: His "second chance" will probably come in the form of Canuckian football. I think he'll be banned from the NFL for a long time, if not a lifetime ban.
I think his 'second chance' will be from walmart or 7-11. By the time he is done serving his time he won't be worth much to any football team. Even in the Canadian system.

Heck no -- WE don't want him.

CaptainP · Post by **CaptainP** » August 20, 2007 4:10 pm

Skibo wrote:
SharkOnLand wrote: His "second chance" will probably come in the form of Canuckian football. I think he'll be banned from the NFL for a long time, if not a lifetime ban.
I think his 'second chance' will be from walmart or 7-11. By the time he is done serving his time he won't be worth much to any football team. Even in the Canadian system.

When he gets out of jail, he'll probably be in his 30s. His legs will have slowed from lack of use, his quickness gone. Based on his passing ability, he'll be no better an NFL quarterback at that point than Anthony Dilweg or TJ Rubley

mjeischen · Post by **mjeischen** » August 20, 2007 4:47 pm

I think the NFL ban is coming. It clearly stated in the espn article that the plead of guilty is contrary to what Vick told the team and the league. So he clearly lied or misrepresented the truth.

I think with the general public handing in their opinion on punishment is basically telling the courts we believe the judicial system is soft.

PJ · Post by PJ » August 20, 2007 4:59 pm

Skibo wrote:This isn't over. Now that the federal charges are done I am sure there are some state charges that will be coming out in the near future. As far as actions by the NFL go, I don't think they should do anything. During his prison sentence, he will not be able to report to work. Once he is released, he should be considered "rehabilitated" and still have the right to earn a living. Even then I can't imagine anyone wanting to sign a bad QB that hasn't suited up for two seasons at a minimum.

Marv Albert got a second chance, it appears that Imus will too. I just don't like glumming on the person and attaching additional punishments to a sentence. The legal system hands out the punishments not everyone else.

We won't know until the hearing next Monday, but speculation had been that a plea on the Federal charges would include a "no prosecute" waiver on state charges. Not sure if that will happen, but a lot of times pleas in Federal cases will include immunity from state charges. If not, Virginia statutes have up to 40 year jail terms for these charges.

The thing with the NFL, the league is basically a business in itself, and it has the right to fire (suspend indefinately) any of its employees (players) just as a major corporation has the right to do when dealing with convicted/admitted felons, especially when gambling is an issue. Banks and mortgage companies fire employess all the time if the employee files bankruptcy or has gamblign issues, because it is a danger to the company that the employee could try to steal money or not be fiscally responsible.

The NFL could easily use the gamblign aspect of this as a basis for a lifetime ban (such as with MLB and Pete Rose) because they could say the gambling could possibly extend to football, and that could have Vick potentially throwing games, etc.