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Posted: October 17, 2008 1:53 pm
by Martonian
McCain and Obama were both hilarious last night at the Al Smith Dinner:
Watch speeches here -
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/1 ... 35455.html
Both of them were really funny.
Posted: October 17, 2008 2:02 pm
by Wino you know
big john wrote:Wino you know wrote:Jeez, we now know more about Joe the plumber than the terrorists who attacked us in 2001.
WHAT a f'ing country.

God bless the "fair and UN-balanced" media.

Joe isn't trying to hide.
He shouldn't HAVE to.
Damn, I wonder what the media a-holes could dig up on ME if I told them what I thought of Obama and his flunkies.
One of my favorite bumper stickers EVER I saw is the one that shows a hangman's noose with the caption
ROPE,
TREE,
JOURNALIST.
Some assembly required.

Posted: October 17, 2008 2:10 pm
by ph4ever
Wino you know wrote:buffettbride wrote:I didn't even like that it was changed from the original title.
Besides, won't it be poetic justice if McCain pulls off a miracle and wins?
Then the 'Pubbies can rub it in real good.

It would take MORE than a miracle for McCain to win at this point, and even if it DID happen, I'd never "rub it in," but I would sit back and listen to the socialist nut jobs p*ss & moan while they all have menstral cycles for the next 4 years. The women too.
Gary - I am not a Republican and I'm by far no McCain fan and I find your comments
HIGHLY offensive. You in essence are insulting ALL of us that don't think like you do.
Posted: October 17, 2008 2:23 pm
by Wino you know
ph4ever wrote:Wino you know wrote:buffettbride wrote:I didn't even like that it was changed from the original title.
Besides, won't it be poetic justice if McCain pulls off a miracle and wins?
Then the 'Pubbies can rub it in real good.

It would take MORE than a miracle for McCain to win at this point, and even if it DID happen, I'd never "rub it in," but I would sit back and listen to the socialist nut jobs p*ss & moan while they all have menstral cycles for the next 4 years. The women too.
Gary - I am not a Republican and I'm by far no McCain fan and I find your comments
HIGHLY offensive. You in essence are insulting ALL of us that don't think like you do.
Sorry.
Don't be insulted. That wasn't my intent.
Just trying to inject a little humor here before I spend the next four years hiding in a tree.
Posted: October 17, 2008 2:32 pm
by ph4ever
Wino you know wrote:ph4ever wrote:Wino you know wrote:buffettbride wrote:I didn't even like that it was changed from the original title.
Besides, won't it be poetic justice if McCain pulls off a miracle and wins?
Then the 'Pubbies can rub it in real good.

It would take MORE than a miracle for McCain to win at this point, and even if it DID happen, I'd never "rub it in," but I would sit back and listen to the socialist nut jobs p*ss & moan while they all have menstral cycles for the next 4 years. The women too.
Gary - I am not a Republican and I'm by far no McCain fan and I find your comments
HIGHLY offensive. You in essence are insulting ALL of us that don't think like you do.
Sorry.
Don't be insulted. That wasn't my intent.
Just trying to inject a little humor here before I spend the next four years hiding in a tree.
I don't find being called a socialist funny. In fact I don't find a lot of the insults you've been throwing to be funny. Yeah you have the right to voice your opinion however you have been doing so with little regards towards the feelings of many of us that have considered you a friend. You're mouthing off all kinds insulting things and until now I've overlooked it because of our friendship however I'm really getting sick and tired of my beliefs, my friends and family's beliefs being insulted by you on a freaking daily basis. I find myself wondering how in the hell you can consider me your friend since I'm one of these God awful people you hate so adamantly.
Posted: October 17, 2008 4:34 pm
by TropicalTroubador
Wino you know wrote:big john wrote:Wino you know wrote:Jeez, we now know more about Joe the plumber than the terrorists who attacked us in 2001.
WHAT a f'ing country.

God bless the "fair and UN-balanced" media.

Joe isn't trying to hide.
He shouldn't HAVE to.
Damn, I wonder what the media a-holes could dig up on ME if I told them what I thought of Obama and his flunkies.
One of my favorite bumper stickers EVER I saw is the one that shows a hangman's noose with the caption
ROPE,
TREE,
JOURNALIST.
Some assembly required.

Now *that's* offensive.
It was journalists who exposed the excesses of the House Unamerican Activities Committee under Sen. McCarthy in the 50s, when if your third cousin had ever met a Communist, you were banned from working in places like Hollywood.
It was journalists who exposed the shady dealings of the Republican National Committee and the Nixon administration, both with the Pentagon Papers and with the burglary at the Watergate Hotel.
And it's journalists who might keep *your* ass from being "disappeared" someday if Someone Up There in Washington decides they don't like you and classify you as a "terrorist sympathizer," whether you are or not. Once you've vanished, it doesn't matter whether the allegations are true or not; they'll just waterboard you until you confess.
If what is being discovered about Joe (or whatever his name really is) is the *truth*, then good or bad, let it come out. It's not a "smear" if it really happened that way. What have they got to hide, and why?
Posted: October 17, 2008 4:37 pm
by East Texas Parrothead
Wino you know wrote:Jeez, we now know more about Joe the plumber than the terrorists who attacked us in 2001.
WHAT a f'ing country.

