Brokers should be hog tied and beat!

CaptainRRK · Post by **CaptainRRK** » February 26, 2008 2:52 pm

How is it that Alpine tickets have not even gone on sale yet and they are posted on Ebay and other like sites for 3x's thier value?!! I know there are people that have no soul and have no problem screwing people for a living, but come on. When is enough enough? This should come as no surprise to me. Every year I am unable to get tickets when they go on sale to the public. And I would have no problem at all if the tickets were being sold out to people that were GOING to the show. But thier not, they are being sold to these scum suckers that will be reselling them for 3 to 4x's thier face value. And they continue to raise those prices every year! While they are laughing all the way to the bank on my dollar, I have to scrap up enough to pay them $200 a ticket for lawn.

The crap of it is, it's not going to stop. We want the tickets, and we can talk a big game. But when all our other options are exusted, we've asked co-workers, business associates, people that we can beat up, then we will finally break down and pay the outrageous dollars the dirt bags are asking.

If anyone has any thoughts on this or can offer any advise on how to screw the brokers, please let us know. I think we would all be more than interested.

Post by **SMLCHNG** » February 26, 2008 3:02 pm

Any person (you, me, anyone) can have season tickets to a venue. Their seats are the same no matter what the event is. (like season tickets for pro sports) Some events they choose not to attend and sell them to whoever they want to, most often to make a buck or two or ten.

z-man · Post by **z-man** » February 26, 2008 3:02 pm

CaptainRRK wrote:How is it that Alpine tickets have not even gone on sale yet and they are posted on Ebay and other like sites for 3x's thier value?!! I know there are people that have no soul and have no problem screwing people for a living, but come on. When is enough enough? This should come as no surprise to me. Every year I am unable to get tickets when they go on sale to the public. And I would have no problem at all if the tickets were being sold out to people that were GOING to the show. But thier not, they are being sold to these scum suckers that will be reselling them for 3 to 4x's thier face value. And they continue to raise those prices every year! While they are laughing all the way to the bank on my dollar, I have to scrap up enough to pay them $200 a ticket for lawn.

The crap of it is, it's not going to stop. We want the tickets, and we can talk a big game. But when all our other options are exusted, we've asked co-workers, business associates, people that we can beat up, then we will finally break down and pay the outrageous dollars the dirt bags are asking.

If anyone has any thoughts on this or can offer any advise on how to screw the brokers, please let us know. I think we would all be more than interested.

just go to the venue the day of the concert, and enjoy the tailgating.

There are ALWAYS tickets available in the lots, usually at or below face value once sellers are convinced you are buying for yourself and not to resell at a markup.

2006 at Alpine scalpers were selling lawn seats for $10 just before the show started, just so they could get something for them.

surfpirate · Post by **surfpirate** » February 26, 2008 3:21 pm

I own an original copy of Down To Earth on Barnaby Records. Only a few hundred of these exist, but apparently many, many people would like to own this album. It's value at the original point of sale was less than $5. Everyone involved in the original sale made the money they were entitled to make .... Jimmy Buffett, Barnaby Records, the record store and right on down the line. On a secondary market, I am able to sell it if I choose to the highest bidder on eBay. Perfectly legal and most people would agree that is a fair thing.

But if I were to apply those same principles and logic to a concert ticket resale on a legal secondary market, many people would freak out over the "morality" of the transaction. This strikes me as a double standard.

