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Anyone Remember The Exxon Valdez

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In this time of record profits would you be surprised that Exxon has NEVER paid their fine for the incident in 1989?

Exxon Valdez plaintiffs want $5 billion award restored


By Yereth Rosen
1 hour, 36 minutes ago



ANCHORAGE, Alaska (Reuters) - Plaintiffs in the long-running case surrounding the 1989 Exxon Valdez oil disaster this week asked the U.S. Supreme Court to restore a $5 billion punitive fine against Exxon Mobil Corp, a petition filed with highest U.S. court shows.

The petition, filed Tuesday, followed one filed last week by Exxon Mobil that asked the Supreme Court to overturn the $2.5 billion punitive fine assessed by the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals.

The appeals court had halved a $5 billion fine imposed in 1994 by a federal district court jury sitting in Anchorage. The class-action suit involves about 32,000 commercial fishermen, Alaska Natives, property owners and others harmed by the spill.

In perhaps the most infamous oil accident in U.S. history, the tanker Exxon Valdez ran aground, spilling 11 million gallons of crude oil that spread to about 1,300 coastline miles. It closed commercial fisheries in Prince William Sound and the Gulf of Alaska and killed thousands of marine mammals and hundreds of thousands of seabirds.

The plaintiffs will respond by September 20 to Exxon's effort to overturn the $2.5 billion fine, said David Tarshes, one of the plaintiff's attorneys.

The plaintiffs' petition argues that no Supreme Court review is needed, and that it "could prolong the case for many years to come."

Plaintiffs say the case has already dragged on too long.

They say that in the years that Exxon and its successor Exxon Mobil have challenged the jury's verdict, a fifth of the plaintiff class members have died while the oil giant has recouped the entire $5 billion though its internal corporate rate of return, the petition said.

And Exxon Mobil earned record profits recently, setting quarterly and annual highs for the most money made in corporate history.

In a prepared statement, Exxon Mobil spokesman Tony Cudmore said the company has already paid $3.5 billion in cleanup costs, compensation and settlements and does not deserve to be further punished for the spill.

"We acknowledge that the Exxon Valdez oil spill was a very emotional event for many in Alaska, :o :evil: :evil: and to some, those feelings remain strong even today," the statement said. "As we have said many times, the Valdez oil spill was a tragic accident, one which the corporation deeply regrets, and one for which the corporation has paid significantly."

If the Supreme Court does take up the case, it should restore the original verdict, the petition said. They say Exxon Mobil deserves the punitive fine because of its "reprehensible" conduct before the spill, and cited a pattern of bad behavior by Exxon Valdez Captain Joseph Hazelwood, who the plaintiffs say was drunk when the tanker hit a reef.

"Hazelwood was a relapsed alcoholic, and Exxon knew it," the petition said.

The cleanup recovered only about 14 percent of the spilled oil, and tape-recorded comments from an Exxon official at the time suggested that it was mounted more for publicity than effectiveness, :o :evil: :evil: :evil: the petition said.
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if nothing else, the punative damages should be restored because the tactic of delaying payment to reduce the claimant pool should be punished.
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:evil: :evil: :evil: That is unbelieveable :evil: :evil: :evil:
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I am opposed to punitive damages in any case. They are nothing more than a grab for cash. They paid for the cleanup, they paid the fines associated with the crash, they paid damages to the state and locals that were affected. Enough is enough.
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There is an old joke about lawyers that goes like this:

Q. What do you call 500 lawyers at the bottom of the ocean?

A. A good start.

I think we could streamline the way our society works by adopting the following refinement:

Q. What do you call 500 CORPORATE lawyers at the bottom of the ocean?

A. A DARN good start.



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disclaimer: this post is a work of fiction. no corporate lawyers were harmed in the manufacture of this post and the contents of this post in no way constitue a threat to the physical and/or mental well-being of any corporate lawyer, real or imaginary.
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Skibo wrote:I am opposed to punitive damages in any case. They are nothing more than a grab for cash. They paid for the cleanup, they paid the fines associated with the crash, they paid damages to the state and locals that were affected. Enough is enough.

I think you may feel differently if you or your family was directly affected. Exxon did a p*** poor job cleaning up their mess. I know they are counting on people forgetting how things unfolded.
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Tequila Revenge wrote:
Skibo wrote:I am opposed to punitive damages in any case. They are nothing more than a grab for cash. They paid for the cleanup, they paid the fines associated with the crash, they paid damages to the state and locals that were affected. Enough is enough.

I think you may feel differently if you or your family was directly affected. Exxon did a p*** poor job cleaning up their mess. I know they are counting on people forgetting how things unfolded.
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Tequila Revenge wrote:
Skibo wrote:I am opposed to punitive damages in any case. They are nothing more than a grab for cash. They paid for the cleanup, they paid the fines associated with the crash, they paid damages to the state and locals that were affected. Enough is enough.

I think you may feel differently if you or your family was directly affected. Exxon did a p*** poor job cleaning up their mess. I know they are counting on people forgetting how things unfolded.
And they are right. People forget and frankly, most Americans don't realize that Big Business gets away with murder every single day. ( Along with Nicole Ritchie , Lindsay Lohan and other famous celebrities ).

Conservatives complain about the abuse of power of Big Government. THAT"S NOT the Problem. It's the abuse of power of BIG BUSINESS that is the problem in this country.

