Game OFFICIALLY OVER for McCain and Palin!

MileHighPirate · Post by **MileHighPirate** » October 3, 2008 12:18 am

CONGRATS PRESIDENT OBAMA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YwEMxYggoKQ

TheSecretsInTheCrust · Post by **TheSecretsInTheCrust** » October 3, 2008 3:14 am

Personally. I will vote the other way.

C-Dawg · Post by **C-Dawg** » October 3, 2008 6:44 am

TheSecretsInTheCrust wrote:Personally. I will vote the other way.

me too....Obama is an empty suit who talks a good game but has never taken a stand on a major issue in his young career....who says he's for change but then picks a Washington insider who's family is full of lobbyists....oops, former lobbyists, as they resigned once Biden accepted the VP invite.

McCain OTOH (or McSame as he was called in the original post) has a history of change...so much that he hasn't been liked in his own party for crossing lines or straying from the Republican stance. He has been respected on both sides of the aisle to the point and was asked to be John Kerry's running mate four years ago on the Democratic ticket. Sadly now that he is running against a suit with a (D) after his name, the Dems have taken the low road in the campaign and rather than debating on issues, keep repeating the same BS " We want change, McCain is just like Bush"

Obama is going to win this election, as I feel the anchor of being in the same party as Bush is too much for any Republican to overcome.
It's going to take a lot of margaritas to put up with 4 years of Obama, and probably making them with cheap tequila after he gets done taxing the sh!t out of the country to pay for his trillion dollar spending spree. We should all start hoarding tequila now while we can still afford it.

ScarletB · Post by **ScarletB** » October 3, 2008 7:48 am

http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/i ... _john.html

I was curious and this site seems to give equal time to truth stretching on both sides. So FWIW.....

ScarletB · Post by **ScarletB** » October 3, 2008 8:10 am

C-Dawg wrote:
TheSecretsInTheCrust wrote:Personally. I will vote the other way.
me too....Obama is an empty suit who talks a good game but has never taken a stand on a major issue in his young career....who says he's for change but then picks a Washington insider who's family is full of lobbyists....oops, former lobbyists, as they resigned once Biden accepted the VP invite.

McCain OTOH (or McSame as he was called in the original post) has a history of change...so much that he hasn't been liked in his own party for crossing lines or straying from the Republican stance. He has been respected on both sides of the aisle to the point and was asked to be John Kerry's running mate four years ago on the Democratic ticket. Sadly now that he is running against a suit with a (D) after his name, the Dems have taken the low road in the campaign and rather than debating on issues, keep repeating the same BS " We want change, McCain is just like Bush"

Obama is going to win this election, as I feel the anchor of being in the same party as Bush is too much for any Republican to overcome.
It's going to take a lot of margaritas to put up with 4 years of Obama, and probably making them with cheap tequila after he gets done taxing the sh!t out of the country to pay for his trillion dollar spending spree. We should all start hoarding tequila now while we can still afford it.

One more from fact check

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008 ... tions.html

And if you want to talk spending sprees, ummmm Iraq??? Someplace we didn't need to be fighting a war that never had an objective chasing down people that we knew to be elsewhere?
Actually no matter who we end up with, there's no way there won't be tax pain for all of us since we are SO far in the hole already.

HockeyParrotHead · Post by **HockeyParrotHead** » October 3, 2008 8:13 am

Still haven't seen anything that makes me want to vote to increase my taxes.

RinglingRingling · Post by **RinglingRingling** » October 3, 2008 8:16 am

HockeyParrotHead wrote:Still haven't seen anything that makes me want to vote to increase my taxes.

well, you can either spend it now, or your kids and grandkids can spend it, with compounded interest.

ScarletB · Post by **ScarletB** » October 3, 2008 9:03 am

HockeyParrotHead wrote:Still haven't seen anything that makes me want to vote to increase my taxes.

You must make good money then, that's good! Actually some years I make enough to be included in the increases that Obama proposes - I just think putting money into our ever deteriorating infrastructure and other programs will benefit our country more than fighting in that morass in Iraq. Rebuilding roads and bridges that are in desperate need of it will at least create jobs.

But, having said all that, we are so far in the hole right now that it almost doesn't matter, the money has to come from somewhere and that would be all of us.

C-Dawg · Post by **C-Dawg** » October 3, 2008 9:04 am

ScarletB wrote:
C-Dawg wrote:
TheSecretsInTheCrust wrote:Personally. I will vote the other way.
me too....Obama is an empty suit who talks a good game but has never taken a stand on a major issue in his young career....who says he's for change but then picks a Washington insider who's family is full of lobbyists....oops, former lobbyists, as they resigned once Biden accepted the VP invite.

