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springparrot wrote:Where are all the swimming fans tonight

watching the swimming

springparrot wrote:Where are all the swimming fans tonight

That guy from France did pretty good!!

UpstateNYPH wrote:

drunkpirate66 wrote:

Bob Roberts wrote:What's up with knocking Water Polo? I think it's much more of a sport than synchonized diving.

Who said it is not a sport? Not me . . . I implied that is should not be an Olympic Event. This actually raises an age old question . . .

What qualifies something as an Olympic Sport?

It seems to me if someone petitions for their "sport" or "event" to be part of the Olympics and there is enough interest (like water polo) they will add anything . . . badmitton to me is just ridiculous. Fun to play with cousins at bbq's in the summer . . . not, IMO, Olympic worthy. But I don't think there is a criteria, is there? Someone just has to take the time to state their case for their event . . .

to me the Olympics are basically track and field based . . . however, female gymnastics in the Summer Games and Figure Skating in the Winter Games are the big tv ratings draws. And that really is what it is all about when dealing with a world wide market.

Ohhh you mean Chinese kiddie gymnastics, I got confused for a second.

whichever countries little anorexic (yes, I mean that literally) undereducated girls are flipping around on those bars that people pretend to care about once every four years and then forget about it . . . yes, those.

ph4ever wrote:

springparrot wrote:Where are all the swimming fans tonight

That guy from France did pretty good!!

we now have 30 medals

springparrot wrote:

ph4ever wrote:

springparrot wrote:Where are all the swimming fans tonight

That guy from France did pretty good!!

we now have 30 medals

oh hell I had no idea - I got the stats window open but never looked at it

ph4ever wrote:

springparrot wrote:

ph4ever wrote:

springparrot wrote:Where are all the swimming fans tonight

That guy from France did pretty good!!

we now have 30 medals

oh hell I had no idea - I got the stats window open but never looked at it

that's why I post it

springparrot wrote:

ph4ever wrote:

springparrot wrote:

ph4ever wrote:

springparrot wrote:Where are all the swimming fans tonight

That guy from France did pretty good!!

we now have 30 medals

oh hell I had no idea - I got the stats window open but never looked at it

that's why I post it

THANK YOU!!! What would I do without you? (((((Molly)))))

buffettbride wrote:

ejr wrote:

Brown Eyed Girl wrote:

ph4ever wrote:I'd be willing to bet that their looks are because of delayed puberity. Think about it ladies, we all know that all kinds of things can affect the mensus cycle. These girls, training since 3 - they are probably given diets to supress their growth - to keep them small.

Anyway that's my theory

I don't necessarily disagree, but I think it is also in conjunction with being younger than they say. Heck, one only needs to look at our past Olympic teams to know that we did the same growth stunting to our girls. You can keep them smaller in stature, but faces and mannerisms will still mature. I look at Deng Linlin and the way she stands and walks looks just like my niece...that of a little girl. And look how her teammates treat her...they all mother her. That was another big giveaway for me.

I am with you on this. I have a hard time watching gymnastics because of all of this. And then there is the hypocrisy of Bela Karoly who really was a master at all that is being criticized, and who thinks there should be no age restriction whatsoever.

Does Bela do anything anymore besides spout at the mouth? Seems like he leaves the coaching up to Marta--or am I mistaken?

I was speaking primarily of his past work. But if Marta is coaching (and they have used his facilities), how "out of the picture" is he?

ejr wrote:

buffettbride wrote:

ejr wrote:

Brown Eyed Girl wrote:

ph4ever wrote:I'd be willing to bet that their looks are because of delayed puberity. Think about it ladies, we all know that all kinds of things can affect the mensus cycle. These girls, training since 3 - they are probably given diets to supress their growth - to keep them small.

Anyway that's my theory

I don't necessarily disagree, but I think it is also in conjunction with being younger than they say. Heck, one only needs to look at our past Olympic teams to know that we did the same growth stunting to our girls. You can keep them smaller in stature, but faces and mannerisms will still mature. I look at Deng Linlin and the way she stands and walks looks just like my niece...that of a little girl. And look how her teammates treat her...they all mother her. That was another big giveaway for me.

I am with you on this. I have a hard time watching gymnastics because of all of this. And then there is the hypocrisy of Bela Karoly who really was a master at all that is being criticized, and who thinks there should be no age restriction whatsoever.

Does Bela do anything anymore besides spout at the mouth? Seems like he leaves the coaching up to Marta--or am I mistaken?