Talk amongst yourselves.

~~~~~~ surfpirate

CaptainRRK · Post by **CaptainRRK** » February 26, 2008 3:22 pm

I understand that there are some people that have season tickets. But to me that doesn't make it right that brokers are allowed to charge your first born.

CaptainRRK · Post by **CaptainRRK** » February 26, 2008 3:30 pm

[quote="surfpirate"]I own an original copy of Down To Earth on Barnaby Records. Only a few hundred of these exist, but apparently many, many people would like to own this album. It's value at the original point of sale was less than $5. Everyone involved in the original sale made the money they were entitled to make .... Jimmy Buffett, Barnaby Records, the record store and right on down the line. On a secondary market, I am able to sell it if I choose to the highest bidder on eBay. Perfectly legal and most people would agree that is a fair thing.

But if I were to apply those same principles and logic to a concert ticket resale on a legal secondary market, many people would freak out over the "morality" of the transaction. This strikes me as a double standard.

Talk amongst yourselves.

You're absolutly right. You can sell that record for whatever you like, assuming the market is there. And yes, for a Buffett concert the market is definatly there. However, The oppertunity for the everyday fan is not there. The tickets are sold out within minutes of the sale opening. If you had bought 250 of those 300 records and then sold them for profit that would be just as wrong. That is what's happening with the brokers. Some how, some way they are able to get tickets in mass and leave the precious few left to be fought over.

RinglingRingling · Post by **RinglingRingling** » February 26, 2008 3:40 pm

CaptainRRK wrote:How is it that Alpine tickets have not even gone on sale yet and they are posted on Ebay and other like sites for 3x's thier value?!! I know there are people that have no soul and have no problem screwing people for a living, but come on. When is enough enough? This should come as no surprise to me. Every year I am unable to get tickets when they go on sale to the public. And I would have no problem at all if the tickets were being sold out to people that were GOING to the show. But thier not, they are being sold to these scum suckers that will be reselling them for 3 to 4x's thier face value. And they continue to raise those prices every year! While they are laughing all the way to the bank on my dollar, I have to scrap up enough to pay them $200 a ticket for lawn.

The crap of it is, it's not going to stop. We want the tickets, and we can talk a big game. But when all our other options are exusted, we've asked co-workers, business associates, people that we can beat up, then we will finally break down and pay the outrageous dollars the dirt bags are asking.

If anyone has any thoughts on this or can offer any advise on how to screw the brokers, please let us know. I think we would all be more than interested.

and thus it begins...

z-man · Post by **z-man** » February 26, 2008 3:41 pm

RinglingRingling wrote:
CaptainRRK wrote:How is it that Alpine tickets have not even gone on sale yet and they are posted on Ebay and other like sites for 3x's thier value?!! I know there are people that have no soul and have no problem screwing people for a living, but come on. When is enough enough? This should come as no surprise to me. Every year I am unable to get tickets when they go on sale to the public. And I would have no problem at all if the tickets were being sold out to people that were GOING to the show. But thier not, they are being sold to these scum suckers that will be reselling them for 3 to 4x's thier face value. And they continue to raise those prices every year! While they are laughing all the way to the bank on my dollar, I have to scrap up enough to pay them $200 a ticket for lawn.

The crap of it is, it's not going to stop. We want the tickets, and we can talk a big game. But when all our other options are exusted, we've asked co-workers, business associates, people that we can beat up, then we will finally break down and pay the outrageous dollars the dirt bags are asking.

If anyone has any thoughts on this or can offer any advise on how to screw the brokers, please let us know. I think we would all be more than interested.
and thus it begins...

again...

Capt.Flock · Post by **Capt.Flock** » February 26, 2008 3:43 pm

popcorn any one

RinglingRingling · Post by **RinglingRingling** » February 26, 2008 3:44 pm

z-man wrote:
RinglingRingling wrote:
CaptainRRK wrote:How is it that Alpine tickets have not even gone on sale yet and they are posted on Ebay and other like sites for 3x's thier value?!! I know there are people that have no soul and have no problem screwing people for a living, but come on. When is enough enough? This should come as no surprise to me. Every year I am unable to get tickets when they go on sale to the public. And I would have no problem at all if the tickets were being sold out to people that were GOING to the show. But thier not, they are being sold to these scum suckers that will be reselling them for 3 to 4x's thier face value. And they continue to raise those prices every year! While they are laughing all the way to the bank on my dollar, I have to scrap up enough to pay them $200 a ticket for lawn.

The crap of it is, it's not going to stop. We want the tickets, and we can talk a big game. But when all our other options are exusted, we've asked co-workers, business associates, people that we can beat up, then we will finally break down and pay the outrageous dollars the dirt bags are asking.

If anyone has any thoughts on this or can offer any advise on how to screw the brokers, please let us know. I think we would all be more than interested.
and thus it begins...
again...

just as the swallows return to Capistrano.. so does the first announcement of tour dates herald the arrival of the "$%*&%)($*&%)*($ Ticketba$tard" threads.. for every venue.

LIPH · Post by **LIPH** » February 26, 2008 3:55 pm

CaptainRRK wrote:The oppertunity for the everyday fan is not there. The tickets are sold out within minutes of the sale opening.

I'm an every day fan. I've been to about 45 Buffett shows in the last 4 years. Got tickets to every one of them (except one where I was comped) from ticketmaster the day they went on sale. Never had a problem getting tickets, never paid a scalper or a broker. I don't think I'm unusually lucky. If I was I'd get laid more often.

