Jimmy and his political views

Down around Biloxi · Post by **Down around Biloxi** » January 3, 2008 1:32 am

Wino you know wrote:I'll say this ONE MORE TIME, and, since you're in the news business, I'll assume you can read AND comprehend.

I'M CAUCUSING FOR OBAMA!

Just busting your chops.......Hope to see you at a caucus, and happy voting.

Wino you know · Post by **Wino you know** » January 3, 2008 1:58 am

Down around Biloxi wrote:
Wino you know wrote:I'll say this ONE MORE TIME, and, since you're in the news business, I'll assume you can read AND comprehend.

I'M CAUCUSING FOR OBAMA!
Just busting your chops.......Hope to see you at a caucus, and happy voting.

Okey dokey, Smokey.

indymiller24 · Post by **indymiller24** » January 3, 2008 2:42 am

... if we weren't all crazy, we would go insane ...

do you need anything else on mr. buffett's views? or does he describe the evolution of elections and politicians in a damn good way?

Catch&Release · Post by **Catch&Release** » January 3, 2008 6:17 am

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palmettopirate · Post by **palmettopirate** » January 3, 2008 6:39 am

"Stevie Wonder! Looking back on when I was a little nappy headed boy...Isn't she lovely...etc...etc. He was 20 minutes late getting to the concert...his daughter performed first, he went into a rant of "I believe this and I believe that about the war, and on and on with his liberal views...the audience got quiet and people began to leave, Raliegh is a very conservative city...we actually left an hour into the show, paid $100 for tickets too, but I will be darned if I am going to pay that kind of money to hear his political stance. I came to hear the music . He didn't finish a song, he would start and get the audience to participate and then just bailed out of it. Pretty religious too. I know he is getting up there in age, but I was very disappointed he used his concert to as a soap box for his political views. Don't push it on me. I am old enough to make my own decisions."

Amen. If you pay to go to a concert you should get a concert. If he wants to stump he should go to a stump meeting. And it's not about his views. It's about what I paid for.

BTW, I don't understand the polls. Does anyone else? Almost every Dem I talk to likes Joe Biden, who would be my choice. Years of experience and he's under the radar. I just don't get it.

Anybody notice how much Huckabee and Kevin Spacey look alike?
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Tiki Bar · Post by **Tiki Bar** » January 3, 2008 9:10 am

Jeez Louise!

By the way, I think it's humorous to see this appear on my Amazon.com banner at the top of the page!

conched · Post by **conched** » January 3, 2008 9:46 am

Tiki Bar wrote:Jeez Louise!

By the way, I think it's humorous to see this appear on my Amazon.com banner at the top of the page!

Kinda frightening, ain't it?!

mjeischen · Post by **mjeischen** » January 3, 2008 9:49 am

Catch&Release wrote:Garry,

I am guessing you're caucusing for Obama because it is one less vote for the "b****" which was your word for Hillary Clinton.

Gee, I stand corrected. You're trumping the fact that, despite the fact that 12 hours ago you described Senator Obama with the political insightfulness that he is "the black", he's your candidate. I'm sure on the 1st Tuesday in Nov. 2008, based on your fanatical right wing posts in the past that you will not be voting for Sen Obama if he wins the nomination.

And, Skibo, you tout your party's record of 70 years ago on civil rights issues. The modern Republican party does not even remotely resemble the Republican party that elected Lincoln.

And I am not backing down from my KKK comment. I think the KKK - a group that identifies people based on whether they area "black" a "hispanic" a "jew" or a "woman" (or to use Garry's word "b****") would relish having such like minded people as Garry and Skibo as their candidates. Their attitudes shown in their posts are statements classifying people based only on their races/gender.

DAMN THEM! DAMN THEM ALL TO HELL!

You may want to unknot your panties. Opinions are one of the many luxuries our country allows us to have. I don't necessarily agree with everything I read here and thats my right as well. Your posts are becoming personal attacks and that is where you may want to pull back a bit.

No one is arguing who is left or right of the issues - thats pretty obvious in most cases. You are merely stirring up an argument based on race. Garry may have been able to choose better words but the DEm card does present itself like a joke set up . . . . "A jew, A black, A b****, and a hispanic walk into a bar . . . ." <-- Thats how I read it and I laughed. I think you are taking something that isn't really there and running with it.

Garry has never been Politically Correct and I respect him for that because being PC is an absolute joke.

The KKK has killed people by race and religion. To associate someone with that is offensive. Has Garry or Skibo offered to burn anyone at the stake due to their race and religion. Bigot may have been a better word by definition though I still think you are off-base.