I was speaking primarily of his past work. But if Marta is coaching (and they have used his facilities), how "out of the picture" is he?

Marta has been the head coach for awhile---she has always been the best coach of the 2, but Bela was always the MOUTH

ph4ever wrote:

springparrot wrote:Where are all the swimming fans tonight

That guy from France did pretty good!!

You mean the French guy that stuck his foot n his mouth about smashing the Americans in 4 X 100 relay?

ejr wrote:

buffettbride wrote:

ejr wrote:

Brown Eyed Girl wrote:

ph4ever wrote:I'd be willing to bet that their looks are because of delayed puberity. Think about it ladies, we all know that all kinds of things can affect the mensus cycle. These girls, training since 3 - they are probably given diets to supress their growth - to keep them small.

Anyway that's my theory

I don't necessarily disagree, but I think it is also in conjunction with being younger than they say. Heck, one only needs to look at our past Olympic teams to know that we did the same growth stunting to our girls. You can keep them smaller in stature, but faces and mannerisms will still mature. I look at Deng Linlin and the way she stands and walks looks just like my niece...that of a little girl. And look how her teammates treat her...they all mother her. That was another big giveaway for me.

I am with you on this. I have a hard time watching gymnastics because of all of this. And then there is the hypocrisy of Bela Karoly who really was a master at all that is being criticized, and who thinks there should be no age restriction whatsoever.

Does Bela do anything anymore besides spout at the mouth? Seems like he leaves the coaching up to Marta--or am I mistaken?

I was speaking primarily of his past work. But if Marta is coaching (and they have used his facilities), how "out of the picture" is he?

Bela gave credit to the Chineese even if as he states they are not 16. His criticsm is that the rules are being broken as they are written. He is against age limits, but since they are in they should be enforced. At least that is my understanding from watching the coverage.

diverg wrote:

ejr wrote:

buffettbride wrote:

ejr wrote:

Brown Eyed Girl wrote:

ph4ever wrote:I'd be willing to bet that their looks are because of delayed puberity. Think about it ladies, we all know that all kinds of things can affect the mensus cycle. These girls, training since 3 - they are probably given diets to supress their growth - to keep them small.

Anyway that's my theory

I don't necessarily disagree, but I think it is also in conjunction with being younger than they say. Heck, one only needs to look at our past Olympic teams to know that we did the same growth stunting to our girls. You can keep them smaller in stature, but faces and mannerisms will still mature. I look at Deng Linlin and the way she stands and walks looks just like my niece...that of a little girl. And look how her teammates treat her...they all mother her. That was another big giveaway for me.

I am with you on this. I have a hard time watching gymnastics because of all of this. And then there is the hypocrisy of Bela Karoly who really was a master at all that is being criticized, and who thinks there should be no age restriction whatsoever.

Does Bela do anything anymore besides spout at the mouth? Seems like he leaves the coaching up to Marta--or am I mistaken?

I was speaking primarily of his past work. But if Marta is coaching (and they have used his facilities), how "out of the picture" is he?

Bela gave credit to the Chineese even if as he states they are not 16. His criticsm is that the rules are being broken as they are written. He is against age limits, but since they are in they should be enforced. At least that is my understanding from watching the coverage.

Yes, that is true. But when we hear the talk about how hard the Chinese gymnasts are pushed, one only needs to look back at Bela's history and reputation to see how he pushed and pushed.

Here is one Chicago columnist's take on the Chinese gymnasts, and Karolyi:

http://www.suntimes.com/sports/couch/11 ... 13.article

drunkpirate66 wrote:

Bob Roberts wrote:What's up with knocking Water Polo? I think it's much more of a sport than synchonized diving.

Who said it is not a sport? Not me . . . I implied that is should not be an Olympic Event. This actually raises an age old question . . .

What qualifies something as an Olympic Sport?

It seems to me if someone petitions for their "sport" or "event" to be part of the Olympics and there is enough interest (like water polo) they will add anything . . . badmitton to me is just ridiculous. Fun to play with cousins at bbq's in the summer . . . not, IMO, Olympic worthy. But I don't think there is a criteria, is there? Someone just has to take the time to state their case for their event . . .

to me the Olympics are basically track and field based . . . however, female gymnastics in the Summer Games and Figure Skating in the Winter Games are the big tv ratings draws. And that really is what it is all about when dealing with a world wide market.

