McCain's VP Is Rumored To Be ...

[LIPH]

While serving in both his Illinois State Senate and the U.S. Senate, he has been a upper-tier legislator since '97... not a small-town City Councilmember and Mayor.

While serving as a state legislator, Obama voted "present" more than 100 times. Politicians vote "present" when they don't want to take a stand on an issue and have it come back to haunt them later. A couple of weeks ago when that California minister interviewed Obama and Mccain, Obama answered one question by saying "that's above my pay grade." I'm sorry, when you're running for President, nothing is above your pay grade.

[Lightning Bolt]

oh great, she's clearly an Alaskan elitist

..oh yeah, and I'll bet she didn't inhale either...
she obviously never wrapped her "barracuda" lips around a righteous doob of Northern Lights.

Come on city boy! How can you throw rocks at a lady that hunts, fishes, parties and keeps in great shape! Oh, and she did break up the big oil corruption thingy and prossecute the bastards too. That is SO HOT!!!

And then there's this too:

Former state Rep. Ray Metcalfe, a Democrat who was an early whistleblower in an FBI investigation that unearthed waves of corruption in Alaska politics, said his party will have a tough time finding ways to criticize Palin.

No worries, TR... just havin' fun at happy hour.
She's got some commendable fetes... and seems affable enough.
Her selection is just a little to nuanced, her résumé far too light... the pick is too gimicky

I can see an argument can be made for your statement about Palin. So can you tell me how Obama's record is heavier then hers?

While serving in both his Illinois State Senate and the U.S. Senate, he has been a upper-tier legislator since '97... not a small-town City Councilmember and Mayor.
Palin's rise has been best described as meteoric, but she beat out a corrupt, bloated 20-year veteran party opponent, too.

No, Obama is not mega-deep in national exposure.... but, HE has won over the voters. He has made the speeches, and he has created his loyal following.
He put himself on the radar with his keynote address during the LAST Democratic Convention. That's where I first heard him...
In the most hotly contested primaries in many o year, Obama earned his victories with grass-roots hard work.
He beat out the presumptive heir to the nomination.

Over the course of the past 19 months, the voters across America have brought Obama to this point. John McCain INTRODUCED most all of us in America to Gov. Palin barely 12 hours ago!

Upper teir US Senator? I don't think so.

fine. you figure it out then.
Now y'all have a nice Labor Day weekend.
I've got a Chargers game to watch...

[diverg]

Hey Larry what does the tshirt in your avatar say?

[diverg]

I've got a Chargers game to watch...

The Chargers? They s*ck!! Just messing with you Enjoy the game.

[Skibo]

While serving in both his Illinois State Senate and the U.S. Senate, he has been a upper-tier legislator since '97... not a small-town City Councilmember and Mayor.

Obama's record in both the state senate and US senate are quite uneventful. In the state he avoided many controversial issues by voting present. In the US senate, nothing he has sponsored has made it out of the senate very little even made it out of committee. He is an excellent speaker and quite the community activist, but not much of a legislator.

[rumdrinks]

(DISCLAIMER) THIS IS MEANT TO BE HUMOROUS NOT A PERSONAL ATTACK.

Just watching video of McCain introducing Palin on CNN and it just looks like she running for president of her school PTA not VP of the US. She looks like any one of 10 million moms at a school function.

AGAIN, this is meant as a humorous observation.

[sonofabeach]

(DISCLAIMER) THIS IS MEANT TO BE HUMOROUS NOT A PERSONAL ATTACK.

Just watching video of McCain introducing Palin on CNN and it just looks like she running for president of her school PTA not VP of the US. She looks like any one of 10 million moms at a school function.

AGAIN, this is meant as a humorous observation.

I've seen those moms at my son's school. They're called MILFs

[SMLCHNG]

Obama's slogan is "Change"

McCain chooses a VP that is a total change of the political norm.

Hmmmmm.....

[diverg]

Obama's slogan is "Change"

McCain chooses a VP that is a total change of the political norm.

Hmmmmm.....

Didn't Obama change Denver for 4 days?

[SMLCHNG]

Obama's slogan is "Change"

McCain chooses a VP that is a total change of the political norm.

Hmmmmm.....

Didn't Obama change Denver for 4 days?

Well the media, Hollywood stars, Secret Service, and others sure did.

[ragtopW]

He has made the speeches, and he has created his loyal following.

Given that logic.. Jim Jones For president!!!!!!!!!!

[BFinnsUp]

While serving in both his Illinois State Senate and the U.S. Senate, he has been a upper-tier legislator since '97... not a small-town City Councilmember and Mayor.

While serving as a state legislator, Obama voted "present" more than 100 times. Politicians vote "present" when they don't want to take a stand on an issue and have it come back to haunt them later. A couple of weeks ago when that California minister interviewed Obama and Mccain, Obama answered one question by saying "that's above my pay grade." I'm sorry, when you're running for President, nothing is above your pay grade.

That was a dumb answer. So was McCain's when asked how many houses he owns. I admire these people for having the courage to run for President, I don't think the perks come even close to the costs of the job. However, why can't we get really good, highly qualified people to run? Say Jack Welch, Erik Schmidt or Colin Powel?

[BFinnsUp]

(DISCLAIMER) THIS IS MEANT TO BE HUMOROUS NOT A PERSONAL ATTACK.

Just watching video of McCain introducing Palin on CNN and it just looks like she running for president of her school PTA not VP of the US. She looks like any one of 10 million moms at a school function.

AGAIN, this is meant as a humorous observation.

I've seen those moms at my son's school. They're called MILFs

Agreed!