I am a democrat in Support of Edwards or Obama and I support this message.

Skibo · Post by **Skibo** » January 3, 2008 10:32 am

palmettopirate wrote: BTW, I don't understand the polls. Does anyone else? Almost every Dem I talk to likes Joe Biden, who would be my choice. Years of experience and he's under the radar. I just don't get it.

I don't get this either. I hear a lot of people that like him even Liberal talk show hosts. yet his poll numbers are miserable. If my man Huckleberry can come up from the ashes and become a front-runner why not Biden for the other party? - Not that I would vote for any senator for president but really he has more experience than any other candidate for the dems.

sonofabeach · Post by **sonofabeach** » January 3, 2008 10:43 am

Skibo wrote:
LIPH wrote:I don't know you from a hole in the wall, I've known Garry for almost 7 years. I've met him several times, hung out with him, tailgated with him. Does he lean to the right? Sure he does. Is he outspoken about how he feels on issues? Yes he is. Is he a racist? Hell no. I think you owe both Garry and Skibo an apology for the KKK comment.
Please no apology for me. I find it amusing that the liberals are the first to accuse republicans of being racist. Democrats quickly forget which party ended slavery. They also seem to forget which party passed the civil rights legislation of the 1960's. They also forget that it was the southern democrats that founded the KKK. They tend to ignore Robert Byrd's involvement in the KKK. They fought hard in an attempt to keep an honorable black man off the Supreme Court with lies. Through out history republican presidents have had more diverse staffs than the democrat presidents.

Some other tidbits.
-Every single African-American in Congress, House and Senate, until 1935 was a Republican.
-The first black governor in Louisiana was a republican (1872)
-Republicans led the fight for women’s voting rights -- and the Democrats, as a party, opposed civil rights for women. All of the leading suffragists -- including Susan B. Anthony, Lucretia Mott, and Elizabeth Cady Stanton -- were Republicans. In fact, Susan B. Anthony bragged, after leaving the voting booth, that she had voted for “the Republican ticket -- straight.”
-An early Republican leader, Salmon P. Chase, earned the nickname “Attorney General of Fugitive Slaves” for defending runaway slaves.
-Republican civil rights advocates also used the courts to advance a colorblind vision of America. Thus, it was Republican Justice Harlan who dissented from the “separate but equal” ruling of Plessy v. Ferguson (1896), declaring that “our Constitution is colorblind.” This became the rallying cry of the NAACP in its later battles to undo the segregation imposed on the South by the Democratic Party.
-During the 1920s, the Ku Klux Klan arose again as a national force. Republican presidents Warren Harding and Calvin Coolidge denounced KKK violence and supported a federal anti-lynch law, which passed the Republican House before repeatedly dying in the Democrat-controlled Senate.
-Continuing through the 1930s and 1940s, when Franklin Roosevelt refused to have pictures taken with blacks, the Republican Party called for desegregation of the military, antilynching laws, and the right to vote. Furthermore, while FDR sent Japanese Americans to internment camps, a conservative newspaper chain denounced this violation of civil rights, as did the influential black conservative George Schuyler.

Black and native American history are two of my greatest interests. You can call me racist if you wish, but if you look at my background, my charitable contributions, my history as an employer and my wife, you would have a very difficult time making that racist tag stick.

Take some time sometime and try to help improve the life of someone that doesn't have it as good as you, not by the hit and run method of just throwing money at them, but mentor a disadvantaged child, offer employment to someone that isn't from your pearly white neighborhood, purchase products made by minority owned enterprises. Some of your bitterness might go away.

none of that matters since the two parties basically switched views.
What does matter is what I see all of the time from my inside point of view and that is that almost everytime I hear the N-bomb it's from someone that is a republican, not everytime but maybe 95 percent of the time. Not hating though, some of my best friends are republicans, just stating facts. Keep in mind though that I do live in the south (north Florida) so that may play a factor. I guess there's a difference between southern "redneck" republicans and northern republicans?

Catch&Release · Post by **Catch&Release** » January 3, 2008 10:46 am

Biden runs for President every election. After he lost the nomination in '88 to Dukakis (due in part to allegations that Biden plagiarized his way through Syracuse Law, which Biden in part admitted) Biden has kind of been like background noise. He runs but without a serious chance of winning the nomination.

As to which party CURRENTLY wins the "more racist" label, Trent Lott is the one who fell from grace for praising Strom Thurmond's 1950's era push for segregation. Even Barry Goldwater "the conservatives conservative" argued that the issue of segregation should be left up to the States in his '64 Presidential campaign.