popcornjack · Post by **popcornjack** » February 26, 2008 3:58 pm

Capt.Flock wrote:popcorn any one

You called?

UpstateNYPH · Post by **UpstateNYPH** » February 26, 2008 4:32 pm

LIPH wrote:
CaptainRRK wrote:The oppertunity for the everyday fan is not there. The tickets are sold out within minutes of the sale opening.
I'm an every day fan. I've been to about 45 Buffett shows in the last 4 years. Got tickets to every one of them (except one where I was comped) from ticketmaster the day they went on sale. Never had a problem getting tickets, never paid a scalper or a broker. I don't think I'm unusually lucky. If I was I'd get laid more often.

Yup, Larry and I post basically the same thing in every one of these broker threads (minus his last line

)

But seriously, I want to know what the heck you guys are doing. Every on sale date I have gotten a ticket, and I am a regular guy. Are you logging on too late, giving up too early? i just dont understand it and it drives me nuts to hear the same, "Well we couldnt get tickets from Ticketmaster again this year because of the scalpers"

If i have gotten a ticket every on sale (and that is a lot of them), then I cant honestly believe that the people who are saying that the brokers got all the tickets and they couldnt get any this year, are people who are putting forth the effort. Even in the unlikely event you cant get a ticket on ticketmaster, they ALWAYS release tickets for weeks and weeks up until the day of the show. If that doesnt work, there is ebay if that suits your taste (and yes I have bought off ebay for WAY less than face value), and then there are the lots before the show, where tons of people try to get rid of tix.

I just CANNOT understand why people say that

Now give me some popcorn

SchoolGirlHeart · Post by **SchoolGirlHeart** » February 26, 2008 7:08 pm

UpstateNYPH wrote:
LIPH wrote:
CaptainRRK wrote:The oppertunity for the everyday fan is not there. The tickets are sold out within minutes of the sale opening.
I'm an every day fan. I've been to about 45 Buffett shows in the last 4 years. Got tickets to every one of them (except one where I was comped) from ticketmaster the day they went on sale. Never had a problem getting tickets, never paid a scalper or a broker. I don't think I'm unusually lucky. If I was I'd get laid more often.
Yup, Larry and I post basically the same thing in every one of these broker threads (minus his last line )

But seriously, I want to know what the heck you guys are doing. Every on sale date I have gotten a ticket, and I am a regular guy. Are you logging on too late, giving up too early? i just dont understand it and it drives me nuts to hear the same, "Well we couldnt get tickets from Ticketmaster again this year because of the scalpers"

If i have gotten a ticket every on sale (and that is a lot of them), then I cant honestly believe that the people who are saying that the brokers got all the tickets and they couldnt get any this year, are people who are putting forth the effort. Even in the unlikely event you cant get a ticket on ticketmaster, they ALWAYS release tickets for weeks and weeks up until the day of the show. If that doesnt work, there is ebay if that suits your taste (and yes I have bought off ebay for WAY less than face value), and then there are the lots before the show, where tons of people try to get rid of tix.

I just CANNOT understand why people say that

Now give me some popcorn

I'd add one thing, however, to Larry's and Mike's comments: it *is* a whole lot easier to score one ticket than 4, 3, or even 2.

moog · Post by **moog** » February 27, 2008 1:13 pm

You can get even by reporting the brokers to the IRS. Let them open the books. Or go after RMG Technologies that sells software that bypasses the password on Ticketmaster. Ironically, it's the soccer moms making the stink:

http://www.myfoxny.com/myfox/

http://www.myfoxny.com/myfox/pages/Home ... geId=1.1.1

I do believe many folks can get better then lawn at 10 am if brokers weren't allowed to resell above face value. Let's face it, it's horse crap one is shut out at 10:01. As for me I have only missed one tour since 1991. (The supply and demand excuse is phoney. Especially if one creates the demand by buying it all up. )

However, ranting here will not solve anything.

I would rather see the venue box office sell tickets to make the brokers wait online like the rest of us. Get rid of online and phone sales.

CaptainRRK · Post by **CaptainRRK** » February 27, 2008 1:45 pm

moog wrote:You can get even by reporting the brokers to the IRS. Let them open the books. Or go after RMG that sells technology that bypasses the password on Ticketmaster. Ironically, it's the soccer moms making the stink:

http://www.myfoxny.com/myfox/

http://www.myfoxny.com/myfox/pages/Home ... geId=1.1.1

I do believe many folks can get better then lawn at 10 am if brokers weren't allowed to resell above face value. Let's face it, it's horse crap one is shut out at 10:01. As for me I have only missed one tour since 1991.

However, ranting here will not solve anything.

I would rather see the venue box office sell tickets to make the brokers wait online like the rest of us. Get rid of online and phone sales.

I completly agree with doing away with the phone sales and internet sales. Sure they will still pay people to do that for them but it would certainly cut down on them.

citcat · Post by **citcat** » February 27, 2008 2:49 pm

I'll have some of that popcorn, Jack. With butter.

Maybe an ice cold beer and a Ding Dong for desert too.

moog · Post by **moog** » February 28, 2008 12:33 am

Folks, if a topic turns you off, you don't have go in and eat popcorn. Scroll by. For crying out loud, you are just as bad as the repeat topics and just as rude.

tryin' to reason · Post by **tryin' to reason** » February 28, 2008 10:58 pm

I guess I'm just terribly unlucky with Ticketbas....

Must be me. At least now I know.

NDJollyMon · Post by **NDJollyMon** » February 29, 2008 10:57 pm

Most times, I've gotten through online and gotten Buffett tickets. The one time I didn't...was for the Alpine show as well.

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