Black National Anthem?

ph4ever · Post by **ph4ever** » July 2, 2008 3:04 pm

I didn't know there was one - why should there be a separate black national anthem? Does anyone else know there's a black national anthem? Am I the only one confused and in the dark?

State of the City Shocker: Controversial National Anthem
Local jazz singer performs different version of song

DENVER (MyFOXColorado.com) - It was a shocker at the annual State of the City address.

Denver's mayor delivered the speech, but it's what happened before he spoke that received all of the attention and has everyone talking Wednesday.

The city asked local jazz singer Rene Marie to sing the Star Spangled Banner before Tuesday’s speech.

But she performed a different version of the national anthem. She took the music from the Star Spangled Banner and sang lyrics from the Black National Anthem instead.

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rednekkPH · Post by **rednekkPH** » July 2, 2008 3:10 pm

"Yo Homie, can you see..."

Skibo · Post by **Skibo** » July 2, 2008 3:10 pm

I knew something existed I thought it came about in the 60's. Turns out it is a lot older...if wiki can be trusted.

From that reliable source wikipedia - "Lift Every Voice and Sing" was first performed in public in Jacksonville, Florida as part of a celebration of Lincoln's Birthday on February 12, 1900 by a choir of 500 schoolchildren at the segregated Stanton School, where James Weldon Johnson was principal.

Singing this song quickly became a way for African Americans to demonstrate their patriotism and hope for the future. In calling for earth and heaven to "ring with the harmonies of Liberty," they could speak out subtly against racism and Jim Crow laws—and especially the huge number of lynchings accompanying the rise of the Ku Klux Klan at the turn of the century. In 1919, the NAACP adopted the song as "The Negro National Anthem." By the 1920s, copies of "Lift Every Voice and Sing" could be found in black churches across the country, often pasted into the hymnals.

Lift ev'ry voice and sing,
'Til earth and heaven ring,
Ring with the harmonies of Liberty;
Let our rejoicing rise
High as the listening skies,
Let it resound loud as the rolling sea.
Sing a song full of the faith that the dark past has taught us,
Sing a song full of the hope that the present has brought us;
Facing the rising sun of our new day begun,
Let us march on 'til victory is won.

Stony the road we trod,
Bitter the chast'ning rod,
Felt in the days when hope unborn had died;
Yet with a steady beat,
Have not our weary feet
Come to the place for which our fathers sighed?
We have come over a way that with tears has been watered,
We have come, treading our path through the blood of the slaughtered,
Out from the gloomy past,
'Til now we stand at last
Where the white gleam of our bright star is cast.

God of our weary years,
God of our silent tears,
Thou who has brought us thus far on the way;
Thou who has by Thy might
Led us into the light,
Keep us forever in the path, we pray.
Lest our feet stray from the places, our God, where we met Thee,
Lest, our hearts drunk with the wine of the world, we forget Thee;
Shadowed beneath Thy hand,
May we forever stand,
True to our God,
True to our native land.

Afternoon Golfer · Post by **Afternoon Golfer** » July 2, 2008 3:15 pm

ph4ever wrote:Am I the only one confused and in the dark?

No pun intended.

chippewa · Post by **chippewa** » July 2, 2008 3:18 pm

Never heard of it, and can't say I find anything offensive in those lyrics. But then again, I don't offend easily. Certainly I'm not "shocked", as the headline says. Sometimes before events like this they'll sing the Star Spangled Banner, sometimes God Bless America and sometimes America the Beautiful. I say put the new one in the rotation.

blackjack · Post by **blackjack** » July 2, 2008 3:27 pm

Wish I were in the Land O' Cotton
Old times there are not forgotten
Look away, look away, look away
Dixieland

SharkOnLand · Post by **SharkOnLand** » July 2, 2008 3:27 pm

I saw the video of this last night, and the mayor didn't look too damn happy.

They asked her to come sing the national anthem, she agreed, then decided to do her own thing.

Hope they didn't pay her.

I have nothing against the so-called "Black National Anthem", but if you're asked to do something and agree to it, you should stay true to your word.

And what the hell is up with her hair?

Skibo · Post by **Skibo** » July 2, 2008 3:34 pm

SharkOnLand wrote:I saw the video of this last night, and the mayor didn't look too damn happy.

They asked her to come sing the national anthem, she agreed, then decided to do her own thing.

Hope they didn't pay her.