McCain OTOH (or McSame as he was called in the original post) has a history of change...so much that he hasn't been liked in his own party for crossing lines or straying from the Republican stance. He has been respected on both sides of the aisle to the point and was asked to be John Kerry's running mate four years ago on the Democratic ticket. Sadly now that he is running against a suit with a (D) after his name, the Dems have taken the low road in the campaign and rather than debating on issues, keep repeating the same BS " We want change, McCain is just like Bush"

Obama is going to win this election, as I feel the anchor of being in the same party as Bush is too much for any Republican to overcome.
It's going to take a lot of margaritas to put up with 4 years of Obama, and probably making them with cheap tequila after he gets done taxing the sh!t out of the country to pay for his trillion dollar spending spree. We should all start hoarding tequila now while we can still afford it.

One more from fact check

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008 ... tions.html

And if you want to talk spending sprees, ummmm Iraq??? Someplace we didn't need to be fighting a war that never had an objective chasing down people that we knew to be elsewhere?
Actually no matter who we end up with, there's no way there won't be tax pain for all of us since we are SO far in the hole already.

Pam, why are you changing the subject by bringing up Bush?? He's not running for office? I was talking McCain vs Obama....but if you want to bring up the past, you can say Clinton has as much to do with the financial mess we're in as Bush has. If Clinton had taken out Bin Laden one of the three times he had the chance back in the 90's, the series of events afterwards wouldn't have happened and we probably wouldn't be waging a war in the Middle East, and wouldn't have spent the billions we have. Sadly, after his huge fiasco in Somalia, he didn't have the b@lls to do the job.
As far as the FactCheck article, I have that site bookmarked and go there daily

But I've lived thru too many tax and spend Democratic presidencies to believe Obama. I hope you're right and I'm wrong about him.

ScarletB · Post by **ScarletB** » October 3, 2008 9:18 am

C-Dawg wrote:
ScarletB wrote:
C-Dawg wrote:
TheSecretsInTheCrust wrote:Personally. I will vote the other way.
me too....Obama is an empty suit who talks a good game but has never taken a stand on a major issue in his young career....who says he's for change but then picks a Washington insider who's family is full of lobbyists....oops, former lobbyists, as they resigned once Biden accepted the VP invite.

McCain OTOH (or McSame as he was called in the original post) has a history of change...so much that he hasn't been liked in his own party for crossing lines or straying from the Republican stance. He has been respected on both sides of the aisle to the point and was asked to be John Kerry's running mate four years ago on the Democratic ticket. Sadly now that he is running against a suit with a (D) after his name, the Dems have taken the low road in the campaign and rather than debating on issues, keep repeating the same BS " We want change, McCain is just like Bush"

Obama is going to win this election, as I feel the anchor of being in the same party as Bush is too much for any Republican to overcome.
It's going to take a lot of margaritas to put up with 4 years of Obama, and probably making them with cheap tequila after he gets done taxing the sh!t out of the country to pay for his trillion dollar spending spree. We should all start hoarding tequila now while we can still afford it.

One more from fact check

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008 ... tions.html

And if you want to talk spending sprees, ummmm Iraq??? Someplace we didn't need to be fighting a war that never had an objective chasing down people that we knew to be elsewhere?
Actually no matter who we end up with, there's no way there won't be tax pain for all of us since we are SO far in the hole already.
Pam, why are you changing the subject by bringing up Bush?? He's not running for office? I was talking McCain vs Obama....but if you want to bring up the past, you can say Clinton has as much to do with the financial mess we're in as Bush has. If Clinton had taken out Bin Laden one of the three times he had the chance back in the 90's, the series of events afterwards wouldn't have happened and we probably wouldn't be waging a war in the Middle East, and wouldn't have spent the billions we have. Sadly, after his huge fiasco in Somalia, he didn't have the b@lls to do the job.

I wasn't bringing up Bush per se, I was pointing out that Iraq has been a huge spending spree sponsored by the current administration - I was addressing the spending spree comment, nothing else. Spending is not something that only Democrats do. Though,I realize lots of spineless Democrats voted for this as well. And there were no terrorists or WMD's or anything else in Iraq that we had to go after because of 9/11, just a very bad man, but not someone who posed us personal , immediate danger. I had no issues with spending whatever it took to go into Afghanistan/Pakistan wherever once we knew that Bin Laden and his minions were there, but there is no linkage (to use a Bush Sr term) to Iraq and what happened on 9/11. Everyone admits that now, even people who voted for it.

The other point I was trying to make with the link is that the scary "Obama will raise taxes on your family savings, people making $42,000 a year etc" is a falsehood. Not to say that HIS campaign hasn't stretched some truths either. That's why Factcheck is a cool site, it calls everyone out.

I'm sorry if I gave the impression that I was changing the subject, it's early, I'm probably not saying things the best way.

SchoolGirlHeart · Post by **SchoolGirlHeart** » October 3, 2008 9:20 am

Can we leave the 2nd grade name-calling out or is that asking too much of educated people...?

