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Posted: October 28, 2008 12:39 pm
by mikemck
It's official: no game tonight.

Posted: October 28, 2008 12:50 pm
by chippewa
mikemck wrote:It's official: no game tonight.
I'm not doubting it, but who's reporting that? It's not on mlb.com or espn yet.

Posted: October 28, 2008 12:53 pm
by mikemck
Anthony Gargano broke the story on WIP this morning. MLB is going to make the announcement at 2:00.

Scratch that. Selig has just made the announcement.

Posted: October 28, 2008 1:24 pm
by fabduo
mikemck wrote:
Lightning Bolt wrote:Sounds like the classic attitude that gives Philly fans the reputation for being morons.
Play the game in pouring rain so you can save on the parking fees???? ..so Hamels can go 5-0??? c'mon...
Actually, I never said they should have kept playing. I don't believe they should have played the game at all.
weather happens... deal with it.
Perhaps you should listen to what we're saying before you call us morons. Nobody is complaining about the weather. We're complaining about Selig and the officials' reaction to the weather and their incompetence in handling the whole affair.
It was not raining when the game started -so why do you believe that it should have not been played at all???

Posted: October 28, 2008 1:29 pm
by mikemck
fabduo wrote:It was not raining when the game started -so why do you believe that it should have not been played at all???
Because they knew before the game that inclement weather would become an issue as the game went on.

Each team has a meteorologist who's job it is to inform the team, the officials and MLB about the weather.

In Philly, it's a guy by the name of Tom Lamaine. Lamaine was on the morning show of our local sports station this morning explaining that not just one, but several meteorologists advised them not to play the game.

In his press conference last night, Selig blamed the meteorologists for telling him that there would be only 1/10 of an inch but John Bolaris, another meteorologist advising them stated that that wasn't what Selig was told at all.

The 1/10 of an inch only pertained to one small window of the over all forecast.

Posted: October 28, 2008 3:42 pm
by BottleofRum
mikemck wrote:I just don't understand why this stuff always, always, always happens to us.

We've been waiting 28 years for this and now they've ruined it. Even if we win, it's not going to be the same. There will always be an asterisk next to it.

I wanted so badly to see us win at home because I know from a source close to the team that the players had something special they were going to do for the fans as a thank you when they won, but now I feel like it would almost be better to go back to that stupid dome so that we can win a real nine inning game, instead of a three inning mockery.

I agree with Al Morganti. If the Phillies lose tonight, there is no way Selig gets out of this town alive.

What's worse, the people who are going back tonight have to pay another $25 dollars to park again. I can't believe that the city won't waive the parking fee. That's just ridiculous.

Between the Phillies, the Eagles, the Flyers, and now the news that we're losing our beloved Phantoms at the end of this season, I really have to wonder if I died without realizing it and am now in sports fan Hell.

The one I feel the most sorry for is Cole Hamels. He was having an unbelievable World Series and was on a pace to put himself on the Phillies Mt Rushmore with Carlton, Roberts, Bunning, and Schilling.

He had the opportunity to be the first pitcher in history to go 5-0 in the post season and now that's been taken away from him.

If the Phillies lose tonight, I hope there's a riot at that stadium.

I think Philly should blame all this on two of their favorite whipping boys, Terry Francona and JD Drew. Had the Francona led AL team not won the the all star game with game MVP JD Drew games 3-4-5 would have been in TB. ....

wait until nest season when the WS is played in early November.... :lol:

Posted: October 28, 2008 3:57 pm
by Frank4
This is starting to feel like the season that would not end...and I love baseball. Lost interest after the Cubs got swept out by the Dodgers.

Posted: October 28, 2008 5:12 pm
by PA PAR8 HED
I don't think Wednesday night will be much better.

Posted: October 28, 2008 5:42 pm
by CaptainP
Ah.....so what I'm getting is that it is Selig's fault that it rained?

(I'm a Rays fan, but if I wasn't, the following statement would still hold true)

Now I REALLY hope the Phillies lose this series. The way the fans are whining that the rain delay is costing them....YOU SOUND LIKE CUBS FANS WITH YOUR STOOPID EXCUSES!***

I agree with Lightning Bolt. Weather happens. Deal with it.





***In 2003, the Cubs were a few outs away from winning the NLCS. Then, someone hit a FOUL BALL that their left fielder did not catch. Suddenly, they looked like a team that had a convenient excuse to play like crap and return to their long tradition of losing. And that is just what they did.

Now the Phillies have that excuse, too. Rain. Now they can start losing again, and have their excuse for it.

I hope it happens. But I'm also a Rays fan.