God bless the "fair and UN-balanced" media.

Joe's the one who quit tossing the football and questioned Obama. He opened the can of worms by stepping into the spotlight.
The media might not always be fair and balanced (Fox v. MSNBC), but in this case, they have done us a service.
Thanks to journalists and bloggers, we know now Joe:
1. does not have a plumber's license
2. had not spoken to his employer about buying his business except in his job interview - 4 years ago
3. owes back taxes
4. owes a hospital bill for which they put a lien on his house
and
MIGHT be related to Keating's son-in-law.
Is this really the kind of guy McCain wants to hang his hat on?
All McCain's people would have had to do before they hitched their wagon to his star was to have (1) checked the plumbers' union (2) talked to Joe's boss about the proposed purchase plan and (3) checked the courthouse for liens.
As for the family tree, that might have taken a little digging, but it should be easy enough to run down.
It's not rocket science. It would have taken them about 3 hours. Tops.
Posted: October 17, 2008 4:46 pm
by TropicalTroubador
ph4ever wrote:Wino you know wrote:ph4ever wrote:Wino you know wrote:buffettbride wrote:I didn't even like that it was changed from the original title.
Besides, won't it be poetic justice if McCain pulls off a miracle and wins?
Then the 'Pubbies can rub it in real good.

It would take MORE than a miracle for McCain to win at this point, and even if it DID happen, I'd never "rub it in," but I would sit back and listen to the socialist nut jobs p*ss & moan while they all have menstral cycles for the next 4 years. The women too.
Gary - I am not a Republican and I'm by far no McCain fan and I find your comments
HIGHLY offensive. You in essence are insulting ALL of us that don't think like you do.
Sorry.
Don't be insulted. That wasn't my intent.
Just trying to inject a little humor here before I spend the next four years hiding in a tree.
I don't find being called a socialist funny. In fact I don't find a lot of the insults you've been throwing to be funny. Yeah you have the right to voice your opinion however you have been doing so with little regards towards the feelings of many of us that have considered you a friend. You're mouthing off all kinds insulting things and until now I've overlooked it because of our friendship however I'm really getting sick and tired of my beliefs, my friends and family's beliefs being insulted by you on a freaking daily basis. I find myself wondering how in the hell you can consider me your friend since I'm one of these God awful people you hate so adamantly.
I'm with ph4 on this.
One of the more despicable things that some trolls on the Internet do is hurl blanket insults, and then hide behind "What's the matter? Can't you take a joke?" It's childish cowardice, plain and simple.
And to be frank, I used to think better of you than that, and I would like to do so again sometime. But if the passive-aggressive BS doesn't stop, you're probably going to lose friends *and* have problems with the moderators. You can express your opinions and political slant without insults and slander - I've seen people do it on this very thread.
This is our country, and we've *all* got dogs in this fight, one way or the other. But if we can't dialog and disagree respectfully, we're only one short step from guns and suicide bombers and other stuff that can ruin your entire day.
We have more in common with each other than differences. Let's try to remember that, as this nasty, ugly political season winds down.
Posted: October 17, 2008 4:49 pm
by flyboy55
FunkHouse9 wrote:East Texas Parrothead wrote:Before it's over, Joe's probably going to rue the day he quit tossing the football and walked into the national spotlight.

Yup...
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 03614.html
But the emergence of Joe has allowed the state of Ohio to locate the man it says owes nearly $1,200 in back taxes. His motives for confronting Sen. Barack Obama at a campaign stop in his neighborhood earlier this week are the subject of intense Internet speculation. The city of Toledo is preparing a letter to his employer seeking to determine whether he is violating city codes, and the plumbers union is on his tail.
...
Wurzelbacher also acknowledged to reporters that he did not have a plumber's license but said he did not need one to do residential work with the two-man Newell Heating and Plumbing Co., which does have a license.
David Golis, a manager in Toledo's office of building inspections, said that is incorrect. "We were just discussing that we will send a letter to the owner of Newell reminding him" of the city's requirement that all who do plumbing work be licensed or in apprentice or journeyman programs, Golis said.
It gets better . . .
. . . Wurzelbacher has made [sic] that he is conservative and no fan of Obama -- he told Couric that Obama's answer to his question was a "tap dance" that was "almost as good as Sammy Davis Jr." -- but declined to say who he will be voting for Nov. 4.
I'm going out on a limb here . . . I think Joe will be voting Republican.
But I've got another question that I would like answered:
Are Joe Sixpack, Joe Plumber and Joe Camel related to each other? I mean biologically? Of course, their first names are the same, but also their last names can be extended to refer to body parts: sixpack abs, plumber butt and camel . . .
These are the kinds of questions that keep me up late at night.
Posted: October 17, 2008 4:54 pm
by green1
TropicalTroubador wrote:One of the more despicable things that some trolls on the Internet do is hurl blanket insults, and then hide behind "What's the matter? Can't you take a joke?" It's childish cowardice, plain and simple.
That just makes no sense at all coming from you given some of your past posts. Although I will grant that you never said "What's the matter? Can't you take a joke?"
Posted: October 17, 2008 5:02 pm
by lati2d
TropicalTroubador wrote:Wino you know wrote:big john wrote:Wino you know wrote:Jeez, we now know more about Joe the plumber than the terrorists who attacked us in 2001.
WHAT a f'ing country.