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lati2d wrote:
Tequila Revenge wrote:
Skibo wrote:I am opposed to punitive damages in any case. They are nothing more than a grab for cash. They paid for the cleanup, they paid the fines associated with the crash, they paid damages to the state and locals that were affected. Enough is enough.

I think you may feel differently if you or your family was directly affected. Exxon did a p*** poor job cleaning up their mess. I know they are counting on people forgetting how things unfolded.
And they are right. People forget and frankly, most Americans don't realize that Big Business gets away with murder every single day. ( Along with Nicole Ritchie , Lindsay Lohan and other famous celebrities ).

Conservatives complain about the abuse of power of Big Government. THAT"S NOT the Problem. It's the abuse of power of BIG BUSINESS that is the problem in this country.

OK - I feel better. Have a good Labor Day and enjoy Jimmy!
accountability, leveling the playing field using the courts, what a concept.
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RinglingRingling wrote: accountability, leveling the playing field using the courts, what a concept.
level the playing field? that's what Sam Colt's invention is for.
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CapnK wrote:
RinglingRingling wrote: accountability, leveling the playing field using the courts, what a concept.
level the playing field? that's what Sam Colt's invention is for.
unfortunately, they have metal detectors at the Exxon corp offices..
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lati2d wrote:Conservatives complain about the abuse of power of Big Government. THAT"S NOT the Problem. It's the abuse of power of BIG BUSINESS that is the problem in this country.
Yeah, all those evil corporations. How dare they employ millions of people. And in so doing support the employment of hundred's of millions more. How dare they be accountable to their shareholders. How dare they provide the foundation for our entire economy.

Corporations can, just like any individual, do something illegal. The courts allow remediation of that.
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RinglingRingling wrote:
accountability, leveling the playing field using the courts, what a concept.
but business, like life, is not fair.

i sure don't want my kids' academic, athletic, or artistic playing field leveled. i want them to strive to achieve to be the best they can be. i want someone to keep score at their soccer games. i want them to be rewarded and recognized for the "A" grades they get for working so hard. likewise, i want them to know what it's like to lose or fail or not get something so they know how to pick themselves up and keep working hard.

businesses and individuals as part of those business should absolutely be accountable to the law, but they should not be punished for being successful.
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buffettbride wrote:
RinglingRingling wrote:
accountability, leveling the playing field using the courts, what a concept.
but business, like life, is not fair.

i sure don't want my kids' academic, athletic, or artistic playing field leveled. i want them to strive to achieve to be the best they can be. i want someone to keep score at their soccer games. i want them to be rewarded and recognized for the "A" grades they get for working so hard. likewise, i want them to know what it's like to lose or fail or not get something so they know how to pick themselves up and keep working hard.

businesses and individuals as part of those business should absolutely be accountable to the law, but they should not be punished for being successful.
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green1 wrote:
buffettbride wrote:
RinglingRingling wrote:
accountability, leveling the playing field using the courts, what a concept.
but business, like life, is not fair.

i sure don't want my kids' academic, athletic, or artistic playing field leveled. i want them to strive to achieve to be the best they can be. i want someone to keep score at their soccer games. i want them to be rewarded and recognized for the "A" grades they get for working so hard. likewise, i want them to know what it's like to lose or fail or not get something so they know how to pick themselves up and keep working hard.

businesses and individuals as part of those business should absolutely be accountable to the law, but they should not be punished for being successful.
You said it better than I ever could.
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RinglingRingling wrote:
Tequila Revenge wrote:
Skibo wrote:I am opposed to punitive damages in any case. They are nothing more than a grab for cash. They paid for the cleanup, they paid the fines associated with the crash, they paid damages to the state and locals that were affected. Enough is enough.

I think you may feel differently if you or your family was directly affected. Exxon did a p*** poor job cleaning up their mess. I know they are counting on people forgetting how things unfolded.
and dying..
It is ridiculous, with all of the profits that they have had in the recent years, they should pay for their mistake, wasn't the captain drunk or something like that?
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And how dare we hold them accountable for having employess who are impared on the job, then claim it's an invasion of privacy when they want ensure their employees are drug free by testing them. :roll:
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Tequila Revenge wrote:
Skibo wrote:I am opposed to punitive damages in any case. They are nothing more than a grab for cash. They paid for the cleanup, they paid the fines associated with the crash, they paid damages to the state and locals that were affected. Enough is enough.

I think you may feel differently if you or your family was directly affected. Exxon did a p*** poor job cleaning up their mess. I know they are counting on people forgetting how things unfolded.
Erm...no I wouldn't. If my family had been directly affected, they would have received payment for actual damages. That is all they or I would have expected. If you ever hit me with your vehicle, I also would only expect you to cover my actual damages, I would not beat you down for pain and suffering so if you ever feel the need to crash a car, hit me, you may save some money.
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Dezdmona wrote:And how dare we hold them accountable for having employess who are impared on the job, then claim it's an invasion of privacy when they want ensure their employees are drug free by testing them. :roll:
in this case, there was probable cause for testing.
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RinglingRingling wrote:
Dezdmona wrote:And how dare we hold them accountable for having employess who are impared on the job, then claim it's an invasion of privacy when they want ensure their employees are drug free by testing them. :roll:
in this case, there was probable cause for testing.
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