Posted: October 28, 2008 5:44 pm
by CaptainP
mikemck wrote:
Each team has a meteorologist who's job it is to inform the team, the officials and MLB about the weather.

In Philly, it's a guy by the name of Tom Lamaine. Lamaine was on the morning show of our local sports station this morning explaining that not just one, but several meteorologists advised them not to play the game.
If each team has ONE, why would they need SEVERAL guys to make that call? Don't they trust Lamaine?




I love contradictory statements. Heeheeheehee.

Posted: October 28, 2008 5:47 pm
by CaptainP
chippewa wrote: [Selig] he just completed the trifecta!

Ruined the All-Star game (tie game)
Ruined spring training (world baseball classic)
Ruined the World Series (see last night, I'm blaming him for the way it was handled and give me a minute and I'll pin the rain on him, too)
All Star game: NOT HIS FAULT....blame Brenly and Torre for using up all of their damn players before the 10th inning. Then when Padilla gets hurt, Brenly had nobody left to run out there.

Spring Training: I'll give you that one, but a lot of people really liked that.

World Series: See my previous post.

Posted: October 28, 2008 5:55 pm
by chippewa
CaptainP wrote:
mikemck wrote:
Each team has a meteorologist who's job it is to inform the team, the officials and MLB about the weather.

In Philly, it's a guy by the name of Tom Lamaine. Lamaine was on the morning show of our local sports station this morning explaining that not just one, but several meteorologists advised them not to play the game.
If each team has ONE, why would they need SEVERAL guys to make that call? Don't they trust Lamaine?




I love contradictory statements. Heeheeheehee.
John McCain's achy knee says it's going to rain on Wednesday. That's good enough for me. Plus, I just washed my car.

All-star game: yeah, the managers used up all the players and I'm sure were looking for a way out. But Selig didn't have to give it to them. A.J. Pierzynski could've come in and pitched -- and blown out his shoulder. Who wouldn't want to see that? :lol:

Posted: October 28, 2008 6:03 pm
by CaptainP
chippewa wrote:
CaptainP wrote:
mikemck wrote:
Each team has a meteorologist who's job it is to inform the team, the officials and MLB about the weather.

In Philly, it's a guy by the name of Tom Lamaine. Lamaine was on the morning show of our local sports station this morning explaining that not just one, but several meteorologists advised them not to play the game.
If each team has ONE, why would they need SEVERAL guys to make that call? Don't they trust Lamaine?




I love contradictory statements. Heeheeheehee.
John McCain's achy knee says it's going to rain on Wednesday. That's good enough for me. Plus, I just washed my car.

All-star game: yeah, the managers used up all the players and I'm sure were looking for a way out. But Selig didn't have to give it to them. A.J. Pierzynski could've come in and pitched -- and blown out his shoulder. Who wouldn't want to see that? :lol:
Actually, most of the players that had been replaced had left the stadium already, so he didn't even have the option of letting them put players back in the game that had been replaced (Heck, Barry Bonds appeared on the tonight show about 20 minutes after the game ended...IN STUDIO!). Even if he did, putting a pitcher back in almost guarantees an injury. Then people would have ripped on Selig for that. He was in a no-win situation. NOT HIS FAULT.

Posted: October 28, 2008 8:34 pm
by mikemck
CaptainP wrote:Ah.....so what I'm getting is that it is Selig's fault that it rained?

(I'm a Rays fan, but if I wasn't, the following statement would still hold true)

Now I REALLY hope the Phillies lose this series. The way the fans are whining that the rain delay is costing them....YOU SOUND LIKE CUBS FANS WITH YOUR STOOPID EXCUSES!***

I agree with Lightning Bolt. Weather happens. Deal with it.





***In 2003, the Cubs were a few outs away from winning the NLCS. Then, someone hit a FOUL BALL that their left fielder did not catch. Suddenly, they looked like a team that had a convenient excuse to play like crap and return to their long tradition of losing. And that is just what they did.

Now the Phillies have that excuse, too. Rain. Now they can start losing again, and have their excuse for it.

I hope it happens. But I'm also a Rays fan.
This coming from somebody who's team plays in a circus tent and didn't even support the team until they made the playoffs.

Posted: October 28, 2008 8:56 pm
by rumdrinks
mikemck wrote:It's official: no game tonight.
All I can say is "Thank God". I was able to pick up tickets for the conclusion of Game 5, and I really didn't want to sit thru 45 MPH winds and 25 degree windchill. Granted Wednesday nite might not be great baseball weather either, but it should be a little better than tonite.

GO PHILLIES

Posted: October 28, 2008 10:31 pm
by chippewa
rumdrinks wrote:
mikemck wrote:It's official: no game tonight.
All I can say is "Thank God". I was able to pick up tickets for the conclusion of Game 5, and I really didn't want to sit thru 45 MPH winds and 25 degree windchill. Granted Wednesday nite might not be great baseball weather either, but it should be a little better than tonite.