The states that voted for Goldwater in '64:

Only Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia, South Carolina and barely Arizona (50.4% to 49.5%) were in the Goldwater column.

Skibo · Post by **Skibo** » January 3, 2008 11:01 am

sonofabeach wrote: none of that matters since the two parties basically switched views.
What does matter is what I see all of the time from my inside point of view and that is that almost everytime I hear the N-bomb it's from someone that is a republican, not everytime but maybe 95 percent of the time. Not hating though, some of my best friends are republicans, just stating facts. Keep in mind though that I do live in the south (north Florida) so that may play a factor. I guess there's a difference between southern "redneck" republicans and northern republicans?

Just because you think something doesn't mean it is true. The two parties haven't switched views, you are just starting to believe the spin from the left win race hustlers. The two parties haven't changed a bit in their philosophies, the liberals believe it is ok to take from those that achieve to support those that don't. The conservatives believe that if you give the disadvantaged the opportunity to achieve they can be just as successful as the people the democrats want to overtax.

The democrats talk up a good show, but when the rubber hits the road, the republicans by far out perform the dems in civil rights and promotion of minorities in government even today.

Catch&Release · Post by **Catch&Release** » January 3, 2008 11:37 am

Skibo,

You're wrong. The Civil Rights Acts of the mid '60s which ended segregation were violently opposed by Republicans - including the GOP's presidential candidate at the time, Goldwater.

Skibo · Post by **Skibo** » January 3, 2008 11:53 am

Catch&Release wrote:Skibo,

You're wrong. The Civil Rights Acts of the mid '60s which ended segregation were violently opposed by Republicans - including the GOP's presidential candidate at the time, Goldwater.

Erm, unless you are using that new math, it appears that the Dems were more opposed then the Reps. Please check your facts before you spew liberal propaganda.

By party

The original House version:

* Democratic Party: 153-96 (64%-39%)
* Republican Party: 138-34 (80%-20%)

The Senate version:

* Democratic Party: 46-22 (68%-32%)
* Republican Party: 27-6 (82%-18%)

The Senate version, voted on by the House:

* Democratic Party: 153-91 (63%-37%)
* Republican Party: 136-35 (80%-20%)

By party and region

Note : "Southern", as used in this section, refers to members of Congress from the eleven states that made up the Confederate States of America in the American Civil War. "Northern" refers to members from the other 39 states, regardless of the geographic location of those states.

The original House version:

* Southern Democrats: 7-87 (7%-93%)
* Southern Republicans: 0-10 (0%-100%)

* Northern Democrats: 145-9 (94%-6%)
* Northern Republicans: 138-24 (85%-15%)

The Senate version:

* Southern Democrats: 1-20 (5%-95%)
* Southern Republicans: 0-1 (0%-100%)
* Northern Democrats: 45-1 (98%-2%) (only Senator Robert Byrd of West Virginia opposed the measure)

* Northern Republicans: 27-5 (84%-16%)

Wino you know · Post by **Wino you know** » January 3, 2008 12:02 pm

Catch&Release wrote:Skibo,

You're wrong. The Civil Rights Acts of the mid '60s which ended segregation were violently opposed by DEMOCRATS - including the father of the DEMS presidential candidate of 2000, AL GORE SR.

Fixed it for you.

And quit trying to re-write history.

TRIVIA QUESTION:
WHO is the only member of the U.S. Senate who was once the head of a "KKK" chapter AND used the "N" word on the floor of the U.S. Senate?
HINT-it wasn't Trent Lott.

mjeischen · Post by **mjeischen** » January 3, 2008 12:02 pm

Are those figures as accurate as you can get!?
What was congress wearing the days those votes were taken!?

Tequila Revenge · Post by **Tequila Revenge** » January 3, 2008 12:07 pm

* my best Steven Colbert voice*

Let's not confuse good opinions with facts!

Migration Michelle · Post by **Migration Michelle** » January 3, 2008 5:18 pm

WOW!!!!! I'm glad I missed the last two days here! This looks like a hot one....

sonofabeach · Post by **sonofabeach** » January 3, 2008 5:28 pm

Migration Michelle wrote:WOW!!!!! I'm glad I missed the last two days here! This looks like a hot one....

Not so much The Landshark Lager Wars are better

Migration Michelle · Post by **Migration Michelle** » January 3, 2008 5:37 pm

sonofabeach wrote:
Migration Michelle wrote:WOW!!!!! I'm glad I missed the last two days here! This looks like a hot one....
Not so much The Landshark Lager Wars are better

Now THAT'S a battle I like!!!