What precisely is it about water polo that you think it should NOT be an olympic sport? Men's water polo has a long tradition in the Olympics (among the first sports added to the modern day Olympics - in 1900! And yes, I looked it up for the exact date, even though I was well schooled in the history), but it was until Sydney that Women's water polo had enough international support to become an Olympic event - it was a hard fought battle, since many countries out there don't think women should be playing such a rough sport. As far as I know - the sport needs an International Federation that governs the rules and maintains the integrity of the sport, the sport has to comply with anti-doping laws (random drug testing, etc), and a certain number of countries on multiple continents have to have participants (in the Federation), the sport has to have a way of measuring success (best time, most points, etc), and most of all, the sport has to require some sort of athletic ability. The Olympic Committee has multiple criteria that they use to help decide, and while a fair bit of it is lobbying, etc, it's not all that for sure - international support and interest is important (and required).

As I mentioned before, Women's water polo was long not allowed because there were enough countries in the world who wouldn't support women playing a rough and unladylike sport.

Have you ever played water polo? It's as rough as rugby, fast as swimming sprints, physical as basketball and there is no pool bottom to touch or pads to hide behind. I'd invite you to play before you say that it doesn't deserve to be an Olympic event.

As for badminton, it is more popular in other parts of the world than maybe it is here, and hey, to each their own. I don't think if you're just playing at a summer BBQ that you would last very long in the trials to get to the Olympics.........

[off soapbox]

carry on......

comtnfish wrote:

drunkpirate66 wrote:

Bob Roberts wrote:What's up with knocking Water Polo? I think it's much more of a sport than synchonized diving.

Who said it is not a sport? Not me . . . I implied that is should not be an Olympic Event. This actually raises an age old question . . .

What qualifies something as an Olympic Sport?

It seems to me if someone petitions for their "sport" or "event" to be part of the Olympics and there is enough interest (like water polo) they will add anything . . . badmitton to me is just ridiculous. Fun to play with cousins at bbq's in the summer . . . not, IMO, Olympic worthy. But I don't think there is a criteria, is there? Someone just has to take the time to state their case for their event . . .

to me the Olympics are basically track and field based . . . however, female gymnastics in the Summer Games and Figure Skating in the Winter Games are the big tv ratings draws. And that really is what it is all about when dealing with a world wide market.

What precisely is it about water polo that you think it should NOT be an olympic sport? Men's water polo has a long tradition in the Olympics (among the first sports added to the modern day Olympics - in 1900! And yes, I looked it up for the exact date, even though I was well schooled in the history), but it was until Sydney that Women's water polo had enough international support to become an Olympic event - it was a hard fought battle, since many countries out there don't think women should be playing such a rough sport. As far as I know - the sport needs an International Federation that governs the rules and maintains the integrity of the sport, the sport has to comply with anti-doping laws (random drug testing, etc), and a certain number of countries on multiple continents have to have participants (in the Federation), the sport has to have a way of measuring success (best time, most points, etc), and most of all, the sport has to require some sort of athletic ability. The Olympic Committee has multiple criteria that they use to help decide, and while a fair bit of it is lobbying, etc, it's not all that for sure - international support and interest is important (and required).

As I mentioned before, Women's water polo was long not allowed because there were enough countries in the world who wouldn't support women playing a rough and unladylike sport.

Have you ever played water polo? It's as rough as rugby, fast as swimming sprints, physical as basketball and there is no pool bottom to touch or pads to hide behind. I'd invite you to play before you say that it doesn't deserve to be an Olympic event.

As for badminton, it is more popular in other parts of the world than maybe it is here, and hey, to each their own. I don't think if you're just playing at a summer BBQ that you would last very long in the trials to get to the Olympics.........

[off soapbox]

carry on......

Good post. Although badminton......

I heard that during the 2012 Vancouver games the Candians have petitioned for beer drinking to be included as an Olympic sport.....I'm training hard to make the team

Badminton played on a water polo pitch....


that would be something :D:D:D

Jmmy Might not come to Boise.. But the Gold will!!!


http://www.idahostatesman.com/newsupdat ... 69592.html

C-Dawg wrote:I heard that during the 2012 Vancouver games the Candians have petitioned for beer drinking to be included as an Olympic sport.....I'm training hard to make the team

The only other true competitors.. The Irish, the Germans, and the Japanese.

RinglingRingling wrote:

C-Dawg wrote:I heard that during the 2012 Vancouver games the Candians have petitioned for beer drinking to be included as an Olympic sport.....I'm training hard to make the team

The only other true competitors.. The Irish, the Germans, and the Japanese.

And Critterville Cove residents?

You know, with time and practice, I think this Phelps kid could become a pretty decent swimmer someday.