I have nothing against the so-called "Black National Anthem", but if you're asked to do something and agree to it, you should stay true to your word.

And what the hell is up with her hair?

She should have informed them that she was going to sing a different song. Perhaps they would have agreed and given her a proper introduction. maybe next week they can invite jimmy and he can sing the parrothead anthem.

blackjack · Post by **blackjack** » July 2, 2008 3:38 pm

Skibo wrote:
SharkOnLand wrote:I saw the video of this last night, and the mayor didn't look too damn happy.

They asked her to come sing the national anthem, she agreed, then decided to do her own thing.

Hope they didn't pay her.

I have nothing against the so-called "Black National Anthem", but if you're asked to do something and agree to it, you should stay true to your word.

And what the hell is up with her hair?
She should have informed them that she was going to sing a different song. Perhaps they would have agreed and given her a proper introduction. maybe next week they can invite jimmy and he can sing the parrothead anthem.

Oh no, not the Yellow album.

pair8head · Post by **pair8head** » July 2, 2008 3:55 pm

blackjack wrote:Wish I were in the Land O' Cotton
Old times there are not forgotten
Look away, look away, look away
Dixieland

Of all the people I would expect to post something like this, your name would have never come up.

flyboy55 · Post by **flyboy55** » July 2, 2008 3:57 pm

blackjack wrote:Wish I were in the Land O' Cotton
Old times there are not forgotten
Look away, look away, look away
Dixieland

I can't believe you haven't already deleted this yourself.

Not funny - not even remotely funny considering this country's history - so don't bother to post again saying that you were kidding and that I don't have a sense of humor . . .

rednekkPH · Post by **rednekkPH** » July 2, 2008 4:18 pm

I sure wish I had nothing else to do besides wander around, looking for things to be offended by.

Maybe I should have become a pilot.

flyboy55 · Post by **flyboy55** » July 2, 2008 4:35 pm

rednekkPH wrote:I sure wish I had nothing else to do besides wander around, looking for things to be offended by.

Maybe I should have become a pilot.

Some days on this forum, you don't have to look very far . . .

As far as becoming a pilot, I've heard it said that everyone, at some point in time, either wants to BE a pilot or MARRY one . . . (I'm already married so you'll have to settle for becoming one yourself

).

blackjack · Post by **blackjack** » July 2, 2008 4:59 pm

flyboy55 wrote:
blackjack wrote:Wish I were in the Land O' Cotton
Old times there are not forgotten
Look away, look away, look away
Dixieland
I can't believe you haven't already deleted this yourself.

Not funny - not even remotely funny considering this country's history - so don't bother to post again saying that you were kidding and that I don't have a sense of humor . . .

Oh I wasn't being funny. Simply fishing for the knee-jerk reaction I knew would come. Maybe we should call it the Caucasian National Anthem and then it would be OK for you.

alphabits · Post by **alphabits** » July 2, 2008 5:21 pm

blackjack wrote:
flyboy55 wrote:
blackjack wrote:Wish I were in the Land O' Cotton
Old times there are not forgotten
Look away, look away, look away
Dixieland
I can't believe you haven't already deleted this yourself.

Not funny - not even remotely funny considering this country's history - so don't bother to post again saying that you were kidding and that I don't have a sense of humor . . .
Oh I wasn't being funny. Simply fishing for the knee-jerk reaction I knew would come. Maybe we should call it the Caucasian National Anthem and then it would be OK for you.

Gee, maybe you could have also posted a picture of some members of the KKK to go along with it.

Sorry dude, I don't get the point you're trying to make. As the "unofficial" anthem of the Confederacy, "Dixie" conjures up images of racism and slavery. It doesn't take any knee-jerk reaction to make that connection.

blackjack · Post by **blackjack** » July 2, 2008 5:36 pm

alphabits wrote:
blackjack wrote:
flyboy55 wrote:
blackjack wrote:Wish I were in the Land O' Cotton
Old times there are not forgotten
Look away, look away, look away
Dixieland
I can't believe you haven't already deleted this yourself.

Not funny - not even remotely funny considering this country's history - so don't bother to post again saying that you were kidding and that I don't have a sense of humor . . .
Oh I wasn't being funny. Simply fishing for the knee-jerk reaction I knew would come. Maybe we should call it the Caucasian National Anthem and then it would be OK for you.
Gee, maybe you could have also posted a picture of some members of the KKK to go along with it.
Sorry dude, I don't get the point you're trying to make. As the "unofficial" anthem of the Confederacy, "Dixie" conjures up images of racism and slavery. It doesn't take any knee-jerk reaction to make that connection.