They deserve respect as candidates for the highest and second-highest offices in our government, even when you don't agree with them.

blackjack · Post by **blackjack** » October 3, 2008 9:23 am

Here's an interesting post I found:

Dear Friends,

The next few months are going to be politically intriguing ones for us all. It is natural that we will all have our opinions and wish to express them. During all of this, the mods hope to keep this board civil and friendly. So please know that we will not be tolerating anything but civil behavior. Any post with name calling, the use of profanity (even if it is typed using symbols), or post where it is perceived that the person is "yelling" (using all caps has long been known to portray "yelling or shouting" on the internet), will be subject to deleting. Let 's play nice and enjoy what makes our country unique and special - the ability to debate freely, and the ability to take part in the voting process.

Thank you

The mods....

drunkpirate66 · Post by **drunkpirate66** » October 3, 2008 9:26 am

Ohio.

Thats all that matters.

Unless 18 - 24 year olds and more African Americans actually go out and vote then . . .

Ohio.

Thats all that matters.

47 - 50 have been decided. And the other 2 don't matter.

Ohio.

All that matters.

Its a mantra . . . . say it aloud 50 times. Because for all this talk

Ohio

Its all that matters.

Skibo · Post by **Skibo** » October 3, 2008 9:46 am

Obama has been putting on some really good ads in the Philly market. Not the typical mud-slinging. I think they have been more effective than McCains "fear the evil liberal" ads. I still wouldn't vote for the evil liberal because I do not believe in the liberal agenda and no I won't vote for the mud-slinging flip flopper either.

LIPH · Post by **LIPH** » October 3, 2008 9:50 am

I hate to sound like a broken record, but in a nation of 300 million people are these 2 really the best we can come up with?

spartan1979 · Post by **spartan1979** » October 3, 2008 9:55 am

How to explain Sarah Palin:

While suturing a cut on the hand of a 75-year old Texas rancher whose hand was caught in a gate while working cattle, the doctor struck up a conversation with the old man.

Eventually the topic got around to Sarah Palin and her bid to be a heartbeat away from being President.

The old rancher said, "Well, ya know, Palin is a post turtle."

Not being familiar with the term, the doctor asked him what a post turtle was.

The old rancher said, "When you're driving down a country road and you come across a fence post with a turtle balanced on top, that's a post turtle."

The old rancher saw a puzzled look on the doctor's face, so he continued to explain.

"You know she didn't get up there by herself, she doesn't belong up there, she doesn't know what to do while she is up there, and you just wonder what kind of dumb ass put her up there to begin with."

flyboy55 · Post by **flyboy55** » October 3, 2008 9:56 am

LIPH wrote:I hate to sound like a broken record, but in a nation of 300 million people are these 2 really the best we can come up with?

No. McCain and Palin are not the best we can come up with.

That's why you should vote Democrat.

LIPH · Post by **LIPH** » October 3, 2008 10:00 am

flyboy55 wrote:
LIPH wrote:I hate to sound like a broken record, but in a nation of 300 million people are these 2 really the best we can come up with?
No. McCain and Palin are not the best we can come up with.

That's why you should vote Democrat.

Let me rephrase the question - are these 4 really the best we can come up with?

Lightning Bolt · Post by **Lightning Bolt** » October 3, 2008 10:03 am

LIPH wrote:I hate to sound like a broken record, but in a nation of 300 million people are these 2 really the best we can come up with?

skip... skip... skip....

We have to stop pondering things that were decided months ago... and live in the NOW!

flyboy55 · Post by **flyboy55** » October 3, 2008 10:06 am

C-Dawg wrote:
TheSecretsInTheCrust wrote:Personally. I will vote the other way.
me too....Obama is an empty suit who talks a good game but has never taken a stand on a major issue in his young career....who says he's for change but then picks a Washington insider who's family is full of lobbyists....oops, former lobbyists, as they resigned once Biden accepted the VP invite.

McCain OTOH (or McSame as he was called in the original post) has a history of change...so much that he hasn't been liked in his own party for crossing lines or straying from the Republican stance. He has been respected on both sides of the aisle to the point and was asked to be John Kerry's running mate four years ago on the Democratic ticket. Sadly now that he is running against a suit with a (D) after his name, the Dems have taken the low road in the campaign and rather than debating on issues, keep repeating the same BS " We want change, McCain is just like Bush"

Obama is going to win this election, as I feel the anchor of being in the same party as Bush is too much for any Republican to overcome.
It's going to take a lot of margaritas to put up with 4 years of Obama, and probably making them with cheap tequila after he gets done taxing the sh!t out of the country to pay for his trillion dollar spending spree. We should all start hoarding tequila now while we can still afford it.

Those evil, nasty, dirty Dems!

Let not facts nor history interfere with a good story line.

There are many folks in this country who are fully deserving of the mess we are in. They put that shmegegi in the Oval Office. They can't admit they were wrong. They are bankrupting this nation and have the audacity to blame it on the Democrats. If they can get their way in the upcoming election, we all get to 'enjoy' more of the same.

No thanks.