God bless the "fair and UN-balanced" media.

Joe isn't trying to hide.
He shouldn't HAVE to.
Damn, I wonder what the media a-holes could dig up on ME if I told them what I thought of Obama and his flunkies.
One of my favorite bumper stickers EVER I saw is the one that shows a hangman's noose with the caption
ROPE,
TREE,
JOURNALIST.
Some assembly required.

Now *that's* offensive.
It was journalists who exposed the excesses of the House Unamerican Activities Committee under Sen. McCarthy in the 50s, when if your third cousin had ever met a Communist, you were banned from working in places like Hollywood.
It was journalists who exposed the shady dealings of the Republican National Committee and the Nixon administration, both with the Pentagon Papers and with the burglary at the Watergate Hotel.
And it's journalists who might keep *your* ass from being "disappeared" someday if Someone Up There in Washington decides they don't like you and classify you as a "terrorist sympathizer," whether you are or not. Once you've vanished, it doesn't matter whether the allegations are true or not; they'll just waterboard you until you confess.
If what is being discovered about Joe (or whatever his name really is) is the *truth*, then good or bad, let it come out. It's not a "smear" if it really happened that way. What have they got to hide, and why?
Stop blaming the media for a poorly run campaign. And grow up and stop the name calling. Everyone that doesn't agree with you is not a Socialist .
They (we) are every bit as patriotic as you are. Remember - that's what this country stands for - the right to disagree - in fact -the right to dissent.
If you can't have a civil discussion without reverting to hate filled name calling - then the Moderators should consider banning your rants.
That's all I have to say.
Posted: October 17, 2008 5:09 pm
by SharkOnLand
Posted: October 17, 2008 5:17 pm
by SuperTrooper
*sigh* 18 days to go.
Posted: October 17, 2008 5:29 pm
by buffettbride
SuperTrooper wrote:*sigh* 18 days to go.
Lipstick!
Posted: October 17, 2008 5:35 pm
by lati2d
SuperTrooper wrote:*sigh* 18 days to go.
And only 95 days till 1-20-2009.
Now THAT'S something to celebrate!
Posted: October 17, 2008 6:38 pm
by TropicalTroubador
green1 wrote:TropicalTroubador wrote:One of the more despicable things that some trolls on the Internet do is hurl blanket insults, and then hide behind "What's the matter? Can't you take a joke?" It's childish cowardice, plain and simple.
That just makes no sense at all coming from you given some of your past posts. Although I will grant that you never said "What's the matter? Can't you take a joke?"
That usually means that I wasn't joking.
Have you got a beef about something specific, or are you just hoping to obfuscate things by making vague, unanswerable accusations?
If you've got something specific you'd like to discuss nonjudgmentally, in the hopes of gaining perspective and understanding and maybe developing a better connection, write me privately. Like I said, I'm good with discussing differences respectfully.
Otherwise, nice try but No Ceegar. It's 5:00 Friday; time to go somewhere.
Posted: October 17, 2008 7:46 pm
by flyboy55
Wino you know wrote:buffettbride wrote:I didn't even like that it was changed from the original title.
Besides, won't it be poetic justice if McCain pulls off a miracle and wins?
Then the 'Pubbies can rub it in real good.

It would take MORE than a miracle for McCain to win at this point, and even if it DID happen, I'd never "rub it in," but I would sit back and listen to the
socialist nut jobs p*ss & moan while they all have menstral cycles for the next 4 years. The women too.
I consider myself a socialist and to be called such I don't consider an insult. However, 'nut job' is the kind of talk that sends me right around the bend.
Posted: October 17, 2008 7:51 pm
by Spider Johnson
Three videos.
I feel everyone should watch and listen to these. Especially before anyone blames anyone on the current status in America that is effecting the global market or blaming one political party over the other.
They may not change anyone's mind, but at least watch and listen to them.
Be sure to listen to the end of this one. The video runs about 8 minutes.
http://www.youtube.com:80/watch?v=usvG-s_Ssb0
This video runs about 4.5 minutes.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MGT_cSi ... re=related
This one runs almost 4 minutes:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMnSp4qE ... re=related
Posted: October 17, 2008 8:30 pm
by sonofabeach
man I could use a nutjob right now

Posted: October 17, 2008 9:13 pm
by chippewa
Sarah Palin is supposed to be on a SNL skit tomorrow night. Might have to take a 10 minute break from the concert to check that out.