So the fact that millions of law-abiding Southerners still like this song and consider it the Anthem of the South means nothing? Just because some used it for their cause.

Much like the swastika is actually a Hindu symbol bastardized by the Nazis. Is it not still a symbol for the Hindus.

It's actually you people who are so easily offended that offend me. Make me sick actually.

I suppose you picketed the Dukes of Hazzard too.

Dude.

blackjack · Post by **blackjack** » July 2, 2008 5:47 pm

alphabits wrote:
blackjack wrote:
flyboy55 wrote:
blackjack wrote:Wish I were in the Land O' Cotton
Old times there are not forgotten
Look away, look away, look away
Dixieland
I can't believe you haven't already deleted this yourself.

Not funny - not even remotely funny considering this country's history - so don't bother to post again saying that you were kidding and that I don't have a sense of humor . . .
Oh I wasn't being funny. Simply fishing for the knee-jerk reaction I knew would come. Maybe we should call it the Caucasian National Anthem and then it would be OK for you.
Gee, maybe you could have also posted a picture of some members of the KKK to go along with it.
Sorry dude, I don't get the point you're trying to make. As the "unofficial" anthem of the Confederacy, "Dixie" conjures up images of racism and slavery. It doesn't take any knee-jerk reaction to make that connection.

My alternate answer to you without as much disgust would be:

Was it OK for her to sing her song instead of our National Anthem as requested?

Would it have been OK for a white person to get up and sing "Dixie"?

Instead of celebrating her diversity (ugh!) I am distressed at the decline and lack of National pride. We as a country are becoming weaker and weaker instead of uniting as one. My grandparents came to this country and learned English and how to assimilate. Nowadays, we are bending the country to accomodate instead of immigrants (like my grandparents) bending to assimilate.

How's that, more understandable?

Skibo · Post by **Skibo** » July 2, 2008 6:05 pm

blackjack wrote:blah, blah, blah

When debating race or some other "sensitive" issue it is better to sound logical and informed instead of racist and ignorant.

blackjack · Post by **blackjack** » July 2, 2008 6:35 pm

Skibo wrote:
blackjack wrote:blah, blah, blah
When debating race or some other "sensitive" issue it is better to sound logical and informed instead of racist and ignorant.

Since you addressed neither of my posts in a logical, informed manner, I guess we'll never know.

Show me racism anywhere in my post.

ph4ever · Post by **ph4ever** » July 2, 2008 6:39 pm

blackjack wrote:
alphabits wrote:
blackjack wrote:
flyboy55 wrote:
blackjack wrote:Wish I were in the Land O' Cotton
Old times there are not forgotten
Look away, look away, look away
Dixieland
I can't believe you haven't already deleted this yourself.

Not funny - not even remotely funny considering this country's history - so don't bother to post again saying that you were kidding and that I don't have a sense of humor . . .
Oh I wasn't being funny. Simply fishing for the knee-jerk reaction I knew would come. Maybe we should call it the Caucasian National Anthem and then it would be OK for you.
Gee, maybe you could have also posted a picture of some members of the KKK to go along with it.
Sorry dude, I don't get the point you're trying to make. As the "unofficial" anthem of the Confederacy, "Dixie" conjures up images of racism and slavery. It doesn't take any knee-jerk reaction to make that connection.
My alternate answer to you without as much disgust would be:

Was it OK for her to sing her song instead of our National Anthem as requested?

Would it have been OK for a white person to get up and sing "Dixie"?

Instead of celebrating her diversity (ugh!) I am distressed at the decline and lack of National pride. We as a country are becoming weaker and weaker instead of uniting as one. My grandparents came to this country and learned English and how to assimilate. Nowadays, we are bending the country to accomodate instead of immigrants (like my grandparents) bending to assimilate.

How's that, more understandable?

As a person from the South I personally do not find the song Dixie offensive however I do realize to some it is. To those that want to scream slavery and lynchings all I can do is remind them that whites, Indians and Mexicans were also lynched, although to a lesser degree.

That being said - I'm with you about the lack of National Pride. People need to quit being so pc and be more PATROTIC or get the hell out.

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