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Tests on dead bees showed that 99% of those examined had a build-up of clothianidin. The chemical, produced by Bayer CropScience, a subsidiary of the German chemical giant Bayer, is sold in Europe under the trade name Poncho. It was applied to the seeds of sweetcorn planted along the Rhine this spring. The seeds are treated in advance of being planted or are sprayed while in the field.

somthing is getting the Bees here too..

I may talk my Dad into getting a few hives..again...

ragtopW wrote:somthing is getting the Bees here too..

I may talk my Dad into getting a few hives..again...

Here it's mostly viruses....

ragtopW wrote:somthing is getting the Bees here too..

I may talk my Dad into getting a few hives..again...

"Clothianidin is a non-selective poison. According to the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency's fact sheet 'clothianidin is highly toxic to honey bees.' Seeds are treated with clothianidin in advance or sprayed with it while in the field, and the insecticide can also be blown onto other crops. The chemical is often sprayed on corn fields during the spring planting to create a protective film on cornfields. "

I don't think the current administration would make a decision that would cost business one cent, despite the long term affect.

Wanna bet this crap was presented as a way to boost crop yield for corn growers that supply corn for ethanol?

The "Tupelo Honey Festival" was just last weekend , next to here in Wewahitchka.....They had all kinds of information on the bees disappearing and why.....and why the price of Honey has gone up so much....

They said it's cell phones. Seriously....They said the radiation given off by cell phones messes with the bees navigation systems and they can't find their way back to their hives.... Go figure.


Here's a link to Wewa...(we don't say the whole name...we're too lazy.. ) and the honey from there...

http://blogcritics.org/archives/2007/03/30/065937.php

Conolulu wrote:The "Tupelo Honey Festival" was just last weekend , next to here in Wewahitchka.....They had all kinds of information on the bees disappearing and why.....and why the price of Honey has gone up so much....

They said it's cell phones. Seriously....They said the radiation given off by cell phones messes with the bees navigation systems and they can't find their way back to their hives.... Go figure.


Here's a link to Wewa...(we don't say the whole name...we're too lazy.. ) and the honey from there...

http://blogcritics.org/archives/2007/03/30/065937.php

Saw something about EMI fields too Not good news for those animals up the food chain.

I didn't know some of this... More about Wewa and beekeeping...

Wewahitchka is the site of one of Florida's largest beekeeping operations, the Lanier family, whose three-generation business was the host and consultant for the filming of Ulee's Gold, a movie starring Peter Fonda about a beekeeper whose "gold" is tupelo honey. The Rish family are the oldest known beekeeping family in the area, documenting their claim back to 1880's. Many of the local beekeepers can trace their ancestry to the native American Indians that lived in the area. Mr. Tom Wynn, a Local historian, filmed and produced a DVD documentary called, "Tupelo Honey & The Amazing World of Beekeeping" documenting the processes of harvesting Tupelo Honey as well as recording the local history of Beekeeping in the area. The film features interviews with aged and wise Beekeepers of the swamps as well as an interview with a local Creek Indian Chief.

This premium honey which is extracted and bottled by the Lanier and Rish families and other beekeepers is produced by placing beehive's, known by the beekeepers as "Bee Boxes" on the swamps along the Apalachicola River and other area rivers. In some areas the bees are placed on platforms and rafts to keep them above potential floods. Prior to the tupelo bloom, all earlier season honeys are stripped from the bees to avoid contamination with lesser grades produced earlier. Likewise, as soon as bloom is finished, the honey must be removed quickly before the bees have a chance to add other types of nectar.

Wewahitchka also has an annual two day Tupelo Honey festival in May.

just a little more fodder

http://www.theenvironmentalblog.org/200 ... icide.html

"Available data indicate that clothianidin on corn and canola should result in minimal acute toxic risk to birds. However, assessments show that exposure to treated seeds through ingestion may result in chronic toxic risk to non-endangered and endangered small birds (e.g., songbirds) and acute/chronic toxicity risk to non-endangered and endangered mammals. Clothianidin has the potential for toxic chronic exposure to honey bees, as well as other nontarget pollinators, through the translocation of clothianidin residues in nectar and pollen..In honey bees, the effects of this toxic chronic exposure may include lethal and/or sub-lethal effects in the larvae and reproductive effects in the queen."


Up until 2 weeks ago I was a bee-keeeper in Ontario. North shore of Lake Ontario.
C.C.D. appears to be the predonminate culprit in the loss of all my colonies.

A thought to ponder for those of you who don't have any exposure to the bee business. But honey prices have been decimated by dumping into the N.A. market mostly from China.
So the other option has been pollination contracts.
The dollars in can not justify the losses. So the problem is going to be bigger than just the current population losses. What incentive do small farmers like myself have to spend the money to re-invest when the losses are ever present?

am A 7th generation beekeeper in California and have been fighting the Government here to ban or at least restrict Imidocloprid since 2003. Last year I lost 800 hives out of 1000 to what I believe is Bayers Neonicatoid insecticide.
I think they are going to find it very difficult to grow food without honeybees.

Beekeepers in East Texas have lost about 85% of their hives this year. Last article we did on them, A&M hadn't figured out why they were just disappearing ... they're all stumped.

Tequila Revenge wrote:just a little more fodder

http://www.theenvironmentalblog.org/200 ... icide.html

"Available data indicate that clothianidin on corn and canola should result in minimal acute toxic risk to birds. However, assessments show that exposure to treated seeds through ingestion may result in chronic toxic risk to non-endangered and endangered small birds (e.g., songbirds) and acute/chronic toxicity risk to non-endangered and endangered mammals. Clothianidin has the potential for toxic chronic exposure to honey bees, as well as other nontarget pollinators, through the translocation of clothianidin residues in nectar and pollen..In honey bees, the effects of this toxic chronic exposure may include lethal and/or sub-lethal effects in the larvae and reproductive effects in the queen."