GO PHILLIES
Is that a separate (new) ticket, or how are they handling that?

Saw today that as far as Vegas sports books are concerned, the Phils won game 5, 2-1. :D
It was a rule almost as old as baseball itself, and if it doesn't apply in Philadelphia, it still applies in Las Vegas. Sports books in the gambling capital recognized the Phillies as the winners of Monday's World Series Game 5, 2-1 over the Rays...
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Posted: October 28, 2008 10:32 pm
by CaptainP
mikemck wrote:
CaptainP wrote:Ah.....so what I'm getting is that it is Selig's fault that it rained?

(I'm a Rays fan, but if I wasn't, the following statement would still hold true)

Now I REALLY hope the Phillies lose this series. The way the fans are whining that the rain delay is costing them....YOU SOUND LIKE CUBS FANS WITH YOUR STOOPID EXCUSES!***

I agree with Lightning Bolt. Weather happens. Deal with it.





***In 2003, the Cubs were a few outs away from winning the NLCS. Then, someone hit a FOUL BALL that their left fielder did not catch. Suddenly, they looked like a team that had a convenient excuse to play like crap and return to their long tradition of losing. And that is just what they did.

Now the Phillies have that excuse, too. Rain. Now they can start losing again, and have their excuse for it.

I hope it happens. But I'm also a Rays fan.
This coming from somebody who...{}...didn't even support the team until they made the playoffs.
Um...I've been a very vocal fan of the Rays for years. Read back through the BN Baseball threads for YEARS. In fact, the hat I wear on a day-to-day basis is a Rays 2002 hat.

Heck, even Jon will back me up on that one!

Posted: October 28, 2008 10:35 pm
by CaptainP
mikemck wrote:
CaptainP wrote:Ah.....so what I'm getting is that it is Selig's fault that it rained?

(I'm a Rays fan, but if I wasn't, the following statement would still hold true)

Now I REALLY hope the Phillies lose this series. The way the fans are whining that the rain delay is costing them....YOU SOUND LIKE CUBS FANS WITH YOUR STOOPID EXCUSES!***

I agree with Lightning Bolt. Weather happens. Deal with it.





***In 2003, the Cubs were a few outs away from winning the NLCS. Then, someone hit a FOUL BALL that their left fielder did not catch. Suddenly, they looked like a team that had a convenient excuse to play like crap and return to their long tradition of losing. And that is just what they did.

Now the Phillies have that excuse, too. Rain. Now they can start losing again, and have their excuse for it.

I hope it happens. But I'm also a Rays fan.
This coming from somebody who's team plays in a circus tent ...
Yeah, I'm sure you were talking all those years that the Phillies were playing on the damp cement at the Vet. Might have been the worst ballpark in baseball back before they moved out.

Posted: October 28, 2008 10:37 pm
by CaptainP
By the way, Mike....my rant on Phillies fans was not directed at you personally. I listen to a lot of Sports radio, and every single Phillies fan that called has sounded like an idiot today. It made me want them to lose.

(Again, I already wanted them to lose, but if I was neutral, it would have sealed the deal...)

Posted: October 28, 2008 10:54 pm
by Migration Michelle
mikemck wrote:
CaptainP wrote:Ah.....so what I'm getting is that it is Selig's fault that it rained?

(I'm a Rays fan, but if I wasn't, the following statement would still hold true)

Now I REALLY hope the Phillies lose this series. The way the fans are whining that the rain delay is costing them....YOU SOUND LIKE CUBS FANS WITH YOUR STOOPID EXCUSES!***

I agree with Lightning Bolt. Weather happens. Deal with it.





***In 2003, the Cubs were a few outs away from winning the NLCS. Then, someone hit a FOUL BALL that their left fielder did not catch. Suddenly, they looked like a team that had a convenient excuse to play like crap and return to their long tradition of losing. And that is just what they did.

Now the Phillies have that excuse, too. Rain. Now they can start losing again, and have their excuse for it.

I hope it happens. But I'm also a Rays fan.
This coming from somebody who's team plays in a circus tent and didn't even support the team until they made the playoffs.
To whom are you directing this comment? I have had Rays seasons tickets for the past three years...from worst to first!! There are people here who support them through thick and thin.

This town was not raised with baseball like Philly, Chicago, NY, Boston, Baltimore, etc. Our team is fairly new in comparison. It is not fair to make comments that we do not support our team.

I'm sorry that you are upset that the game was delayed. Perhaps you need a little sunshine? :D