[BFinnsUp]

What has McCain run or done to prove himself?

CAPTAIN, UNITED STATES NAVY

Prisoner of War. Refused early out-of-sequence repatriation. Tortured for refusing.

United States Senator, 22 years

Unites States Congressman, 4 years

I agree that these are admirable traits and experiences, however what of them qualifies him to be chief executive? He has run very little in his life, not that Obama has.

[SMLCHNG]

That was a dumb answer. So was McCain's when asked how many houses he owns. I admire these people for having the courage to run for President, I don't think the perks come even close to the costs of the job. However, why can't we get really good, highly qualified people to run? Say Jack Welch, Erik Schmidt or Colin Powel?

I'd say it was a good answer, but that's just MY opinion. McCain doesn't LIVE in the houses he (or rather, his wife) may own. And many folks in this country strive to have the "American Dream" of financial stability, yet when someone achieves it, they are often condemned.

There's a lot of controversy in Jack Welch's history......... and oh, he would be a 'change'..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Welch

And I don't think Colin Powell wants anything to do with Washington politics.

[BFinnsUp]

That was a dumb answer. So was McCain's when asked how many houses he owns. I admire these people for having the courage to run for President, I don't think the perks come even close to the costs of the job. However, why can't we get really good, highly qualified people to run? Say Jack Welch, Erik Schmidt or Colin Powel?

I'd say it was a good answer, but that's just MY opinion. McCain doesn't LIVE in the houses he (or rather, his wife) may own. And many folks in this country strive to have the "American Dream" of financial stability, yet when someone achieves it, they are often condemned.

There's a lot of controversy in Jack Welch's history......... and oh, he would be a 'change'..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Welch

And I don't think Colin Powell wants anything to do with Washington politics.

I never said Jack would be change, but he has a lot of experience running an large organizaton successfully. Your right, Colin doesn't want anything to do with Washington.

I agree that there is nothing wrong with owning multiple homes, wouldn't mind getting to that point myself one day. However the answer was not a good one for a presidential candidate in a time when people are losing thier homes left and right. He should be trying to make people feel like he understands their situation and the answer did not do it. It is similar to when George HW Bush was criticized for not knowing about upc scanners at grocery stores. None of us really want our President going to the store to pick up bread and milk, but he answer made him seem out of touch.

[popcornjack]

Now that this "politics" thing has gotten everyone's interest up, anyone want to talk about religion?

No. I don't discuss either with friends/family/strangers/anyone. The only opinion that matters to me is my own.

Was only kidding

..just saw a bizarre film called Hamlet 2, and it has some bizarre religious irreverance

"Rock Me, Sexy Jesus"

I so want to see that!!!!

[SchoolGirlHeart]

What has McCain run or done to prove himself?

CAPTAIN, UNITED STATES NAVY

Prisoner of War. Refused early out-of-sequence repatriation. Tortured for refusing.

United States Senator, 22 years

Unites States Congressman, 4 years

I agree that these are admirable traits and experiences, however what of them qualifies him to be chief executive? He has run very little in his life, not that Obama has.

You don't get to be a Navy Captain until you have shown proven leadership abilities. To say he has run little shows a vast lack of understanding of the responsibilities held by officers in the U.S. military...

While not exactly the same, I like John Glenn's response to Howard Metzenbaum, when Metzenbaum questioned Glenn's qualifications for the Senate by saying he'd never held a job.

"I served 23 years in the United States Marine Corps. I served through two wars. I flew 149 missions. My plane was hit by antiaircraft fire on 12 different occasions. I was in the Space Program. It wasn't my checkbook, Howard; it was my Life on the line. It was not a nine to five job, where I took time off to take the daily cash receipts to the bank. I ask you to go with me .... as I went the other day... to a Veterans Hospital and look those men - with their mangled bodies - in the eye, and tell THEM they didn't hold a job!

You go with me to the Space Program at NASA and go, as I have gone, to the widows and orphans of Ed White, Gus Grissom and Roger Chaffee...and you look those kids in the eye and tell them that their DADS didn't hold a job.

You go with me on Memorial Day and you stand in Arlington National Cemetery, where I have more friends buried than I'd like to remember, and you watch those waving flags. You stand there, and you think about this Nation, and you tell ME that those people didn't have a job?

I'll tell you, Howard Metzenbaum, you should be on your knees every day of your life thanking God that there were some men - SOME MEN - who held a REAL job. And they required a dedication to a purpose - and a love of country and a dedication to duty - that was more important than life itself. And their self-sacrifice is what made this country possible.

A senior officer in the United States Military has most certainly run plenty.

Beyond that, 22 years in the Senate is a pretty big qualifier.....

[Glorfindel7]

Two observations....

I just don't think Obama has enough experience to be a President and his voting record leads me to believe that he's not going to change all that much...

John McCains pick reminds me of Mondale/Ferraro which didn't work all that well either..... She's got a little political baggage that may come back to haunt him... if his political baggage doesn't already do the trick

So really this is a DIYD DIYD election IMHO

[SchoolGirlHeart]

Ugh, I should stay out of these threads. They totally p*ss me off..... I don't care who you like or don't like, and I'm not even saying I like either candidate, but to look at McCain's background and say he doesn't have the experience to be POTUS is plain BS. McCain had been in the Navy for 10 years and was sitting in a POW camp when Obama was in grade school. Literally. McCain may or may not be the better candidate, but he most certainly has the experience in leadership and government to be POTUS..... The voter's decision rests, IMO, with whether or not you like his platform and position on the issues, not whether he has the experience for the job.

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