Up until 2 weeks ago I was a bee-keeeper in Ontario. North shore of Lake Ontario.
C.C.D. appears to be the predonminate culprit in the loss of all my colonies.

A thought to ponder for those of you who don't have any exposure to the bee business. But honey prices have been decimated by dumping into the N.A. market mostly from China.
So the other option has been pollination contracts.
The dollars in can not justify the losses. So the problem is going to be bigger than just the current population losses. What incentive do small farmers like myself have to spend the money to re-invest when the losses are ever present?

am A 7th generation beekeeper in California and have been fighting the Government here to ban or at least restrict Imidocloprid since 2003. Last year I lost 800 hives out of 1000 to what I believe is Bayers Neonicatoid insecticide.
I think they are going to find it very difficult to grow food without honeybees.

This is very scary sh*t.......

East Texas Parrothead wrote:Beekeepers in East Texas have lost about 85% of their hives this year. Last article we did on them, A&M hadn't figured out why they were just disappearing ... they're all stumped.

last I saw (yeah I looked after we spoke) was 15%

SMLCHNG wrote: I HATE bees. But understand why they're good for many reasons.

Shun the non-believer..... shuuunnnnnnnnnnnnn

oh, crap... damn that charlie the unicorn

SchoolGirlHeart wrote:

Tequila Revenge wrote:just a little more fodder

http://www.theenvironmentalblog.org/200 ... icide.html

"Available data indicate that clothianidin on corn and canola should result in minimal acute toxic risk to birds. However, assessments show that exposure to treated seeds through ingestion may result in chronic toxic risk to non-endangered and endangered small birds (e.g., songbirds) and acute/chronic toxicity risk to non-endangered and endangered mammals. Clothianidin has the potential for toxic chronic exposure to honey bees, as well as other nontarget pollinators, through the translocation of clothianidin residues in nectar and pollen..In honey bees, the effects of this toxic chronic exposure may include lethal and/or sub-lethal effects in the larvae and reproductive effects in the queen."


Up until 2 weeks ago I was a bee-keeeper in Ontario. North shore of Lake Ontario.
C.C.D. appears to be the predonminate culprit in the loss of all my colonies.

A thought to ponder for those of you who don't have any exposure to the bee business. But honey prices have been decimated by dumping into the N.A. market mostly from China.
So the other option has been pollination contracts.
The dollars in can not justify the losses. So the problem is going to be bigger than just the current population losses. What incentive do small farmers like myself have to spend the money to re-invest when the losses are ever present?

am A 7th generation beekeeper in California and have been fighting the Government here to ban or at least restrict Imidocloprid since 2003. Last year I lost 800 hives out of 1000 to what I believe is Bayers Neonicatoid insecticide.
I think they are going to find it very difficult to grow food without honeybees.

This is very scary sh*t.......

Everyday lower prices Jen It's the new American way.

Silly Brad.

I realllllly hate any kind of the 'bee' family..

Lightning Bolt wrote:

SMLCHNG wrote: I HATE bees. But understand why they're good for many reasons.

Shun the non-believer..... shuuunnnnnnnnnnnnn

oh, crap... damn that charlie the unicorn

Shhhhhhhhuuuuuuunnnnnn uh

To add insult to injury, hive theft is compounding the problem. Here in the central valley much of our crops are dependent on bee pollination. Due to the overall decrease in numbers of bees, along with the hive thefts, trees aren't getting pollinated and farmers are really going to be taking a hit. Plus with the late season frost that destroyed many crops, and the price increases due to gas prices, expect to see even higher prices in the grocery stores and very limited supply.

East Texas Parrothead wrote:Beekeepers in East Texas have lost about 85% of their hives this year. Last article we did on them, A&M hadn't figured out why they were just disappearing ... they're all stumped.

flipflopgirl wrote:

East Texas Parrothead wrote:Beekeepers in East Texas have lost about 85% of their hives this year. Last article we did on them, A&M hadn't figured out why they were just disappearing ... they're all stumped.

Would this be an inappropriate place to ask if the Aggies have asked for help from UT to solve the problem?

Conolulu wrote:I didn't know some of this... More about Wewa and beekeeping...

Wewahitchka is the site of one of Florida's largest beekeeping operations, the Lanier family, whose three-generation business was the host and consultant for the filming of Ulee's Gold, a movie starring Peter Fonda about a beekeeper whose "gold" is tupelo honey. The Rish family are the oldest known beekeeping family in the area, documenting their claim back to 1880's. Many of the local beekeepers can trace their ancestry to the native American Indians that lived in the area. Mr. Tom Wynn, a Local historian, filmed and produced a DVD documentary called, "Tupelo Honey & The Amazing World of Beekeeping" documenting the processes of harvesting Tupelo Honey as well as recording the local history of Beekeeping in the area. The film features interviews with aged and wise Beekeepers of the swamps as well as an interview with a local Creek Indian Chief.

This premium honey which is extracted and bottled by the Lanier and Rish families and other beekeepers is produced by placing beehive's, known by the beekeepers as "Bee Boxes" on the swamps along the Apalachicola River and other area rivers. In some areas the bees are placed on platforms and rafts to keep them above potential floods. Prior to the tupelo bloom, all earlier season honeys are stripped from the bees to avoid contamination with lesser grades produced earlier. Likewise, as soon as bloom is finished, the honey must be removed quickly before the bees have a chance to add other types of nectar.

Wewahitchka also has an annual two day Tupelo Honey festival in May.

Wewa - the town that makes PC look cosmopolitan